Salary Cap: Pens Salary Thread: Pens Ownership "Dubas... that Coca-Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some waiver players in there."

[Lustaf]

Canucks, Canes explored Elias Pettersson talks.

Wonder if there is any package that Dubas could put together to try for that. Guentzel extended would have to be part of it, and then the Pens would have to add.

Not a chance, even with JR gunslinging

 

[Malkinstheman]

Dont think Ive seen them mentioned but maybe the Avs could be a suitor for Guentzel? Their LW depth is abysmal and they are in win-now mode. They dont have any good nhl-ready players so it would have to be futures heavy. Ritchie and Gulyayev seem like good prospects.

 

[The Old Master]

Dont think Ive seen them mentioned but maybe the Avs could be a suitor for Guentzel? Their LW depth is abysmal and they are in win-now mode. They dont have any good nhl-ready players so it would have to be futures heavy. Ritchie and Gulyayev seem like good prospects.

bidding war.....get that price up.

 

[66-30-33]

Dubas was able to get the 15th overall + Hallander from JR for Kapanen. Hopefully he can rob Jimmy again.

If he wants to make a huge offer...1st in 2025, 2nd, Lekk, Hoglander, Mikheyev for Jake at 3M and Canucks re-sign him asap. We accept this offer JR.

 

[Pens1566]

We can retain on him to a different team that retains on him to Vegas,

Nope. He cannot go back to Vegas with retention AT ALL for 1yr from the time he was dealt.

Yes, almost positive he can't be reacquired by Vegas with retention. From anyone.

This ^

 

[Extra Texture]

Dont think Ive seen them mentioned but maybe the Avs could be a suitor for Guentzel? Their LW depth is abysmal and they are in win-now mode. They dont have any good nhl-ready players so it would have to be futures heavy. Ritchie and Gulyayev seem like good prospects.

I’d love to see him end up there, plus he is a Nebraska boy and he’d probably want to sign with them, but looking at their cap I don’t think there is any chance they could sign him after this year, unless Landeskog’s career is totally cooked.

 

[SomeDude]

I’d love to see him end up there, plus he is a Nebraska boy and he’d probably want to sign with them, but looking at their cap I don’t think there is any chance they could sign him after this year, unless Landeskog’s career is totally cooked.

Narrator: “Landeskog’s career was, indeed, totally cooked”

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Jake gets you a king's ransom, especially if the Canucks go on a little cold streak and JR gets antsy. Can probably get some insane package from Vancouver if a bidding war starts--JR always gets his guy, regardless of price.

Petts probably brings back some silly shit too, relative to the player. I think you can definitely shop the goalies and weigh your options. Ship Smith and Rakell out. Apologize to Sid and say "Sorry bud, gave it a shot." EK's an off-season deal imo.

And of course, nuke the coaching staff from orbit and continue revamping the scouting depts.

 

[displacedpensfan]

I do have to admire Dubas's skill in putting together a whole roster where not a single player has the balls to crash the net. All they want to do is lazily pass it around the perimeter and score pretty goals. Even the various plugs he brought in are incredibly soft. For as much as everyone is bitching about Sullivan, this is totally on Dubas too.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Roenick has no sources but I'll take any hopium I can get. Get this bum out of here.

 

[Ryder71]

Dont think Ive seen them mentioned but maybe the Avs could be a suitor for Guentzel? Their LW depth is abysmal and they are in win-now mode. They dont have any good nhl-ready players so it would have to be futures heavy. Ritchie and Gulyayev seem like good prospects.

Not keen on dealing with Sakic TBH. Have better options elsewhere most likely.

 

[66-30-33]

That would be hilarious if Pens traded Jake for Petts and Petts re-signed and Jake came back here.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Literally all it would take to bring the end of Sullivan's coaching job here is for Sid to, even mildly, suggest that he doesn't think the system/coach is working or whatever. As soon as Sid's sick of something, it changes.

 

[Zbynek]

1 week away from the trade deadline already, wow. Dubas, can you please pick a lane and fully commit?

Roenick has no sources but I'll take any hopium I can get. Get this bum out of here.

TBH I trust Roenick more than Seravelli/Friedman at this point

 

[Honour Over Glory]

"It's a lot more than you think it is," Guentzel told The Athletic's Rob Rossi. "It's moving everything. You're changing your whole lifestyle. You're meeting a bunch of new people, and if you've got a family ... it's just a lot.

"Then you've got to go play hockey, right? There's a different system, different guys to learn how to play with, where to go eat. It just seems like a lot of organizations are different in every aspect. How teams travel is different. You've got to get new gear - like, I don't like new gloves. That seems like a small thing, but I really don't like wearing new gloves. So it's something you think about in the back of your mind."

 

[Ulf5]

Jake's gonna give up $1 million per year after taxes over 8-year old gloves isn't he?
He's going to re-sign at a discount and kill the retool.

 

[Headshot77]

I'm sure Dubas is adamant that this team needs to not finish bottom-10. The 1st we give the Sharks for Karlsson needs to happen this year because of we go below bottom-10 then effectively next year we can give them an unprotected 1st in 2025.

With this in mind, I think Dubas will probably sell Guentzel for assets, but not picks. He's gonna want young players who can play now so that this team can at least make a playoff push.

 

[Pancakes]

I'm sure Dubas is adamant that this team needs to not finish bottom-10. The 1st we give the Sharks for Karlsson needs to happen this year because of we go below bottom-10 then effectively next year we can give them an unprotected 1st in 2025.

With this in mind, I think Dubas will probably sell Guentzel for assets, but not picks. He's gonna want young players who can play now so that this team can at least make a playoff push.

The Pens get to choose whether to keep the pick if it's top 10. They don't have to.

That said if this team is bad enough to legitimately get a top 10 pick and they choose to keep it that's a tough conversation for Dubas and the staff to have unless they think they can seriously retool in the off season and prevent a lottery finish next year.

 

[Zbynek]

Canucks, Canes explored Elias Pettersson talks.

Wonder if there is any package that Dubas could put together to try for that. Guentzel extended would have to be part of it, and then the Pens would have to add.

Why in the world would Vancouver trade EP? Even at 12.5 million or whatever. Dude's an absolute stud

 

[HandshakeLine]

It goes a long way towards explaining how stale this team is, that's for sure. Everyone with any pull (except seemingly Malkin, though who knows because nobody ever talks to him) insists on keeping everything exactly as it was 5 years ago, despite the fact that returns are ever diminishing and the playoffs are farther and farther out of reach.

The Pens get to choose whether to keep the pick if it's top 10. They don't have to.

That said if this team is bad enough to legitimately get a top 10 pick and they choose to keep it that's a tough conversation for Dubas and the staff to have unless they think they can seriously retool in the off season and prevent a lottery finish next year.

Worth thinking about the draft too-- is it a deep or another Slafkovsky 1OA type draft?

 

[Ulf5]

Why in the world would Vancouver trade EP? Even at 12.5 million or whatever. Dude's an absolute stud

Because rumors were he was unsure if he'd re-sign in Vancouver. Could be just a negotiation tactic.

 

[Ulf5]

The Pens get to choose whether to keep the pick if it's top 10. They don't have to.

That said if this team is bad enough to legitimately get a top 10 pick and they choose to keep it that's a tough conversation for Dubas and the staff to have unless they think they can seriously retool in the off season and prevent a lottery finish next year.

We currently are in the 10th spot, 1 less point than the Kraken.

 

[Rakell67]

Jake gets you a king's ransom, especially if the Canucks go on a little cold streak and JR gets antsy. Can probably get some insane package from Vancouver if a bidding war starts--JR always gets his guy, regardless of price.

Petts probably brings back some silly shit too, relative to the player. I think you can definitely shop the goalies and weigh your options. Ship Smith and Rakell out. Apologize to Sid and say "Sorry bud, gave it a shot." EK's an off-season deal imo.

And of course, nuke the coaching staff from orbit and continue revamping the scouting depts.

Narrator: “The Canucks did indeed begin their cold streak having lost 2 in a row and only winning 4 of the previous 10 games."

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It goes a long way towards explaining how stale this team is, that's for sure. Everyone with any pull (except seemingly Malkin, though who knows because nobody ever talks to him) insists on keeping everything exactly as it was 5 years ago, despite the fact that returns are ever diminishing and the playoffs are farther and farther out of reach.


Worth thinking about the draft too-- is it a deep or another Slafkovsky 1OA type draft?

I don't think Malkin has much of a say really. Remember he was the last of the trio to be signed and they almost didn't. Letang was done asap, I think when it comes to a say, Sid and Letang are the voices and Geno kind of just seems like if its good with them and they're happy then he's happy even if it f***s him over.

Jake's gonna give up $1 million per year after taxes over 8-year old gloves isn't he?
He's going to re-sign at a discount and kill the retool.

These Canucks reporters are the biggest twats ever, some bloke named Rick is like "Jake is asking for 8-9m and the Canucks are really interested"....you think if Jake just wanted that he wouldn't be signed? All we heard was his camp might be in the 10 million area. Now suddenly it's lower which fits the Canucks cap structure a little better, lol.

This time of the year used to be exciting, but Mike Sullivan has sucked all the fun right out of it.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Kinda buy it from Roenick tbh, definitely connected within USA Hockey. Dude doesn’t give a f*** about the Pens or Sullivan, he’s a pro-players guy.