Salary Cap: Pens Summer Salary Thread: Dull days of August... Oooo! A trade!

[Skidooboy]

Yeah I saw Jesse was talking with someone on Twitter and they asked him if a Rust comparison is appropriate for McGroaty, Jesse said that McGroaty is way more physical and uses his size way more.

I think the only knock on him as a player is his footspeed is pretty meh from what I've read, but he's an incredibly well rounded player beyond that. Seems like a perfect fit to play with Crosby.



He just signed his ELC with the Penguins and he's literally not allowed to play in the NCAA if he's under NHL contract.

never mind . i was confused by the rules around the time lines for Dev camp… which does have a cut off date. my bad.

He signed his ELC today, so I'm guessing he changed his mind to return to NCAA/Michigan
I'm guessing it was directed at Winnipeg telling them he wasn't going to play there

yeah i got muddled with the cutoff dates for Dev camp.

 

[SEALBound]

Man, what a day. Not what I was expecting. I'll be chasing that initial Freidman tweet high for awhile now.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Not that it matters to the Penguins anymore, but I am legitimately curious for how Yager does in the WHL next year with who Moose Jaw is losing to the pros. Firkus (126 points in 63 games), Calvert (95 points in 68 games), Mateychuk (75 points in 52 games as a defenseman) and Savoie (47 points in 23 games) are all graduating from the WHL, the support around Yager next year is going to be wildly worse than it was last year.

He likely ends up getting traded to a new team with more support later in the year, but I wouldn't be surprised at all for Yager to have a regression on his production just due to the substantially worse team around him.

 

[tom_servo]

Trading a kid for another kid feels weird. But trust me, they adjust rather quickly.

 

[Tom Hanks]

His name is Rutger, I like that he's embracing the villain in him.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Talk about a completely unexpected trade.

I think it's a net positive, though the Penguins have so little talent in their system that it's a shame to lose Yager as a 1-for-1.

That said, McGroarty could realistically open the season with the Pens, whereas Yager probably needed to have an absolutely phenomenal camp and was more likely headed back to juniors.

Also, I echo what someone else said -- something seemed weird about the Yager/Pens relationship. I wasn't concerned, but he took a really long time to sign his ELC. The fact that Brunicke signed before Yager is just weird.

 

[vikingGoalie]

not sure what to think. so hard to tell with prospects but another bunting kinda player should be good for us. though i was looking forward to seeing what yager might bring us. but meh...

too bad we couldn't have traded them Jarry for him (I know I know Helle is there and not practical for them) i just kinda wish Jarry would just get traded period, even if it's just a bag of pucks we will be better by subtraction when he's gone

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Trading a kid for another kid feels weird. But trust me, they adjust rather quickly.

You know, they get over it. Kids are resilient like that.

 

[Tom Hanks]

You know, they get over it. Kids are resilient like that.

But also….

https://www.reddit.com/r/KidsAref***ingStupid/s/ukFwfklQgZ

 

[Jacob]

McGroarty reminds me of Boldy. Maybe more pass-first.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

So what is the purpose of this trade for us? Is McGroarty a significantly better prospect? Or are we just aiming for a more NHL-ready player who plays a different style?

 

[Jacob]

So what is the purpose of this trade for us? Is McGroarty a significantly better prospect? Or are we just aiming for a more NHL-ready player who plays a different style?

He’s slightly better and slightly closer to the NHL.

 

[Gurglesons]

McGroarty reminds me of Boldy. Maybe more pass-first.

McGroarty plays much bigger than Boldy.

Kid could be a legit power forward for us.

McGroarty reminds me of Boldy. Maybe more pass-first.

McGroarty plays much bigger than Boldy.

Kid could be a legit power forward for us.

 

[SEALBound]

Overall, it was a minor opportunity to better the team now and in the future. It gave us a much better 1LW prospect to boot.

There are zero downsides to this trade as is.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I'm mostly over the shock of losing Yager. Give me another day and it will pass. Yager was almost certainly not making the squad this season, and McGroaty more than likely is, so good God do we have logjam of forwards on our hands.

Even if Nieto, Acciari, Eller all magically disappear, they all don't fit.

McGroarty Sid Rust
Bunting Malkin Rakell
DOC Glass Hayes
Beauvillier Lizotte Puljujarvi
Poulin Ponomarev Puustinen
Nieto Eller Acciari

Cut 4 guys. Koivunen and Gruden can straight forget about it.

 

[Turin]

Pretty sure Dubas did this to f*** with Randy’s poll

Pretty crazy looking at the Pens prospect pool now compared to February.

 

[Jacob]

McGroarty plays much bigger than Boldy.

Kid could be a legit power forward for us.



McGroarty plays much bigger than Boldy.

Kid could be a legit power forward for us.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

View attachment 902617

I feel like he needs to clarify himself a bit.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Overall, it was a minor opportunity to better the team now and in the future. It gave us a much better 1LW prospect to boot.

There are zero downsides to this trade as is.

Yager being a legit top prospect had me fantasizing about him leading the first line post Sid retirement. It's gonna take me a few to get over that picture I had in my head and get on board with this move, but the logic of the move is sound.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Sam Poulin;

 

[eXile3]

I’m pumped for this. Haven’t been this excited since the EK trade.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

kind of a comp for McGroarty (IMO and in play style only. NOT saying he will reach same level) is a more physical/dogged Guentzel

Like super efficient with touches and clinical around the paint. Gets himself into good areas to feed/shoot but not necessarily going to carry the puck, drive entries, exits.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

I have some bad news for ya buddy

Maybe it's me, you don't know for sure!

Note: it is NOT me.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Agreed but I think we can say that for just about anyone making sub-$1mil. He's a 30-35pt per 82 player based on stats last year. I am really rooting for him to break out this year but from what I saw in his game, I have doubts. The harsher reality is that there are dozens of 30pt players in the league that will play for sub-$1mil. I think Puustinen will be a fine stop-gap middle-6 winger for us until some of our other younger guys come up - Yager, Pono, Koivunene, Howe, etc. I'm not saying his fate is sealed but I'm suggesting that he is more Simon than Rust/Sheary/Jake.

It's the same thing we've heard and seen play out: "We need to start accruing draft picks and young players for when the core retires. Until then, we will add sensibly priced players to help us be as competitive as we reasonably can be. If we make the playoffs, great. If we don't, oh well but we're not going to go out and buy a playoff slot that might hurt us more in the future"

That has been the directive for awhile. That's the direction that Dubas has taken the team in. The "there is no plan" gang is willfully ignorant at this point.

I don't understand how you can call DOC a 3rd liner at best but then turn around and say Puustinen is "very valuable". I mean, that is in STARK contrast to what we saw play out last year.

Puus is a chameleon that elevates with better players. He's actually really good along the boards and has the smarts to play with elite players.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Wow... just seeing this now. Confused. What does it all mean?