I thought the good teams had depth at the C position? Some people in the Leafs' fanbase are like "zomgz, have 5 players who can play centre? better trade one !!!!111! "
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Why would anyone trade him for a downgrade, and why would any team trade a better player for him?
He'd have to be part of a package deal.
You know some people here loved Ian White (I didn't and many weren't happy about that because well he had such great potential
) and he was part of the Phaneuf deal. Phaneuf was by far the best player in the deal.Circumstance facilitated the Phaneuf deal, and that circumstance was Bouwmeester and the Flames requirement for a good center. Okay so it didn't work out for the Flames as the Leafs got a player who wasn't acquired because of potential, while the Leafs gave up players with potential.
Potential:
latent qualities or abilities that may be developed and lead to future success or usefulness.
"a young broadcaster with great potential"
synonyms: possibilities, potentiality, prospects;
Too bad there is no guarantee in that potential definition.
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If you trade a center for a better center are you making the center position weaker?
5-1+1=?
Why would anyone trade him for a downgrade, and why would any team trade a better player for him?
He'd have to be part of a package deal.
You know some people here loved Ian White (I didn't and many weren't happy about that because well he had such great potential
Circumstance facilitated the Phaneuf deal, and that circumstance was Bouwmeester and the Flames requirement for a good center. Okay so it didn't work out for the Flames as the Leafs got a player who wasn't acquired because of potential, while the Leafs gave up players with potential.
Potential:
latent qualities or abilities that may be developed and lead to future success or usefulness.
"a young broadcaster with great potential"
synonyms: possibilities, potentiality, prospects;
Too bad there is no guarantee in that potential definition.
Well who than. It has to be teows or someone similar
Meaning it wont happen
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If that improves our team, yes. No one is untouchable.
Now can you say, you would trade Kadri if it improves our team too?
I would but only for the players of the calliber that i said
So in reality, not gonna happen
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Obviously, you trade Kadri if it makes the team better (for several years).
Same with Kessel.
I'm not sure if it is lost on some people that the goal is the Cup?
You use fantasy pools when you are more interested in individual success.
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Leafs fans in general fall in love with players, when they should fall in love with winning, and that is usually what is best for the team.
Quote Eakins saying Kadri had a poor attitude. I'll quote him saying that he took criticism really well,
I guess Eakins didn't get the memo about Kadri's bad attitude. Find me a young, offensively gifted player drafted high out of junior and more often than not I'll find you a guy who had his coach read him the riot act about certain things in the pros. Note that these comments were made after Eakins left the organisation.
Question who or what you will, your code of honour means nothing. Like it or not there are always rumblings when there are real problems in a dressing room, especially in a city where media coverage is so pervasive. Given the way this organisation has shipped out players who don't fit the template (Grabovski) or have attitude problems (Versteeg) there is absolutely no shred of evidence for the opinion that they don't like his attitude. He likely wouldn't be here.
If you have any evidence that Kadri had a bad attitude or that anyone in the organisation thought so you would've produced it already.
You won't.
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no not at all. but the fact he's injured means he hasn't played a lot of games this season. so because he wasn't good last season we don't have a full picture of his play yet. that's why i think it would be risky to pay him that much.
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No we fall in love with very good hockey players. We just don't like replacement level stiffs.
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I thought this was going to be a serious discussion.
Toews? Thats not even close. Kadri plus, plus couldn't get you him. I had a feeling Kadri was your favourite player if this is your condition.
We are not on the same page, not every player is expendable to improve our team if this is how you think.
Thats what i am saying. U trade kadri only for those caliber players. So really it wont happen
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Grezky was traded, and Edmonton won the cup.
Seguin was traded, he is a very good player, Boston looks like a favourite again to compete for the cup. There are a lot of examples of teams trading good players because winning trumps favourite players.
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Bottom line is a Kadri or Kessel can be traded if it improves our team. I trust Nonis if this happens.
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Do I have to repeat my post about a very thinly veiled pro-Bozak agenda. What about Bozak gets traded for a dman?
He did say he would move bozak if it improves team but i have a hunch that if he is traded, he would rip the deal to shreds
Yes. Also what team's fans don't fall in love with their best players, it's pretty normal.
If Holland looks like he'll pan out then we should try to dump Bozo the Clown.
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