Salary Cap: Pens Salary Thread: Pens Ownership "Dubas... that Coca-Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some waiver players in there."

[Ulf5]

Basically 2 2nds and a 3rd for Tanev at 50%. Gotta think Jake is worth more than that.

75%. NJ got a 4th for retaining.

 

[Josey Wales]

Pierre LeBrun

@PierreVLeBrun
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Flames retain 50 percent on Tanev then the Devils further retain 50 percent on Tanev before he finally arrives in Dallas.Fun!

 

[Nakawick]

I think getting younger players ready to play now is also in our best interest for this deadline, considering we are going to try again next year. Would probably keep anyone who is not a pending UFA, with the exception of Smith.
Jake, Smith, Ned could all go.

 

[Malkinstheman]

VAN wanted to bring Tanev back to play with Hughes. JR can't be happy about this. Here's hoping he goes full court press on Guentzel.

 

[Darren McCord]

There isn't a spot for him there until Rakell isn't on the team anymore.

Your assuming the get Mikheyev. If they don’t or get someone expiring on LW they will be missing a top 9 LW.

Rakell
DOC

 

[Empoleon8771]

Your assuming the get Mikheyev. If they don’t or get someone expiring on LW they will be missing a top 9 LW.

Rakell
DOC

I think they're going to have to take Mikheyev back if they're sending Guentzel to Vancouver. I don't think Vancouver can make the money work without it.

If they don't take back Mikheyev, you're right that they do have a top-6 LW spot. I'm just figuring that they'll have to do that. I also like Mikheyev-Malkin-Lekkerimaki on paper, at least from what I've read about them, so I'd actually kinda be hoping to run with that.

I think you eventually trade Rakell and have Yager replace Rakell down the line. But like I said a few times, my concern is whether Crosby would be okay playing with 2 righties long-term.

 

[Darren McCord]

I think they're going to have to take Mikheyev back if they're sending Guentzel to Vancouver. I don't think Vancouver can make the money work without it.

If they don't take back Mikheyev, you're right that they do have a top-6 LW spot. I'm just figuring that they'll have to do that. I also like Mikheyev-Malkin-Lekkerimaki on paper, at least from what I've read about them, so I'd actually kinda be hoping to run with that.

I think you eventually trade Rakell and have Yager replace Rakell down the line. But like I said a few times, my concern is whether Crosby would be okay playing with 2 righties long-term.

Be nice if Poulin wasn’t injured. Now would be a great chance to see what he could do at LW in the top 9

 

[Rakell67]

Be nice if Poulin wasn’t injured. Now would be a great chance to see what he could do at LW in the top 9

When was he expected back.

 

[Darren McCord]

When was he expected back.

No idea

 

[Empoleon8771]

Be nice if Poulin wasn’t injured. Now would be a great chance to see what he could do at LW in the top 9

I'd be happy if he just showed he's a NHLer, which seems to be optimistic with him at this point.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Speaking of next year, I'm actually a bit curious to see what they do with their depth forwards for next year. They have a lot of RFAs or depth guys under contract for next year, all of O'Connor, Bemstrom, Puljujarvi, Puustinen, Phillips, Nieto, Eller and Acciari are under contract or RFAs and should be in bottom-6 roles. It's a log-jam of super middling guys, so I wonder if Dubas tries to clear out some of this at some point. I also think Poulin becomes waiver eligible next year as well.

My guess is that Phillips ends up not being retained and Puljujarvi ends up in the AHL, but it's still a logjam of pretty middling guys even without those two. If the Penguins get a few NHLers in the Guentzel deal as well, it becomes even more crowded.

This is also kinda why I don't really know where Puustinen fits long-term. I feel like he and Bemstrom serve the same exact purpose, and if Bemstrom ends up legit, where does that leave Puustinen?

 

[Darren McCord]

Speaking of next year, I'm actually a bit curious to see what they do with their depth forwards for next year. They have a lot of RFAs or depth guys under contract for next year, all of O'Connor, Bemstrom, Puljujarvi, Puustinen, Phillips, Nieto, Eller and Acciari are under contract or RFAs and should be in bottom-6 roles. It's a log-jam of super middling guys, so I wonder if Dubas tries to clear out some of this at some point. I also think Poulin becomes waiver eligible next year as well.

My guess is that Phillips ends up not being retained and Puljujarvi ends up in the AHL, but it's still a logjam of pretty middling guys even without those two. If the Penguins get a few NHLers in the Guentzel deal as well, it becomes even more crowded.

This is also kinda why I don't really know where Puustinen fits long-term. I feel like he and Bemstrom serve the same exact purpose, and if Bemstrom ends up legit, where does that leave Puustinen?

keeping all of Nieto, Eller, and Accairi over Puustinen is pretty stupid. Puustinen should be in top 6 on RW.

Rust
Puustinen
Bemstrom

Is the RW depth right now.

 

[Empoleon8771]

keeping all of Nieto, Eller, and Accairi over Puustinen is pretty stupid. Puustinen should be in top 6 on RW.

Rust
Puustinen
Bemstrom

Is the RW depth right now.

Right now or beyond the year? If beyond the year, they better get a damn good LWer to play with Malkin and Puustinen.

Puustinen is "good" in a top-6 role like Simon was "good" in a top-6 role: as a 3rd wheel for 2 elite linemates.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Tim Benz said in an opinion piece what I have been saying.

Despite the very satisfying wins of late nothing has changed since Dubas talked about being possible sellers at the deadline. It remains the most likely right move.

Tim Benz: Victory in Vancouver may be Penguins' win of the year. But is the season too far gone for Kyle Dubas?

The Penguins’ overtime victory over the Vancouver Canucks had a ton of memorable moments. • The Pens overcame a 2-0 deficit (and some shaky penalty calls) in the first period. • The usually repugnant power play scored on a five-on-three, only to yield a shorthanded goal to J.T. Miller during

triblive.com

 

[Lustaf]

If the prospect is Hoglander or Lekkerimaki +++, that trade IMO is a no brainer. I have a good feeling we will fleece the Canucks here


On a hockey's future site !!! lol The last time I was this excited was at the Pittsburgh draft in 2012 when we traded Staal only to draft Pouliot instead of Forsberg lol

And we all know who the trading GM was then too.

 

[Ryder71]

It just boggles my mind that anyone would believe that Dubas would let Jake walk for nothing in attempting a failed run to the playoffs. He all but said he'll be trading him. We're not all of a sudden cup contenders. Let's get real here and look at the big picture. In trading him you can get a player that helps now as well as (potentially) in the future.

All that said, losing tomorrow helps the cause, this weekend as well. Make it easy on Kyle boys, lose!

 

[HandshakeLine]

Right now or beyond the year? If beyond the year, they better get a damn good LWer to play with Malkin and Puustinen.

Puustinen is "good" in a top-6 role like Simon was "good" in a top-6 role: as a 3rd wheel for 2 elite linemates.

Nothing White or Harkins can't fix.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Nothing White or Harkins can't fix.

"By god that's ZAR and Simon's music!"

 

[66-30-33]

If a Jake trade happens I am guessing it's happening on the weekend. Just a feeling.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

If a Jake trade happens I am guessing it's happening on the weekend. Just a feeling.

If it doesn’t happen by next Wednesday at the latest, I suspect either he’ll be kept or traded last minute on deadline day for a bag of peanuts. To summarize, he either will be traded or not. Hope that was helpful.

 

[HandshakeLine]

"By god that's ZAR and Simon's music!"

We wish Harkins and White were as good in the top 6 as Simon. And Simon was terrible!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

"By god that's ZAR and Simon's music!"

Sullivan's a genius. He saw how much hate ZAR gets, so he plays someone even worse than ZAR so fans will miss having ZAR in the lineup.

 

[66-30-33]

If it doesn’t happen by next Wednesday at the latest, I suspect either he’ll be kept or traded last minute on deadline day for a bag of peanuts. To summarize, he either will be traded or not. Hope that was helpful.

Deadline is Tuesday I thought?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

We wish Harkins and White were as good in the top 6 as Simon. And Simon was terrible!

Shit, I reviled ZAR but I'd take him back over any of Carter, Acciari, Nieto, Harkins, or White.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Sullivan's a genius. He saw how much hate ZAR gets, so he plays someone even worse than ZAR so fans will miss having ZAR in the lineup.

Real 4D chess stuff. Awe-inspiring.