Roster Moves: Per Agent, Mason Likely Moving on From Flyers

[bennysflyers16]

If Vegas took Neuvy, wouldn't hate offering Mase 2 yrs up to 10 mill and go with Mase and Stolie. That would be as close as Mase could get to being the undisputed #1 and then see if Stolie or one of the others can take his job in 2 years.

 

[eramosat]

If Vegas took Neuvy, wouldn't hate offering Mase 2 yrs up to 10 mill and go with Mase and Stolie. That would be as close as Mase could get to being the undisputed #1 and then see if Stolie or one of the others can take his job in 2 years.

$5mil * 2 is way more than enough to get him back in this year's as-usual survival-of-the-latest goalie marketplace. Hope he comes back...choices are few for Mase, and I think Philly could do themselves a big favor by sticking with him and building on what they already have re team-work and familiarity, plus his overall solid play.

I think the talk of Mason souring the relationship is way overblown, and ripe for "repair" as this team enters a promising new season.

 

[Rebels57]

No problem giving Mase 10 over 2

 

[Curufinwe]

The goalie market seems really weak, so I don't think that kind of AAV is necessary now.

You apparently can't give Mrzaek away at $4m.

 

[Tripod]

A Greiss like contract is quite possible for any of the starters looking for a home.

 

[The Madrigal]

I don't think it's about money and term with Mason and the Flyers. I think both sides have really soured on each other. When a relationship is broken the other stuff doesn't matter. I could be wrong but that is just the hunch I have. Plus some of the beats have hinted at or even come out and said the same thing on twitter recently.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

we can likely cross Halak off the want list too.
He could of been hand for cheap. Halak is more than likely off the table

 

[Beef Invictus]

I don't think it's about money and term with Mason and the Flyers. I think both sides have really soured on each other. When a relationship is broken the other stuff doesn't matter. I could be wrong but that is just the hunch I have. Plus some of the beats have hinted at or even come out and said the same thing on twitter recently.

The beats are less reliable than crack addicts. They're too lazy to write about actual hockey things so they go the TMZ route.


I would be exceptionally skeptical about anything they have to say about player feelings and relationships. There's a reason so many players over the years regard them with the same level of respect one usually gives a pile of unwanted dogpoo.

 

[Tripod]

I don't see Mason back. He voiced his displeasure over not having distinct goalie roles and coaches usage.

Well we have the same coach and re-signed the other goalie. They are going to move on.

Arizona is a landing spot I could see.

 

[WIP CALLER]

I don't see Mason back. He voiced his displeasure over not having distinct goalie roles and coaches usage.

Well we have the same coach and re-signed the other goalie. They are going to move on.

Arizona is a landing spot I could see.

I overall agree but I could also see both sides putting their differences aside if both the flyers and mason cannot find better situations, which looking at the market, is very possible. i could see mason looking for a team and the flyers looking for a starting goalie at the start of free agency with both circling back and getting something short term done that is in the best interest of both parties.

 

[04' hockey]

with Nuevy staying now the Flyers will move on - just wouldn't work with mason anymore.....too much drama AND mouth

 

[Rebels57]

Trade Neuvirth with one of our 4ths for Mrazek

 

[Tripod]

Trade Neuvirth with one of our 4ths for Mrazek

That would be a quick yes.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

That would be a quick yes.

Very quick yes

 

[The Madrigal]

Too bad it has about almost a zero percent chance of happening.

 

[Rick Deckard]

That removes Arizona, one less landing spot for Mason ... this is Biron all over again

 

[Curufinwe]

That removes Arizona, one less landing spot for Mason ... this is Biron all over again

Who could have seen that one coming?

 

[Tripod]

I don't see Mason back. He voiced his displeasure over not having distinct goalie roles and coaches usage.

Well we have the same coach and re-signed the other goalie. They are going to move on.

Arizona is a landing spot I could see.

You dumb *******....you know nothing about hockey.

 

[The Burdened]

With Calgary & Arizona out, I think that leaves us, Winnipeg, and Vancouver.
It's not too late to come back, Mase.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Whatever gets Mason back here, I don't care

 

[Johnk0728]

This is brilliant, since NHL GM's never make mistakes, especially not early in July.

Its called Market value. You get paid based on your past play and projection of future play. Mason wants a long term deal; I can't see an NHL team offering that to him at age 29 coming off a mediocre year. Some teams will just pass succinctly as they don't want him. I think he comes back to Philly on a 2 year deal. And I am ok with it...he is as good a bridge goalie that you can get now. We will find out soon enough... Hextall appears to be playing this on his terms or bust.

 

[Beef Invictus]

At first I didn't think Mason's agent would let him get Bironed, but a couple weeks later it's looking more likely.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Dear Mase's agent,,,

"7 Little chipmunks twirling on a branch, eating lots of seeds on my uncle ranch"

You know the old wives tale of the sea,,,

"Step into my office, Why ?

CAUSE YOUR ****ING FIRED !!!

 

[Hurricane28]

Just give him 2 years 8-10 million total. No way Winnipeg/anyone else offers him that

 

[dookie88]

Its called Market value. You get paid based on your past play and projection of future play.

Market value is defined by supply and demand.
Just because the market value of water in most regions of the world is low (because of the high supply) does not mean water has a very high actual value (as in being vital to all life).
So the fact that Mason (probably) won't get a big contract does not automatically mean he is a non-valuable asset (as in bad goalie).

Also, players should not get paid based on their past play.
Their past play is one aspect to the projection of their future play, but should not be paid for by a new contract.

Mason wants a long term deal; I can't see an NHL team offering that to him at age 29 coming off a mediocre year.

One mediocre year.
Except for last season - when coached by a coach completely overwhelmed with the duties of handling NHL goalies - he was stellar during his stint with the Flyers.

And this goes back to your point of players being paid for their past play.
It does not make a whole lot of sense to project Mason's future play based on last year, but rather on his last 5 years.
And when you do, the most logical conclusion is that Mason probably is still a pretty good goalie who struggled last year.


But just for the record, the statement you quoted me on was more directed towards your argument that Mason's value / caliber as a player will undoubtedly be perfectly defined by the contract he will sign next.
And that argument is still really stupid.