Peter Holland

[BertCorbeau]

No. If you have an excess of Cs you play them at wing. See team Canada. Wingers never make good centres in an emergency. See Toronto Maple Leafs

I agree

Holland can suddenly replace Kadri now?

I can see the Jeff Carter comparisons to Holland .. Once the Leafs get healthy a top 6 of:

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Holland


Some scoring potential there

 

[mikebel111*]

Holland looks better with Lupul than Kadri has this year. Last year Kadri was magic with Lupul. Maybe this is an audition of who gets this coveted spot on the Leafs longterm.

more like this is an addition for Holland to take bozak's spot


and have a 1 2 punch of kadri and Holland.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

more like this is an addition for Holland to take bozak's spot


and have a 1 2 punch of kadri and Holland.

Or Bolland's. Reality is the better Holland plays, one player will not be in the Leafs longterm plans. Knowing what Nonis and Carlyle value, we are left to speculate who that player will be if and it's still a big if Holland continues his good play.

 

[BiggestLeafsFanEVER*]

Or Bolland's. Reality is the better Holland plays, one player will not be in the Leafs longterm plans.

I wonder a bit about Bolland. I'm guessing he's going to want a raise for next year. He was good for us when he was playing for sure. We're stuck with Bozo for the next few years, we've got Kadri. How much should we offer Bolland?

Anyway, I'm just really happy about Holland. Also I found out my friend's older brother played with him a while ago and sees him in the offseason and apparently he's just a really cool guy.

 

[mikebel111*]

Or Bolland's. Reality is the better Holland plays, one player will not be in the Leafs longterm plans. Knowing what Nonis and Carlyle value, we are left to speculate who that player will be if and it's still a big if Holland continues his good play.

agreed here.

but either way

kadri
Holland
bozak

or

kadri
Holland
bolland


is pretty good.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

I don't think Holland will ever carry a line, but he's someone who can elevate his game with good players.

He will do his role each time out there and finish plays. Very early though, but the potential is there.

 

[mikebel111*]

I wonder a bit about Bolland. I'm guessing he's going to want a raise for next year. He was good for us when he was playing for sure. We're stuck with Bozo for the next few years, we've got Kadri. How much should we offer Bolland?

Anyway, I'm just really happy about Holland. Also I found out my friend's older brother played with him a while ago and sees him in the offseason and apparently he's just a really cool guy.

this will be interesting

rumors indicate maclement and bolland extensions have started. and phaneuf is close as well.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

agreed here.

but either way

kadri
Holland
bozak

or

kadri
Holland
bolland


is pretty good.

Or you forgot:

Bolland
Bozak
Holland(cheaper than Kadri)

 

[mikebel111*]

Or

Bolland
Bozak
Holland(cheaper than Kadri)

who the heck cares if Holland is cheaper?

it looks as if you don't want to pay players that are good.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I wonder a bit about Bolland. I'm guessing he's going to want a raise for next year. He was good for us when he was playing for sure. We're stuck with Bozo for the next few years, we've got Kadri. How much should we offer Bolland?

Anyway, I'm just really happy about Holland. Also I found out my friend's older brother played with him a while ago and sees him in the offseason and apparently he's just a really cool guy.

Bozak and Bolland have played well this year, no one can tell me they have not earned their contracts. None will command what Kadri will in 2 summers. I do know one thing, Nonis will make a fair offer to Bolland, who looked like a core player to us before going down. It depends on Bolland, if he wants to stay a Leaf he will be one. My guess is 4.2 range for 5 years.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

who the heck cares if Holland is cheaper?

it looks as if you don't want to pay players that are good.

Nonis will, Holland playing well will put one of our Centers on the block. Maybe not this year, but eventually. I don't think Nonis is trading any C's after what has happened with our injuries this year.

 

[Crispy Crust]

Or you forgot:

Bolland
Bozak
Holland(cheaper than Kadri)

So we're going to have to get rid of a key core piece because some other stiff on this team is drastically overpaid for the services he provides to this organization? Sweet.

 

[Crispy Crust]

Bozak and Bolland have played well this year, no one can tell me they have not earned their contracts. None will command what Kadri will in 2 summers. I do know one thing, Nonis will make a fair offer to Bolland, who looked like a core player to us before going down. It depends on Bolland, if he wants to stay a Leaf he will be one. My guess is 4.2 range for 5 years.

We're talking Kadri, Bolland, and Bozak. One is a young top 6 C who also happens to be a legit core piece on this team. Neither Bozak or Bolland are top 6 players. Keeping Bolland or Bozak over Kadri would be ridiculous. Of course given Bozak's ridiculous contract, we're most likely stuck with him for the long haul.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I don't think Holland will ever carry a line, but he's someone who can elevate his game with good players.

He will do his role each time out there and finish plays. Very early though, but the potential is there.

I completely agree with this. I'm glad to see Peter is doing well with the Leafs.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

So we're going to have to get rid of a key core piece because some other stiff on this team is drastically overpaid for the services he provides to this organization? Sweet.

I know you cannot fathom the people that run our organization actually value this so called stiff while 5 or 6 posters don't. What exactly has he done this year to not earn 4.2 per. Have you seen Stephen Weiss at 4.9? 11 points in 15 1/2 games at +5 is earning 4.2 per against top defensive pairings.

 

[mikebel111*]

We're talking Kadri, Bolland, and Bozak. One is a young top 6 C who also happens to be a legit core piece on this team. Neither Bozak or Bolland are top 6 players. Keeping Bolland or Bozak over Kadri would be ridiculous. Of course given Bozak's ridiculous contract, we're most likely stuck with him for the long haul.

but but bozak should be kept on this team at all costs

 

[The Winter Soldier]

We're talking Kadri, Bolland, and Bozak. One is a young top 6 C who also happens to be a legit core piece on this team. Neither Bozak or Bolland are top 6 players. Keeping Bolland or Bozak over Kadri would be ridiculous. Of course given Bozak's ridiculous contract, we're most likely stuck with him for the long haul.

It's hard to reason with someone that has so much disdain for a player. 4.2 is 6th currently on the Leafs roster at UFA age. Ridiculous contract?

 

[Warden of the North]

So we're going to have to get rid of a key core piece because some other stiff on this team is drastically overpaid for the services he provides to this organization? Sweet.

Unduly harsh, dont you think?

Hes not drastically overpaid by any scale of measure.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

but but bozak should be kept on this team at all costs

Do you know what Boston did with Tyler Seguin due to the cap? Let me help you open your eyes to the world of the real world of the salary cap. Boston kept Krejci, Bergeron, and Kelly because why? Surely Seguin is more talented then any of them.

 

[Babscocks]

One big game and Hollands a legitimate top 6 centre. Boyd Deveraux must of been a first line sniper after his hatty in the final game a few years ago.

 

[ECanuck]

but but bozak should be kept on this team at all costs

Even trade your 23 year old skilled center. Sure, he has his bad moments but shows a lot of promise too.

Then we will be drooling over the same guy when he is in his prime.

 

[ECanuck]

One big game and Hollands a legitimate top 6 centre. Boyd Deveraux must of been a first line sniper after his hatty in the final game a few years ago.

Imagine if he scored a couple of hat tricks like the bum we want to trade.

 

[Crispy Crust]

Unduly harsh, dont you think?

Hes not drastically overpaid by any scale of measure.

If you believe $4.2M is top 6 money, he is overpaid. He is a 3rd/4th line player who doesn't really bring anything to the table for the exception of faceoffs, and he isn't even remotely great at that either. His contract is not good at all.

 

[Crispy Crust]

Even trade your 23 year old skilled center. Sure, he has his bad moments but shows a lot of promise too.

Then we will be drooling over the same guy when he is in his prime.

Who needs talent when you can pay a premium for intangibles?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

One big game and Hollands a legitimate top 6 centre. Boyd Deveraux must of been a first line sniper after his hatty in the final game a few years ago.

I like this post, true, very true. We can be wishing we don't lose a 2nd rounder for him after the PITT game again.

That's the way it is around here. I hope the chemistry he has with Lupul is real, this will give even more incentive for Kadri to play well. If Bozak and Bolland were playing them too. Competition for jobs is a wonderful thing.