Perron suspended 6 games for crosscheck to the face on Zub - Mod warning Post #590

[HTFN]

At this point I can't spell it out any more for you. Your "tough shit" part is quite literally what I'm talking about, and you seem oblivious to that.

Perhaps you want to discuss every single minor infraction in the NHL, but I'm not interested in that. This was an unfortunate ending to a nothing play. The end/

This is... you proving my point for me. There are plenty of "illegal" net front occurrences, there are very few where both hands come up to head level, and those are the ones that deserve examining for starters.

I took what you said about "happens every game" and applied it to other situations that happen every game but sometimes go wrong and lead to supplemental discipline, like hits in the corners. Isn't that fun?

Imagine thinking you're spelling it out for someone while not getting it...

 

[byrath]

I'd give him 5 for the violence and another 5 for the idiocy

 

[Hobnobs]

Should easily be 3-5 games, if he had a history it would be even longer.

I understand why Perron was heated, but that’s downright unacceptable behavior. Larkin got hurt by a freak accident and Perron went after someone who wasn’t even involved in it.

Punching with both hand to the head is now a "freak accident"?

 

[Kegu]

Punching with both hand to the head is now a "freak accident"?

The freak accident was his face meeting kellys stick on the way down.

 

[Hobnobs]

The freak accident was his face meeting kellys stick on the way down.

That's not a freak accident when you just got punched with two hands to the head. That's intent to injure and Joseph succeeded.

 

[HTFN]

The freak accident was his face meeting kellys stick on the way down.

...on the way down from the preventable action, which was getting a one- or two-hander in the head

That's not a freak accident when you just got punched with two hands to the head. That's intent to injure and Joseph succeeded.

Dial it back, it's still not intent to injure, it's just reckless and stupid

 

[Kegu]

That's not a freak accident when you just got punched with two hands to the head. That's intent to injure and Joseph succeeded.

Is the implication here that Joseph and Kelly colluded to have Joseph shove Larkins head into Kellys stick? It was a roughing penalty with an unfortunate result.

 

[RRhoads]

That's not a freak accident when you just got punched with two hands to the head. That's intent to injure and Joseph succeeded.

He's not saying that Joseph's hit to the head was a freak accident. He's talking about how Larkin head met Kelly's stick on the way down after the hit.

 

[FMichael]

Zero games…Self defense.

 

[Hobnobs]

Is the implication here that Joseph and Kelly colluded to have Joseph shove Larkins head into Kellys stick? It was a roughing penalty with an unfortunate result.

Nice strawman

 

[crashnburnluder]

Same thing Matthews did and Same History, so what ever Matthews got.

so 2

 

[Kegu]

Nice strawman

Not a strawman, was a legitimate question. You said thats intent to injure and that joseph succeeded. If kellys stick doesnt hit him the past might not even get a call, and nobody would have said shit because it really was a nothing burger.
So i ask again how was Joseph intending to injure?

 

[Slimmy]

Unfortunate they got the wrong guy. But, Joseph should have gotten a crosscheck to the chin just like the one he gave Larkin.

Gutless play by Joseph. He needs to answer for it. His teammate did instead. All on him.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Wow, didn't even see that when I saw the Larkin thread earlier. Yes, this is worse than crosscheck on Larkin. Should be 10.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Perron has been a filthy player since the day he entered the league. Can’t wait till he’s done.

 

[Rydan]

This should honestly be in the 15-20 range.

 

[iDangleDangle]

Only thing wrong about the cross-check was the recipient.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Whatever he gets, it should be significantly less than Joseph gets for the crosscheck to the back of Larkin’s neck.

I’d give Perron 2 games, and Joseph 10+.

Proof?

Edit: Illusory truth effect

 

[The Pale King]

I'd be okay with him getting Mcsorely'd off into the sunset for that one.

Cross-checking a guy in the face who's calling for a trainer is an impressive new low for a guy who has made a career out of this kind of thing.

Also watch his wild stick lift attempt near the goalie's head at the start of the clip. That might be part of what gets tempers boiling.

 

[14ari13]

Not the one in OP. Stick and Glove could have hit Larkins head there. Over head angle could determine if it was just Glove or if it stick. The video in OP can’t show that.

Edit: NVm you were right the reverse angle shows clearly it was two gloves to Larkins face which punches him down and into a 3rd glove by #27 that delivers the knock out punch.

Video in OP shows none of that though.

I will have to see it again, but it seems as 2 players hit Larkin.

 

[RRhoads]

Not the one in OP. Stick and Glove could have hit Larkins head there. Over head angle could determine if it was just Glove or if it stick. The video in OP can’t show that.

Edit: NVm you were right the reverse angle shows clearly it was two gloves to Larkins face which punches him down and into a 3rd glove by #27 that delivers the knock out punch.

Video in OP shows none of that though.

Larkin's face is not in the back of his head.

 

[guyzeur]

After seeing the league giving 41 games to Pinto, I expect the same punishment to Kelly, Joseph and Zub.

Larkin's face is not in the back of his head.

You're right, Happy now?

Face or back of the head could have caused the same unfortunate result.

 

[RRhoads]

After seeing the league giving 41 games to Pinto, I expect the same punishment to Kelly, Joseph and Zub.


You're right, Happy now?

Face or back of the head could have caused the same unfortunate result.

Was just correcting that you said "...shows clearly it was two gloves to Larkins face...". No ill intentions on my part.

Would probably have cause the same result. Agree there.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This is going to be a real test for Detroit, are they going to be able to hold it together without Larkin, and presumably Perron? We shall see.

 

[Number8]

Super easy to say that after your third rewatch of the replay.

Using that argument you could do anything at all whenever you want and defend it by saying “Things happen fast out there. Super easy for you to judge me, but I didn't get the benefit of watching 3 slo mo replays”.