Rumor: Peter Chiarelli is not done?

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AMDZen

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Anyways the Oilers should make an offer of RNH + Davidson for Barrie + Comeau or Avs 2017 2nd. Sign Barrie for $33-36/6.

First off, you give Oilers84 a tough time on his trade offer (which admittedly was horrendous) but I don't know that this one is much better. If the Avs wanted RNH, maybe - but lets assume they don't since he is so much like both MacK and Duchene and RNH would (IMO only) just be a lesser version of either of them. In which case it would be much more likely we want Draisaitl. Could be why it hasn't happened yet. Chia tried to force RNH for Larsson too and NJ said nope, you want Larsson it costs Hall. We say the same thing, you want Barrie it costs Draisaitl. And if we include a second forward we need one back along with Drai.

Second, if it was only going to cost 5.5 or 6m x 6 for Barrie he would already be signed and we wouldn't be trading him in the first place. If you do get Barrie its 7 million for him, count on that.
 

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Is there a deal to be had around Nurse and Shattenkirk? Maybe Nurse+Yak+pick/prospect

Nope...

Shattenkirk isnt willing to extend with Oilers so the most Edmonton would offer is Yakupov + pick/prospect.

0 chance on Nurse
 

Avs44

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Are the Avs a better team after:

-Trading Landeskog and Zadorov for Fowler and Ritchie
-Moving Duchene to LW full-time
-Trading Barrie for RNH
-Signing Demers

?

DUCHENE ($6M) MACKINNON ($6M) IGINLA ($5.3M)
COMEAU ($2.4M) NUGENT-HOPKINS ($6M) GRIGORENKO ($2.5M)
COLBORNE (2.5M) SODERBERG ($4.75M) RANTANEN (0.9M)
MARTINSEN ($0.6M) MITCHELL ($1.8M) MCLEOD ($1.3M)
GRIMALDI ($0.925M) NANTEL ($0.68M)

BEAUCHEMIN ($4.5M) JOHNSON ($6M)
FOWLER ($4M) DEMERS ($4.5M)
TYUTIN ($2M) WIERCIOCH ($0.8M)
BIGRAS ($0.84M)

VARLAMOV ($5.9M)
SMITH ($0.6M)

Pennies for cap space- okay, $31K to be exact- but the D is a helluva lot of deeper and the centers remain very, very strong.

That Landeskog deal makes me want to scratch my eyes out, what in the hell is that. Dreger said the Avs asked for Lindholm from Anaheim for Landeskog, not Fowler. Including Zadorov is just awful. Also, the Avs aren't getting rid of Pickard, he will be kept, so your roster will be a good 1 million over.
 

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i find the best way to respond to terrible proposals is make an equally bad one

duchene
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mcdavid
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Seachd

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Second, if it was only going to cost 5.5 or 6m x 6 for Barrie he would already be signed and we wouldn't be trading him in the first place. If you do get Barrie its 7 million for him, count on that.

Something tells me that wherever Barrie plays this season, he's not going to be the highest-paid player on the team.
 

ManofSteel55

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We traded Hall. We arent trading away our 1st overall 2 way center in RNH. At 23 he is the most experienced center we have. Draisaitl is 20 and Mc David is 19.

Let the Avs re sign Barrie. We arent paying them premium assets to save them the pain of overpaying the guy.

I actually believe you are incorrect. Nuge is likely available for Barrie. Considering we just traded Hall, I think it is safe to say that the only untouchable forwards we have are McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi and Lucic.
 
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Chia is trying to build a real team, not win HF popularity contests, the Oilers are going to be a good amount better next year
 

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I signed in to tell you how horrible this is. And I'm a wild fan. I can't remember a worse idea on here. The second one sucks too but you overshadowed it. You are the Jim benning of hf
 

heilongjetsfan

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Would the Avs be happy swapping Barrie for a signed Shattenkirk.

Friedman mentioned a 3 way and St Louis GM rumoured to want Eberle. St Louis fanbase wouldn't mind Eberle but would also rather have RNH.

AVS -> Shattenkirk
ST LOUIS -> Eberle
EDMONTON -> Barrie
Rumour is Shatty wants to go to the east coast. How about send him to NYI?
Isles: Shattenkirk
Blues: Eberle
Oil: Hamonic
 

BeastMode97

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Rumour is Shatty wants to go to the east coast. How about send him to NYI?
Isles: Shattenkirk
Blues: Eberle
Oil: Hamonic

Oilers need an offensive Dman like Barrie/Hamilton more than Hamonic. They just got Larsson who seems to be a similar player to Hamonic.
 

heilongjetsfan

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Oilers need an offensive Dman like Barrie/Hamilton more than Hamonic. They just got Larsson who seems to be a similar player to Hamonic.

I'll trust you know the Oilers D better than I do, but aren't Nurse and Klefbom offensive D? Seems like a good mix would be helpful. For example:
Klefbom - Hamonic
Nurse - Larsson

You've got a more offensive defenceman with a big point shot on the left who can join the rush, and on the right, a guy who can suppress shots and cover when the left d gets caught up ice. Seems to me a stay at home defenceman helps the offense by letting offensive defencemen play offence more.
 

PWJunior

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Rumour is Shatty wants to go to the east coast. How about send him to NYI?
Isles: Shattenkirk
Blues: Eberle
Oil: Hamonic

Hamonic isn't going anywhere.

This deal also makes zero sense for the Isles. Why would they take on all the risk with Shattenkirk's impending UFA status?

Enough of this already.
 

voxel

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I'll trust you know the Oilers D better than I do, but aren't Nurse and Klefbom offensive D?

Nurse... not at all. Limited offensive vision in the O-zone. Klefbom is Klingberg-lite though. Big, extremely mobile, and has a booming slapper.

I'd be happy to trade Nurse+ for Barrie.
 

BeastMode97

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I'll trust you know the Oilers D better than I do, but aren't Nurse and Klefbom offensive D? Seems like a good mix would be helpful. For example:
Klefbom - Hamonic
Nurse - Larsson

You've got a more offensive defenceman with a big point shot on the left who can join the rush, and on the right, a guy who can suppress shots and cover when the left d gets caught up ice. Seems to me a stay at home defenceman helps the offense by letting offensive defencemen play offence more.


Klefbom is a stay at home Dman, but when he played last year he did put up respectable numbers offensively, given some good pp time.
Nurse hasn't shown much of anything, but I think after some time in the AHL, he will be a very good offensive Dman, just like in junior.
IMO if Chia can't land Barrie, they should just go forward with what they have now:
Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Fayne
Davidson-Gryba(if he resigns) /Reinhart.

Not the greatest but their defence looked good before Klefbom went down, and adding Larsson can only help.
 

Mighty Makar

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Nurse... not at all. Limited offensive vision in the O-zone. Klefbom is Klingberg-lite though. Big, extremely mobile, and has a booming slapper.

I'd be happy to trade Nurse+ for Barrie.

What's that plus?
 

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