Salary Cap: Pens Salary Cap Thread: If we score 6 we win, its science!

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Gurglesons

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Watching this team try to navigate through the opponent's trap lately is giving me bad flash backs of the Dan Bylsma years. Defensemen firing shit passes that get picked off and when they do actually make one tape to tape the forward immediately turns it over anyways

It's hard to make any decisions on the last two games given how completely atrocious they were at all facets.
 
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It's hard to make any decisions on the last two games given how completely atrocious they were at all facets.
Yeah, we'll have to see how things trend over the next while. If they still look like this at the end of November, that's a problem.
 

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In context to anything positive regarding Petry so far, I'd agree.

He's been my least favorite Pens player since Jack Johnson. Holy smokes does he suck right now. All the downsides of a bad Letang with none of the upside.

In fact, much like Johnson you can count on the announcers to praise a meaningless check at the blue line for minutes on end then ignore just how bad he is at everything else.

What is Petry bad at? I feel like you're watching a different player than everyone else. #8 isn't Petry's number.
 
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Why do I keep reading Petry sucks lately? I'm so confused. He's been pretty damn good for the Pens. Better then Matheson.
Yea I don’t know, he’s taken some dumb penalties but aside from that I don’t see the issue. Letang and Dumoulin have been the tire fire recently.
 

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Yeah Petry's giving the exact results anyone should have hoped for whenever they acquired him. He's been a bit inconsistent but that's just an issue he has as a player. It's the same way Letang sometimes has some downright dreadful games followed by dominating on the ice.

They brought in Petry to eat minutes on the 2nd pair, add another offensive threat from the blue line and add size/physicality to the defense. As far as I can tell, he's doing all of that. If you wanted a guy who did all of that while also not having any sort of consistency problems, you're sure as hell not getting that for Matheson.

Petry is in that same group of super athletic but questionable IQ defensemen that guys like Letang, Nurse, Phaneuf, Ristolainen and such are/were also in. Without that questionable IQ, Petry never would have left Edmonton and would be making $10 million as their #1 defenseman.
 

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Yeah Petry's giving the exact results anyone should have hoped for whenever they acquired him. He's been a bit inconsistent but that's just an issue he has as a player. It's the same way Letang sometimes has some downright dreadful games followed by dominating on the ice.

They brought in Petry to eat minutes on the 2nd pair, add another offensive threat from the blue line and add size/physicality to the defense. As far as I can tell, he's doing all of that. If you wanted a guy who did all of that while also not having any sort of consistency problems, you're sure as hell not getting that for Matheson.

Petry is in that same group of super athletic but questionable IQ defensemen that guys like Letang, Nurse, Phaneuf, Ristolainen and such are/were also in. Without that questionable IQ, Petry never would have left Edmonton and would be making $10 million as their #1 defenseman.

Not sure I agree with the last paragraph but everything else is fine.
 

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Petry's been fine at 5v5 when not taking penalties. Problem is he took 5 of them so far. 4 I would deem very avoidable. One was in OT, where you're really leaving your teammates out to dry in a 4 on 3 situation. I think 4 of those 5 ended up in the back of our net, with our 28th ranked PK not bailing him out.

His defense apart from that has been slightly better than I expected. There have been some bad pinches and decisions that Petts bailed him out on.

He's been scored on 6 times at ES. I just watched all the goals against.



You could argue this goal is his fault I guess. Petts clearly has the backdoor guy and he fails to cover RNH behind him. Not easy though, cuz it happened fast and he's out of his field of vision.
That's about it out of the 6.



On this one he allowed the Flame to get net-front positioning, which led to the screen and the goal. However, I'm not sure if he could have done anything to prevent it, short of taking a penalty. Not sure where the line is on interference :laugh: Plus you wouldn't expect this to get through the goalie. Unfortunate bounce to the only hole.

He's being used in 58.3% D-zone start role at ES. This is on pace for his career high in that regard. Matheson had it easier with 49.0%.
It's gonna be difficult for Petry to generate ES offense this way.
 
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Updated record for tired teams vs rested teams: 7-15-2 > .333 P%. That is lower than what 32nd place Montreal finished with.
Essentially, in this situation teams generally play like the worst team in the league.

...Which is why I'll be surprised if we get wins against Seattle and Buffalo coming up here.

The good news is Vancouver is playing Thursday, so the same applies to them against us.
 

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Updated record for tired teams vs rested teams: 7-15-2 > .333 P%. That is lower than what 32nd place Montreal finished with.
Essentially, in this situation teams generally play like the worst team in the league.

...Which is why I'll be surprised if we get wins against Seattle and Buffalo coming up here.

The good news is Vancouver is playing Thursday, so the same applies to them against us.
We'll still spin it as 'we were rusty' and they had 'momentum from the previous night'
 

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I just wanna see the reactions if/when the Pens lose to the Canucks. Preferably a blown lead into a regulation loss for Vancouver's first win of the season. This place would turn into Chernobyl.
 

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Vancouver winless. Dare I say they pick up their first W of the season thursday?

I wouldn't be surprised for either outcome. Penguins are capable of both great things and great disappointment.
 

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I just wanna see the reactions if/when the Pens lose to the Canucks. Preferably a blown lead into a regulation loss for Vancouver's first win of the season. This place would turn into Chernobyl.

if they play Demko tonight, that means Spencer Martin, with only one NHL start in which he gave up 3.79 goals and had a save % below .880, is gonna start for the Canucks….you know Pens against crappy goalies…the Canucks will be tearing up his contract and offering him $6.5M over 6 years after he plays the Pens…lol
 

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Lol. God sports writing is so boring these days.
Good for him if he's doing that well. I don't really care that much in context of the Penguins though. He wasn't doing that here, and I don't think that would have suddenly changed this year. It'd be sort of like us gloating Justin Schultz was a huge hit for us. He was, but does that mean he would have/could have been that for the Oilers? Nah.

Sometimes a change of scenery makes all the difference.

So if Devils fans want to gloat they can and god bless em I guess. But it's meaningless to me because Marino was not nor ever would have been that player for us.
 
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Good for him if he's doing that well. I don't really care that much in context of the Penguins though. He wasn't doing that here, and I don't think that would have suddenly changed this year. It'd be sort of like us gloating Justin Schultz was a huge hit for us. He was, but does that mean he would have/could have been that for the Oilers? Nah.

Sometimes a change of scenery makes all the difference.

So if Devils fans want to gloat they can and god bless em I guess. But it's meaningless to me because Marino was not nor ever would have been that player for us.

Marino is exactly what he was for us with the Devils. Just heavy overrating of metrics by the fan base to make him seem like some stud.
 

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Yeah Petry's giving the exact results anyone should have hoped for whenever they acquired him. He's been a bit inconsistent but that's just an issue he has as a player. It's the same way Letang sometimes has some downright dreadful games followed by dominating on the ice.

They brought in Petry to eat minutes on the 2nd pair, add another offensive threat from the blue line and add size/physicality to the defense. As far as I can tell, he's doing all of that. If you wanted a guy who did all of that while also not having any sort of consistency problems, you're sure as hell not getting that for Matheson.

Petry is in that same group of super athletic but questionable IQ defensemen that guys like Letang, Nurse, Phaneuf, Ristolainen and such are/were also in. Without that questionable IQ, Petry never would have left Edmonton and would be making $10 million as their #1 defenseman.
so far, both our two top RDs are old and look washed or in the process of declining. Petry has had more subpar games than good ones, Has been a penalty magnet that cost us games too.

Letang has been awful. Not liking our old and declining RD situation.
 
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Good for him if he's doing that well. I don't really care that much in context of the Penguins though. He wasn't doing that here, and I don't think that would have suddenly changed this year. It'd be sort of like us gloating Justin Schultz was a huge hit for us. He was, but does that mean he would have/could have been that for the Oilers? Nah.

Sometimes a change of scenery makes all the difference.

So if Devils fans want to gloat they can and god bless em I guess. But it's meaningless to me because Marino was not nor ever would have been that player for us.
I was never as down on Marino as most, but I agree a lot with what you say. No point in dwelling on the past.

Another reason they could be hyped over him is that they've been pretty bad for awhile. Even an average d-man can get the hopes high at that point. Remember what a breath of fresh air Mark Eaton was in 2006?
 

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I was never as down on Marino as most, but I agree a lot with what you say. No point in dwelling on the past.

Another reason they could be hyped over him is that they've been pretty bad for awhile. Even an average d-man can get the hopes high at that point. Remember what a breath of fresh air Mark Eaton was in 2006?

Ha... yeah. By the like third time Ray Shero dragged him out of retirement I was over it, though.

But boy that Eaton/Letang pairing was certainly NEVER the butt of some truly hilarious and totally original jokes!
 
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