Salary Cap: Pens Salary Thread: Pens Ownership "Dubas... that Coca-Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some waiver players in there."

[Empoleon8771]

Canucks, Canes explored Elias Pettersson talks.

Wonder if there is any package that Dubas could put together to try for that. Guentzel extended would have to be part of it, and then the Pens would have to add.

Did you read the article? Talks with the Canes got so far that Vancouver had to decide whether to proceed and trade Pettersson or re-sign him. When Pettersson learned he might be shipped to Carolina, he allowed his agent to negotiate and it looks like an extension is happening now.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Did you read the article? Talks with the Canes got so far that Vancouver had to decide whether to proceed and trade Pettersson or re-sign him. When Pettersson learned he might be shipped to Carolina, he allowed his agent to negotiate and it looks like an extension is happening now.

Sure. Things could always change, though. They may be progressing and indeed get something done, but what if they hit a road block?

Plus, fun to fantasize.

 

[SEALBound]

You can't do that, they only have one slot left.

False. We have 1 slot taken up - Petry. You get three total. Jake's would fall off at the end of the year.

 

[Ulf5]

False. We have 1 slot taken up - Petry. You get three total. Jake's would fall off at the end of the year.

Correct, JMFJ is a buyout.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

We don't need that bullshit here. Hope he gets crosschecked in the throat for this.

My God I can picture Sullivan's press conference after that and him being sent down immediately the next day!!

 

[SEALBound]

Correct, JMFJ is a buyout.

Yup

Buyouts of Retained Contracts | Puckpedia.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Yup

Buyouts of Retained Contracts | Puckpedia.

Yeah, I overlooked that.

But the Pens would be still on the hook for 4.9 in dead cap.

 

[66-30-33]

Canucks, Canes explored Elias Pettersson talks.

Wonder if there is any package that Dubas could put together to try for that. Guentzel extended would have to be part of it, and then the Pens would have to add.

Malkin-Petts would be nice and allow Malkin to be an LW but we don't have what they would want for him.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins/latest-news/vancouver-canucks-making-push-pittsburgh-penguins-jake-guentzel

Article says that the price would be 'enormous' and that Vancouver would be willing to pay.

 

[Pens1566]

We can't retain on Smith AND send him back to Vegas.

 

[Josey Wales]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins/latest-news/vancouver-canucks-making-push-pittsburgh-penguins-jake-guentzel

Article says that the price would be 'enormous' and that Vancouver would be willing to pay.

The Hockey News is a Joke ! who is this "Guetnzel "

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'd say it's wild that the Canucks almost dealt Pettersson to the Canes, but JR's a f***ing imbecile so it makes sense. Man, I hope Dubas can fleece that dumbass in a Jake trade.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I'd say it's wild that the Canucks almost dealt Pettersson to the Canes, but JR's a f***ing imbecile so it makes sense. Man, I hope Dubas can fleece that dumbass in a Jake trade.

They didn't almost deal him, from what I heard they have had advanced discussion but this is only and only if EP doesn't sign his contract.

I'm the same way, if a player doesn't sign that contract you're willing to offer I'm not losing this. I know he is an RFA but how bad you want to keep around a guy that doesn't want to be there

 

[66-30-33]

We can't retain on Smith AND send him back to Vegas.

We can retain on him to a different team that retains on him to Vegas,

 

[Empoleon8771]

We can retain on him to a different team that retains on him to Vegas,

I'm pretty sure the NHL would come in to stop that.

 

[66-30-33]

I'm pretty sure the NHL would come in to stop that.

What if we retained 1M on him today or tomorrow to a team that would retain on him at the TDL?

 

[Ulf5]

I'm pretty sure the NHL would come in to stop that.

Yes, almost positive he can't be reacquired by Vegas with retention. From anyone.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Smith can't go back to Vegas with cap retained by any other team until 1yr after he left their roster.

Well then he can stay in Arizona.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

They didn't almost deal him, from what I heard they have had advanced discussion but this is only and only if EP doesn't sign his contract.

I'm the same way, if a player doesn't sign that contract you're willing to offer I'm not losing this. I know he is an RFA but how bad you want to keep around a guy that doesn't want to be there

I mean, having "advanced discussion" about trading a franchise building block that's still only 25 years old is pretty silly. But again, a very JR thing to do.

 

[66-30-33]

Well then he can stay in Arizona.

With all the other university boys!

 

[Honour Over Glory]

With all the other university boys!

I keep forgetting that stupid rule - which I think is idiotic. The Penguins aren't cap circumventing with Smith in that situation and neither would Vegas since they literally tried to make Smith work and it hasn't but it's whatever. Whomever can take Smith, just get the bloke gone. He hasn't been a fit anywhere on this roster, barring dipshit Sullivan's system.

Edit: It is weird though that NHL writers are talking about it and not mentioning that hurdle, which is why I figured it might be the case - Since the Hagelin thing was mostly because JR retained salary and I thought it was only if salary was retained in that deal and then trading for that player back being a no-no. JR retained 250k of Hagelin's salary to make it a wash for Pearson, which made him trying to trade for him back ineligible - but in this case, Reilly Smith didn't have salary retained by VGK.

Should the Penguins and Golden Knights talk about a Reilly Smith trade?

A trade for Smith would inject excitement into the Golden Knights' fanbase — and the locker room.

theathletic.com

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

The Hockey News is a Joke ! who is this "Guetnzel "

I assume he's a guy on the Pittsburg Penquins.

 

[Ryder71]

Lekkerimaki would look good with Sid I think in a year or so. Hope we could get something done there.

 

[The Old Master]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins/latest-news/vancouver-canucks-making-push-pittsburgh-penguins-jake-guentzel

Article says that the price would be 'enormous' and that Vancouver would be willing to pay.

bless you jr

 

[Malkinstheman]

Dubas was able to get the 15th overall + Hallander from JR for Kapanen. Hopefully he can rob Jimmy again.