Rumor: Pesce to New Jersey

[dgibb10]

Thats wild - Hamilton is a near ppg defenseman when hes healthy; im sure the idea is to move him toward the end of his deal when Nemec is being paid or soon after

If you try and wait, the value you can get for a 9 mill aging hamilton will unfortunately end up being likely nothing, or even potentially negative.

 

[TBF1972]

Every morning I wake up and look at my poster of Jamie Langenbrunner, just so I can start the morning with fresh hatred.

i hope you don't live above the polar circle or your wait for the next morning needs a lot patience.

 

[Basement Cat]

If you try and wait, the value you can get for a 9 mill aging hamilton will unfortunately end up being likely nothing, or even potentially negative.

That's fine. His value to the Devils outweighs what he would return in a deal right now.

 

[bleedgreen]

If you try and wait, the value you can get for a 9 mill aging hamilton will unfortunately end up being likely nothing, or even potentially negative.

They didn’t sign him to trade him early to get out of the deal asap. He’s clearly a good fit for them and I’m sure they’d prefer to get every good year they can out of him over whatever small value they could get in a trade.

Everyone knows these deals age poorly. They pretty much all go that way. You get the value out of the player as best you can then deal with the consequences. He still has two good years in him easily, and he only has four years left.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Friedman kind of all but confirmed that Pesce will be signing in NJ

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807207879323296213

 

[Bone Density]

6x6?

 

[dez]

No tampering going on at all here /sarcasm. NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce's Agent?

Edited: Obviously every GM is talking with agents without mentioning names, to skirt around the rules, which is why you see deals seconds after July 1. This one is just funny because Pesce to NJ has been rumored for weeks.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

No tampering going on at all here, NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce? Ya ok.

Wait till you see how fast guys sign on Monday and you'll wonder how it happened that quick

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Wait till you see how fast guys sign on Monday and you'll wonder how it happened that quick

Super agents!

 

[Maurice of Orange]

No tampering going on at all here, NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce? Ya ok.

Is Lyubushkin the back up plan if Pesce falls through?

 

[Aoko]

No tampering going on at all here, NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce? Ya ok.

Dougie Hamilton continues to prove to be one of NJ's finest signings... in history.

Oh. I'm sorry... I'm supposed to agree with your delusions of grandeur. Yes. Much tampering. Super wow.

 

[Forge]

No tampering going on at all here, NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce? Ya ok.

It's totes legit. The first time they discuss a contract will be July 1

 

[GhostfaceWu]

If you try and wait, the value you can get for a 9 mill aging hamilton will unfortunately end up being likely nothing, or even potentially negative.

I mean if you're looking to not be in the playoffs for another few seasons go for it. We all saw what happens when you depend on young defenseman did for the devil's playoffs aspirations.

 

[McDuffz88]

No tampering going on at all here, NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce? Ya ok.

It's not tampering if they don't talk to Pesce directly. At the end of the day if Pesce tells his agent he will sign with NJ for whatever contract and that agent contacts NJ saying so, it's not tampering. There's nothing illegal about talking to a players agent. Do you really think NJ is the only team in the league doing this? Every team does it. No one is going to rat each other out because they all do the same thing.

 

[Xirik]

It's not tampering if they don't talk to Pesce directly. At the end of the day if Pesce tells his agent he will sign with NJ for whatever contract and that agent contacts NJ saying so, it's not tampering. There's nothing illegal about talking to a players agent. Do you really think NJ is the only team in the league doing this? Every team does it. No one is going to rat each other out because they all do the same thing.

But the Devils will violate the spirit of the rule and have to give up three 1st round draft picks.

 

[Forge]

But the Devils will violate the spirit of the rule and have to give up three 1st round draft picks.

Pretty sure the NHL just takes those picks from Ottawa now

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Yeah, I swear to god if the Devils are the ones who get dinged for this type of shit like they did for the Kovy contract.......

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

It's not tampering if they don't talk to Pesce directly. At the end of the day if Pesce tells his agent he will sign with NJ for whatever contract and that agent contacts NJ saying so, it's not tampering. There's nothing illegal about talking to a players agent. Do you really think NJ is the only team in the league doing this? Every team does it. No one is going to rat each other out because they all do the same thing.

I honestly don’t understand why this isn’t tampering. “We didn’t talk to the player, just this guy who is contractually obligated to negotiate on his behalf, totally fine.”

 

[McDuffz88]

But the Devils will violate the spirit of the rule and have to give up three 1st round draft picks.

Yeah, I swear to god if the Devils are the ones who get dinged for this type of shit like they did for the Kovy contract.......

I honestly don’t understand why this isn’t tampering. “We didn’t talk to the player, just this guy who is contractually obligated to negotiate on his behalf, totally fine.”

You guys do know that the NHL has allowed a grace period for UFA's to talk to NHL teams before free agency? They just aren't allowed to sign yet. Here's a link to read the rule.

Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) | Puckpedia

Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) UFA's are free to sign with any team, and their previous team receives no compensation. UFA's can begin meeting and interviewing with all teams on the day after the Entry Draft (or June 25 at the latest). They cannot sign contracts with new teams until July 1 at...

puckpedia.com

 

[Legion34]

But the Devils will violate the spirit of the rule and have to give up three 1st round draft picks.

And get them back.

 

[goonybird]

No tampering going on at all here, NJ trades away Marino before even talking to Pesce? Ya ok.

You know they aren't allowed to talk to Pesce?

 

[McDuffz88]

You know they aren't allowed to talk to Pesce?

They are allowed. Did you not read the link I just posted explaining the rules?

 

[MB3]

You know they aren't allowed to talk to Pesce?

confidently incorrect is my favorite type of incorrect

 

[goonybird]

They are allowed. Did you not read the link I just posted explaining the rules?

I don't need to read your posts to ask someone if they know for a fact that the Devils weren't allowed to talk to Pesce

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The interview period was eliminated in 2020.

Unless it’s actively reported, we don’t know if teams give permission to players ahead of time. If Carolina has essentially moved on from Pesce, it seems purposeless not to let him get a head start. It was reported that the Canes did this with Dougie Hamilton in 2021 (Link).