Salary Cap: Pens Salary Cap Thread: If we score 6 we win, its science!

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Empoleon8771

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Yeah, finally after how many years? Teams didn't wanna trade for him, maybe his play this season they will take him. Also Chychrun is an upgrade (when healthy).

I think the "when healthy" thing is a big thing to mention, though. Letang is super injury prone already, so adding Chychrun to that is a lot of risk.

On the flip side, I don't believe Pettersson has ever had an extended injury with the Penguins.
 

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I think the "when healthy" thing is a big thing to mention, though. Letang is super injury prone already, so adding Chychrun to that is a lot of risk.

On the flip side, I don't believe Pettersson has ever had an extended injury with the Penguins.
I edited after (This would be an offseason deal).
 

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What are the thoughts on the Dumpo extension? 4 years/3.5?



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I think the "when healthy" thing is a big thing to mention, though. Letang is super injury prone already, so adding Chychrun to that is a lot of risk.

On the flip side, I don't believe Pettersson has ever had an extended injury with the Penguins.

Has Letang missed that much time lately? Seems like he's been relatively available over the past 3-4 seasons
 

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Yeah, finally after how many years? Teams didn't wanna trade for him, maybe his play this season they will take him. Also Chychrun is an upgrade (when healthy). This would also be an offseason deal.

I don't think moving Petterson is the right move going forward, I'd trade Dumo personally, get assets and move on no matter our positioning in the standings come deadline. Cash in, Dumo is 5x the D Chariot is and look what the Habs got last year for him!!
 
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I think the "when healthy" thing is a big thing to mention, though. Letang is super injury prone already, so adding Chychrun to that is a lot of risk.

On the flip side, I don't believe Pettersson has ever had an extended injury with the Penguins.
Which is the most shocking thing imo. Marcus has been the most hit player in the league for a while, you'd think a skinny wanker like him would be pretty hurt often, but nope.
 

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Random question—why was the order at the top of the 2004 draft Was, Pit, Chi? We had 58 points in 03-04 and Was & Chi both had 59. So, why’d the Caps jump us and why them instead of Chi? I’m curious because the lottery came with Sid’s draft, the following draft.
 

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Random question—why was the order at the top of the 2004 draft Was, Pit, Chi? We had 58 points in 03-04 and Was & Chi both had 59. So, why’d the Caps jump us and why them instead of Chi? I’m curious because the lottery came with Sid’s draft, the following draft.

There was a lottery in 2004. It was just only the worst five teams and only for 1st overall then the worst team got 2nd and so on. Caps leap frogged us.

If they hadn’t we would have been ineligible for Sid.
 

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There was a lottery in 2004. It was just only the worst five teams and only for 1st overall then the worst team got 2nd and so on. Caps leap frogged us.

If they hadn’t we would have been ineligible for Sid.
Ok, thanks! Yeah, I’m happy the way it turned out.
 

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Imagine a Ovechkin-Crosby-Malkin line.
Honestly Ovechkin-Malkin haven't looked good together from what I saw in most international tournaments. 2010 in particular there was the cool Ovy hit on Jagr leading to the Malkin goal but they were ineffective otherwise.

Ovy-Crosby would probably have broken records though. I think also prime Kovalchuk and Crosby would have been an absurd combo
 

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Honestly Ovechkin-Malkin haven't looked good together from what I saw in most international tournaments. 2010 in particular there was the cool Ovy hit on Jagr leading to the Malkin goal but they were ineffective otherwise.

Ovy-Crosby would probably have broken records though. I think also prime Kovalchuk and Crosby would have been an absurd combo
Would be cool but 3 cups beats having those players and the unknown that comes with it.
 
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There was a lottery in 2004. It was just only the worst five teams and only for 1st overall then the worst team got 2nd and so on. Caps leap frogged us.

If they hadn’t we would have been ineligible for Sid.
Not ineligible but we would have had less lottery balls. You got three balls if you hadn't made the playoffs from 01-04 and hadn't picked first overall over that period.

The Pens did in fact pick first overall over that period for Fleury but that was a pick they traded for, so it didn't affect their eligibility for three balls I guess.

Two balls were if you had only one playoff appearance or first overall pick during that period. Washington fell into the bucket because of winning the OV lottery.

One ball was everyone else.

Interestingly enough the Rangers, Jackets, and Sabres all had as many balls as we did. It's funny that everyone says Bettman rigged the draft for us because we not only had among the highest odds but the Rangers had equally high odds and I imagine Uncle Gary would have been pretty damned happy to see Crosby playing for the Rangers. If he really wanted to rig it having such a high profile player in New York seems like not a bad idea...
 
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Would rather throw the assets it costs to land Chychrun at Tarasenko or Kane. We don't need another logjam on D (like last year) and the health we are currently seeing in our offensive corps is not likely to last all season and into the playoffs.

We are so incredibly dangerous with one of those guys on PP1.
 

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Would rather throw the assets it costs to land Chychrun at Tarasenko or Kane. We don't need another logjam on D (like last year) and the health we are currently seeing in our offensive corps is not likely to last all season and into the playoffs.

We are so incredibly dangerous with one of those guys on PP1.
Kane would work well assuming that Crosby and Malkin are willing to cede the half wall to him. But there's no way to make that cap hit work unless Letang or some other big cap hit gets LTIR and doesn't come back until the playoffs.
 
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Kane would work well assuming that Crosby and Malkin are willing to cede the half wall to him. But there's no way to make that cap hit work unless Letang or some other big cap hit gets LTIR and doesn't come back until the playoffs.
If we can get him with 50% retained…but that’s gonna cost us more asset wise…
 

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There was a lottery in 2004. It was just only the worst five teams and only for 1st overall then the worst team got 2nd and so on. Caps leap frogged us.

If they hadn’t we would have been ineligible for Sid.
Just to be pedantic, but technically in 2004, all the teams that missed the playoffs participated in the lottery, but the winner wasn't guaranteed to pick first - they just moved up four places. So the bottom five teams had a chance to pick first, but sometimes you'd see, for instance, the 14th overall team move to 10th place, instead.
The odds of winning were different for each team, such that the worst team had the best chance of winning the lottery, but it was some really small chance they had of outright winning it. That said, because if any team outside the bottom 5 won the lottery, the worst team still picked first overall, having the worst record meant the absolute best chance of picking first (and a guarantee of picking no worse than second overall).

This was actually the system in place for a very long time (aside from 2005, which had special rules due to there not being a preceding season, and the fact that it was the Crosby Draft), and they were used up to the McDavid draft. When it became obvious that Buffalo was blatantly tanking hard to get either McDavid or Eichel, they tried to change the rules last minute to the current system, but Buffalo raised enough of a stink about changing the rules out from under them after the fact, they delayed the "lottery for the top four picks" change to the next year. The rules have been tweaked a couple times since then, but this is what I remember off the top of my head...
(I am a fountain of useless trivia, apparently).
 

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Kane would work well assuming that Crosby and Malkin are willing to cede the half wall to him. But there's no way to make that cap hit work unless Letang or some other big cap hit gets LTIR and doesn't come back until the playoffs.

That's almost the issue with both Kane and Tarasenko. They essentially like to play where our two stars like to play on the PP.

What would be a godsend would be if we could find an elite scorer who likes the left side of the ice on the PP.
 
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That's almost the issue with both Kane and Tarasenko. They essentially like to play where our two stars like to play on the PP.

What would be a godsend would be if we could find an elite scorer who likes the left side of the ice on the PP.
Elite scorer sure but also someone who can run the entries like Kessel did…that’s why I want Kane
 
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