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[MS]

Eh, I think it's fair to say he overperformed wrt shooting, but I also agree with Allvin that the effort wasn't there from Boeser in the latter half of the season. I and others commented multiple times about Boeser's resurgence in the first half being due to his increased work ethic, and lamented his play in the second half when he seemed to regress back to his old ways. There was a specific game against the Kings late in the season where he completely disengaged from the play leading to a goal against. I'm glad he got it back in the playoffs, though.

Exactly.

He came out with a much higher compete level early in the season and was rewarded for it, but after getting up to 25-30 goals mid-seasonish that compete level dropped and the old bad habits started to creep back into his game.

His numbers down the stretch look much like his numbers from prior years and it isn't just his SH% that fell - his SOG were down by nearly a shot/game. And yeah, those sorts of totally disengaged plays with low compete level started popping up relatively frequently.

As you say, he did right the ship in the playoffs though.

Totally fair comment from Allvin, although surprised he made it public. But I also don't think it's by accident that he made it public.

 

[Lindgren]

Exactly.

He came out with a much higher compete level early in the season and was rewarded for it, but after getting up to 25-30 goals mid-seasonish that compete level dropped and the old bad habits started to creep back into his game.

His numbers down the stretch look much like his numbers from prior years and it isn't just his SH% that fell - his SOG were down by nearly a shot/game. And yeah, those sorts of totally disengaged plays with low compete level started popping up relatively frequently.

As you say, he did right the ship in the playoffs though.

Totally fair comment from Allvin, although surprised he made it public. But I also don't think it's by accident that he made it public.

Exactly.

 

[Vector]

Exactly.

Exactly.

 

[MS]

EXACTLY.

 

[Lindgren]

Exactly.

Whomst thinks so?

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

 

[F A N]

All those things are certainly true, but I can't recall a time when a manager has accounted for a "lull" in a veteran's performance by suggesting that his effort declined after he reached a goal total.

I can't think of anything off on the top of my head but I'm thinking it does happen? I mean the Sedins were coming off a season where they led the team in scoring and Gillis questioned whether they were front line players. I think Burke was more outspoken in his criticisms of rookies but he certainly wasn't shy offering his transport services. Usually the comments are more PC like saying a player has more to give.

 

[Lindgren]

I can't think of anything off on the top of my head but I'm thinking it does happen? I mean the Sedins were coming off a season where they led the team in scoring and Gillis questioned whether they were front line players. I think Burke was more outspoken in his criticisms of rookies but he certainly wasn't shy offering his transport services. Usually the comments are more PC like saying a player has more to give.

Those were unusual in themselves, but there's a sense in which the Boeser comment goes even further, suggesting as it does a kind of selfishness on the player's part. (Maybe Vigneault's public questioning of Hodgson's character, which he should have publicly apologized for when it turned out that yes, it was a good idea for Hodgson to get a second medical opinion.)

 

[Peen]

We're only a year off of Boeser getting overrated/lazy comments from the chiclets guys. And I don't listen to their pod or care for their opinions, but that was the industry perception.

I think PA's comments were on the nose !!

 

[EpochLink]

We're only a year off of Boeser getting overrated/lazy comments from the chiclets guys. And I don't listen to their pod or care for their opinions, but that was the industry perception.

I think PA's comments were on the nose !!

Those guys are ass, especially that freeloader Ryan Whitney

 

[tyhee]

The league and NHLPA let Arizona get to the cap floor by trading for multiple players that were on Robidas island and were never going to play again. I don’t know how they would let that slide but go after a team that was over the floor until a 10m dollar player tragically died weeks before training camp.

I don't understand your logic here. Nobody is saying the league wouldn't let Columbus get to the floor using the same method Arizona used (you called it Robidas Island) which is entirely within the rules.

 

[andora]

Is it still weird to some that we have actual management now and accountability?

 

[Vector]

Is it still weird to some that we have actual management now and accountability?

All the time. Even if things don’t look great, I’m
confident they have multiple plans to weather the storm and have a firm grasp on what’s at stake.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Is it still weird to some that we have actual management now and accountability?

Yes. But do we have enough players who can really rip the puck! And have we filled the age gap with enough washed up vets!

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836571650495492313

Possible pto.

 

[rypper]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836571650495492313

Possible pto.

Yeah no.

 

[im gangster]

Those guys are ass, especially that freeloader Ryan Whitney

Those guys are embarrassing.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

 

[dellzor]

Is Lankinen the only UFA goalie left?

Raanta, Jones and Francouz are reportedly retired

 

[Vector]

Is Lankinen the only UFA goalie left?

Raanta, Jones and Francouz are reportedly retired

Pretty much, yeah. Anyone else would be very far down the depth chart.

 

[F A N]

Those were unusual in themselves, but there's a sense in which the Boeser comment goes even further, suggesting as it does a kind of selfishness on the player's part. (Maybe Vigneault's public questioning of Hodgson's character, which he should have publicly apologized for when it turned out that yes, it was a good idea for Hodgson to get a second medical opinion.)

I think coaches are in a separate category. I didn't read the comment the same way you and some others do which is ok. Allvin made similar comments about Petey that Petey took his foot off the gas a little bit (after he signed his contract).

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

All the time. Even if things don’t look great, I’m
confident they have multiple plans to weather the storm and have a firm grasp on what’s at stake.

This is easily my main reason for not worrying about the team like I used to (if I even bothered to pay attention). If there's a bump in the road, both Rutherford and Allvin have shown they'll make adjustments as quickly as they can. The fact they were already prepping Lekk to suit up if we ousted Edmonton shows that.

It's just a great feeling to have forward thinking management after the decade of disaster that preceded them.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

It came across that way but I think it could also be taken as him having confidence in Boeser and that he feels his ceiling is even higher. He could have meant that even though he was working hard he didn’t shoot enough and deferred to others too much.
Boeser himself said he needed to prove himself and do better this year.

It's nothing to look too deeply in. The greatest goal scorers ever are the guys who maintain relentless hungriness and never let up even a hair when they hit a target or get to 30 or 50. Especially the first time it happened.

Doesn't mean they got lazy, weren't trying to win, etc. But you can become less desperate to score and more 'hoping' you score when you get to a number at or above what you were hoping it would be.

I think Allvin is telling him to bear down because he's got more in him.

 

[Phrasing]

Is Klingberg’s hip rehabbed? Cheap right hand side depth?

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Is Klingberg’s hip rehabbed? Cheap right hand side depth?

He's 32 and lost a step before his injury issues. His best asset that allowed him to play defense was his skating and speed which is probably all gone now. He was always a mediocre defenseman in his own zone and would often get caught out of position.

I would have loved to sign Hakanpaa instead.