Salary Cap: Pens Salary Thread: Pens Ownership "Dubas... that Coca-Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some waiver players in there."

[BobRossColton]

I've seen worse ideas. Girard is OK and locked in at 5M until like 2027 while MP will be looking for a large raise. Ned is a FA, looking for a sizable raise himself and probably not worth a ton so the first helps cover the difference in value between MP/Girard though doesn't stretch all the way to also cover the value of Ned who is having a great year... so you'd like to see a little extra.

Like I've said though I just don't have much interest in low end first rounders. Would rather that be one of COL top three prospects. Whoever that might be. In the end I'd pass but it's not some garbo deal.

I don't think gulyayev will be over till 2027, Ritchie might be untouchable for a rental and 1.5 season rental

 

[Malkinstheman]

So Calgary isn't trading Markstrom and Saros has an outrageous price tag...

Dubas isn't going to trade Jarry 6 months into a 5 year deal but Ned could get some decent value potentially. Schmid+2nd from NJ?

 

[Come on]

After next year the contracts of Rust, Karlsson and Geno are easily moveable as the salary is far less than the AAV. Karlsson after next year has less than 14 million for the remaining 2 years which is really cheap. Rust drops as well. Hextall I do think front loaded Rust and Geno and even Letang knowing the core would be done by then. No reason to retain on these.

NTCs

 

[HandshakeLine]

This is shaping up that the team goes on a little heater, Dubas says their deadline addition is Jake back healthy and they still miss playoffs.

it's gonna rule when we miss the playoffs by like 4 points that we could have easily had if we had fixed the damn powerplay.

 

[Empoleon8771]

 

[66-30-33]

Great, now we have to add a 1st for Jake at 50%.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

We don't need that bullshit here. Hope he gets crosschecked in the throat for this.

 

[HandshakeLine]

We don't need that bullshit here. Hope he gets crosschecked in the throat for this.

No having fun, all goals must be a fluke bounce on a misplayed chest snipe to count.

 

[displacedpensfan]

I wonder if Dubas tries to do something very difficult at the trade deadline: Buy AND sell at the same time. Think deals like:

PIT gets: Anthony Duclair, maybe a 6th or 7th
VGK gets: Reilly Smith
SJS gets: Futures

Same concept goes with Ned-we move him out for a piece that improves the top 9, possibly involving a third team. Selling whatever margins we have for error to at least get to the point where we have three functional offensive lines.

Also wouldn't mind having Zucker back, but that's probably a stretch at this point.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

We don't need that bullshit here. Hope he gets crosschecked in the throat for this.

Yeah, he's definitely gotta answer the bell.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I wonder if Dubas tries to do something very difficult at the trade deadline: Buy AND sell at the same time. Think deals like:

PIT gets: Anthony Duclair, maybe a 6th or 7th
VGK gets: Reilly Smith
SJS gets: Futures

Same concept goes with Ned-we move him out for a piece that improves the top 9, possibly involving a third team. Selling whatever margins we have for error to at least get to the point where we have three functional offensive lines.

Also wouldn't mind having Zucker back, but that's probably a stretch at this point.

Duclair sucks

 

[displacedpensfan]

Duclair sucks

a) It's not like Smith has been lighting the hockey world on fire and b) he's on a complete dumpster fire of a Sharks team this year, what do you expect?

 

[Empoleon8771]

a) It's not like Smith has been lighting the hockey world on fire and b) he's on a complete dumpster fire of a Sharks team this year, what do you expect?

Duclair became a shell of what he once was after his knee exploded. I'd much rather take a 2nd for Smith over getting him.

 

[SEALBound]

I wonder if Dubas tries to do something very difficult at the trade deadline: Buy AND sell at the same time. Think deals like:

PIT gets: Anthony Duclair, maybe a 6th or 7th
VGK gets: Reilly Smith
SJS gets: Futures

Same concept goes with Ned-we move him out for a piece that improves the top 9, possibly involving a third team. Selling whatever margins we have for error to at least get to the point where we have three functional offensive lines.

Also wouldn't mind having Zucker back, but that's probably a stretch at this point.

If we are going back to SJS, I would rather get Barabanov. I think he'd be a solid fit on the 3rd line with Bemstrom.

To Pit: 3rd
To VGK: Smith

To SJS: 3rd
To Pit: Barabanov

Part of the value there is ridding ourselves of the $5mil deal next year.

I would also do Smith for Zucker straight up if we end up trading Jake for a nice package.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

We don't need that bullshit here. Hope he gets crosschecked in the throat for this.

Is that not how we do things in Pittsburgh?

 

[SEALBound]

Is that not how we do things in Pittsburgh?

We are FOR a large amount of overpassing for the "pretty goal", NOT "Pretty Goals" that come about as the result of pure individual talent.

Malkin's lucky Therrien didn't launch him into the sun after his "shades of Mario" goal in 2007.

 

[Ryder71]

If we are going back to SJS, I would rather get Barabanov. I think he'd be a solid fit on the 3rd line with Bemstrom.

To Pit: 3rd
To VGK: Smith

To SJS: 3rd
To Pit: Barabanov

Part of the value there is ridding ourselves of the $5mil deal next year.

I would also do Smith for Zucker straight up if we end up trading Jake for a nice package.

Haven't followed Barbanov this season, but wouldn't he command at least a 2hd?

 

[Ulf5]

Future All-Star Harkins.

We could then bitch and moan about the crappy underwhelming returns Dubas got for his assets.

 

[OnMyOwn]

After looking into this kid, I feel like he should be the sticking point for any Jake deal with Van. We need some pure skill in the pipeline.

 

[Ryder71]

After looking into this kid, I feel like he should be the sticking point for any Jake deal with Van. We need some pure skill in the pipeline.

I would be good with Hoglander and a 1st, but LEKK would be preferred. Not sure what we could get in addition to LEKK.

 

[SEALBound]

Haven't followed Barbanov this season, but wouldn't he command at least a 2hd?

Maybe. I put him in the Pierre Engvall or Marcus Johansson level and they each got a third last year.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Every now and then I'm reminded of that crankshaft trade and still throw up a little in my mouth...




I'd retain 50% on Smith for a 1st, considering that's probably going to be the only 1st the Pens will have next year....

No retaining on Smith and his 1 season left. The Pens are already on the hook for Petry & Johnson and 2.4 ish and use up their last retention slot.

 

[SEALBound]

No retaining on Smith and his 1 season left. The Pens are already on the hook for Petry & Johnson and 2.4 ish and use up their last retention slot.

Depends on the return.

Say Vegas wants both Jake and Smith for this year and Smith for next year. Say they offer Brisson, Dorofeyev, 1st, 2nd. I would retain 50% on both as while Smith only has one year left and we'd be on the hook for $2.5mil, we'd have a cheap RFA in Brisson or Doro to counterbalance that. If it gets us extra young assets that we so desperately need, then yes.

Now, Smith @ 50% for a 2nd, probably not.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Depends on the return.

Say Vegas wants both Jake and Smith for this year and Smith for next year. Say they offer Brisson, Dorofeyev, 1st, 2nd. I would retain 50% on both as while Smith only has one year left and we'd be on the hook for $2.5mil, we'd have a cheap RFA in Brisson or Doro to counterbalance that. If it gets us extra young assets that we so desperately need, then yes.

Now, Smith @ 50% for a 2nd, probably not.

You can't do that, they only have one slot left.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Canucks, Canes explored Elias Pettersson talks.

Wonder if there is any package that Dubas could put together to try for that. Guentzel extended would have to be part of it, and then the Pens would have to add.