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Wasn't even a penalty on the ice. Even the entire TSN broadcasting crew is saying it isn't a penalty.That's a dirty team there.
Was a clean hitThat's a dirty team there.
Othmann often plays dirty, no doubt, but that wasn't dirty.Wasn't even a penalty on the ice. Even the entire TSN broadcasting crew is saying it isn't a penalty.
Othmann is tough as nails and loves to test the limits, sometimes crosses them but I wouldn't describe him as dirty. If a Petes player is dirty it's Owen Beck. The way he plays (with intent to injure or at the very least risking exactly that a number of times in the playoffs alone) I'm surprised he didn't miss more games due to suspensions.Othmann often plays dirty, no doubt, but that wasn't dirty.
I do not recall Beck attempting to injure numerous times in the playoffs. The slew-foot was text book, but not malicious. The hit on Barkey was fine imo, a cleaner hit than the one made on Spearing that went unpenalized at least.Othmann is tough as nails and loves to test the limits, sometimes crosses them but I wouldn't describe him as dirty. If a Petes player is dirty it's Owen Beck. The way he plays (with intent to injure or at the very least risking exactly that a number of times in the playoffs alone) I'm surprised he didn't miss more games due to suspensions.
Slew foots are always dangerous and should be banned from hockey. Barkey was concussed, missed the remainder of the game and at least one more game after getting an elbow to the head from Beck. The slewfoot was deliberate and the hit was reckless at the very least. The knee on knee may or may not have been an accident but at some point you no longer get the benefit of the doubt.I do not recall Beck attempting to injure numerous times in the playoffs. The slew-foot was text book, but not malicious. The hit on Barkey was fine imo, a cleaner hit than the one made on Spearing that went unpenalized at least.
I did not see the kneeing penalty Beck took vs (Seattle?). Kneeing always sounds bad, but without seeing it I cannot comment.
The Petes did look flat. But let's not get ahead of ourselves with the Page' comment. He is 5'6" player with little effect on any game he plays. Happy for him he can say he scored a goal in the Mem Cup. I certainly can't say that. But let's be realistic.The Petes looked flat. But I was extremely impressed with #14 Page. Not sure why he doesn’t get more ice time? If anything I think we have something to be excited knowing the Petes have great players moving up the ranks next season. Quinton Page is 17 years old and scored in Memorial Cup! Page finished plus 1 in a 10-2 loss while playing a regular shift. I feel every time Page gets an opportunity he plays as good as any of the top guys. The future is still bright for the Petes.
Barkey actually returned to the game Beck hit him in and, exactly like Easton Cowan, missed game 3 with Strep Throat, an illness that was plaguing many different London Knights at the time.Slew foots are always dangerous and should be banned from hockey. Barkey was concussed, missed the remainder of the game and at least one more game after getting an elbow to the head from Beck. The slewfoot was deliberate and the hit was reckless at the very least. The knee on knee may or may not have been an accident but at some point you no longer get the benefit of the doubt.
Anyway, I haven't seen Othmann do any of this. He's constantly trash talking, cross checking and he finishes his checks but I've never seen him do slewfoots or anything like this.
Yep. That's the problem with this tournament. You'll end up having at least 2 League Champions who end up losing their final game of the season.Petes are a team that played with mostly 2 lines and then some for most of playoffs. I dont think they have anything left in the tank. They won ohl because they were not more talented but played better as a team stayed within the sytstem. MEm cup is one game series, other teams deeper, rested more and higher end players. It is what it is.
In the end, there is going to be three losers, and only one champion.
I think Beck may have been a little out control trying to do more than what comes naturally. He is not normally even remotely a dirty player though. I thought the hit on Barkey was fine. Barkey just had to miss a few minutes going through the motions of concussion protocol to not embarrass the refs more than anything imo.Slew foots are always dangerous and should be banned from hockey. Barkey was concussed, missed the remainder of the game and at least one more game after getting an elbow to the head from Beck. The slewfoot was deliberate and the hit was reckless at the very least. The knee on knee may or may not have been an accident but at some point you no longer get the benefit of the doubt.
Anyway, I haven't seen Othmann do any of this. He's constantly trash talking, cross checking and he finishes his checks but I've never seen him do slewfoots or anything like this.
Not sure what you are referring to here. I have seen worse ("dirty") teams in every league.That's a dirty team there.
I have to beg to differ on this. He doesn't play any "dirtier" than every one else. He plays with his emotions on his sleeve. From a 16 year old to now, nothing has changed. Very emotional player which makes him on edge at times. However, this hit was not "dirty" in the least. Unfortunately for Masters he was in a very vulnerable position that he put himself in and was hurt. No fault or dirty play at at.. It was very unfortunate that the player was hurt.Othmann often plays dirty, no doubt, but that wasn't dirty.
Haha. You’re funny. I’m saying the Petes have depth that really hasn’t been used. Page being one of them. I have noticed he’s very effective when he is given opportunity. Not sure what stats you have backing up your comment. Most of Pages goals have been game winning goals which show he’s a clutch player that will be relied on. Let’s not forget players like Avon were considered not effective when they were younger. Page is still only 17. So there’s more up side than down. If it makes you feel good about yourself belittling young players in this league we see what class of person you are. If you aren’t here to see the positives of this team then move along. Lots of older guys finishing their OHL careers at Memorial Cup. Petes have lots of good young players that haven’t been given great opportunities yet which I think as Petes fans we can be excited about for next season. This will be the core leading the way to the next rebuild of another OHL championship!The Petes did look flat. But let's not get ahead of ourselves with the Page' comment. He is 5'6" player with little effect on any game he plays. Happy for him he can say he scored a goal in the Mem Cup. I certainly can't say that. But let's be realistic.
Dirty was the wrong word...he doesn't try to hurt people. I'd say he plays more like a rat a lot of the time (similar to the Tkachuk's).I have to beg to differ on this. He doesn't play any "dirtier" than every one else. He plays with his emotions on his sleeve. From a 16 year old to now, nothing has changed. Very emotional player which makes him on edge at times. However, this hit was not "dirty" in the least. Unfortunately for Masters he was in a very vulnerable position that he put himself in and was hurt. No fault or dirty play at at.. It was very unfortunate that the player was hurt.
It was a clean hit. Peterborough was one the most disciplined teams in the playoffs and did not receive many penalties as a result. That is why they were as successful as they were. However they are also a very physical team and that was also why they won the OHL Championship. Other teams could not compete with their physical game.That's a dirty team there.
Page has very little upside if any and which young guys are you referring to? Petes will be lucky to win 15 games next season let’s be honestHaha. You’re funny. I’m saying the Petes have depth that really hasn’t been used. Page being one of them. I have noticed he’s very effective when he is given opportunity. Not sure what stats you have backing up your comment. Most of Pages goals have been game winning goals which show he’s a clutch player that will be relied on. Let’s not forget players like Avon were considered not effective when they were younger. Page is still only 17. So there’s more up side than down. If it makes you feel good about yourself belittling young players in this league we see what class of person you are. If you aren’t here to see the positives of this team then move along. Lots of older guys finishing their OHL careers at Memorial Cup. Petes have lots of good young players that haven’t been given great opportunities yet which I think as Petes fans we can be excited about for next season. This will be the core leading the way to the next rebuild of another OHL championship!
You’re clearly not a Petes fan so why don’t you take all the negativity somewhere else?Page has very little upside if any and which young guys are you referring to? Petes will be lucky to win 15 games next season let’s be honest
Didn't look that way to me. They were getting ran over everytime they touched the puckIt was a clean hit. Peterborough was one the most disciplined teams in the playoffs and did not receive many penalties as a result. That is why they were as successful as they were. However they are also a very physical team and that was also why they won the OHL Championship. Other teams could not compete with their physical game.
I agree, the little guy works hard, that is a fact. But you asked me to check the stats. I did over two years has played a total of 68 games, 7 goals 1 assist. Hardly a piece of your "core" moving forward. Not to belittle him, maybe more question your judgement in this case.Page has very little upside if any and which young guys are you referring to? Petes will be lucky to win 15 games next season let’s be honest