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Zirakzigil

Zirakzigil

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Off season time. New thread time apparently cause @Ugene Magic doesn’t like high page counts.

So how about them Malkin and Letang UFAs? Maybe we should sign one or both.

Geno thread. Keep Geno talk here:

Rumor: - Geno where art thou?

With all the Geno rumors and news, time for its own thread. Keep the Geno talk here please.
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Big Friggin Dummy said:
This is definitely still JR's team, imo. The only notable changes since his departure have been the additions of Carter and Rakell, the latter of which may not even be back. /shrug

I'm not one of the people trying to crucify Hextall. I think the lack of moves is more on ownership than the FO, tbh. But I do think Hextall's the wrong guy if the goal is to genuinely improve and compete for Cups before Sid hangs 'em up. Previous ownership was forced to hire somebody because JR's a f***ing petulant child, and they chose to hire a guy who would be in charge of the dismantling/rebuild of the team a few years too early as opposed to hiring another GM to play run and gun from the GM chair just to fire them when the era played itself to a close in the next few years.
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Exactly. If they want to blow it up, fine. I can live with that. But they do not want that. OK, so if they want to keep "going for it", then do so! Right now, they have the perfect GM to remain stuck in mediocrity ad infinitum.
 
Ryder71 said:
If you believe it's nonsense why bring it up? Not trying to criticize you, just wondering.
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Just because they are not reliable anymore with what they say... only place that appears to be reliable is Dave Pagnotta of TFP.. because I'm bored as well ..
 
Big Friggin Dummy said:
This is definitely still JR's team, imo. The only notable changes since his departure have been the additions of Carter and Rakell, the latter of which may not even be back. /shrug

I'm not one of the people trying to crucify Hextall. I think the lack of moves is more on ownership than the FO, tbh. But I do think Hextall's the wrong guy if the goal is to genuinely improve and compete for Cups before Sid hangs 'em up. Previous ownership was forced to hire somebody because JR's a f***ing petulant child, and they chose to hire a guy who would be in charge of the dismantling/rebuild of the team a few years too early as opposed to hiring another GM to play run and gun from the GM chair just to fire them when the era played itself to a close in the next few years.
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But that's just my point, if this team was still acting like JR's teams, the team would be constantly under churn because of an impatient GM.

In Hextall's 2 years with the Penguins, the Penguins have brought in Carter, Rakell, Heinen, Boyle, McGinn and Friedman while losing Tanev, Ceci, ZAR, Jankowski, Sceviour and McCann. Those are small but positive changes overall, it's a lot of Hextall taking out the trash and swapping comparable players to save money.

In JR's last 2 years, the Penguins traded Hagelin, Sprong, Grant, Oleksiak, Sheahan, Brassard, Pearson (who they acquired for Hagelin months before), Maatta, Kessel, Gudbranson (who they acquired for Pearson months before), Galchenyuk (who they acquired for Kessel months before), Kahun (who they acquired for Maatta months before), Bjugstad, Hornqvist and Murray. And that's not even including UFAs that the Penguins let walk or brought in. I don't think it's a coincidence that a team that was allowed to gel and not be under constant roster turnover performed better than JR's monstrosities he threw together in 2019 and 2020.

It's "JR's team" in the sense that there hasn't been a ton of roster turnover since he left, but this team really isn't "JR's team" in practice because half the roster would be different if it was still acting like "JR's team".
 
Jobeycool said:
Just because they are not reliable anymore with what they say... only place that appears to be reliable is Dave Pagnotta of TFP.. because I'm bored as well ..
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I get being bored, boy do I get that! Only reason I'm here the last day or so.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
But that's just my point, if this team was still acting like JR's teams, the team would be constantly under churn because of an impatient GM.

In Hextall's 2 years with the Penguins, the Penguins have brought in Carter, Rakell, Heinen, Boyle, McGinn and Friedman while losing Tanev, Ceci, ZAR, Jankowski, Sceviour and McCann. Those are small but positive changes overall, it's a lot of Hextall taking out the trash and swapping comparable players to save money.

In JR's last 2 years, the Penguins traded Hagelin, Sprong, Grant, Oleksiak, Sheahan, Brassard, Pearson (who they acquired for Hagelin months before), Maatta, Kessel, Gudbranson (who they acquired for Pearson months before), Galchenyuk (who they acquired for Kessel months before), Kahun (who they acquired for Maatta months before), Bjugstad, Hornqvist and Murray. And that's not even including UFAs that the Penguins let walk or brought in. I don't think it's a coincidence that a team that was allowed to gel and not be under constant roster turnover performed better than JR's monstrosities he threw together in 2019 and 2020.

It's "JR's team" in the sense that there hasn't been a ton of roster turnover since he left, but this team really isn't "JR's team" in practice because half the roster would be different if it was still acting like "JR's team".
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Yeah. I meant more in composition not approach. Mix up on my part.
 
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Dennis Reynolds said:
It isn't 2008. Backups for $925k aren't a thing anymore.
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1.8 for a goalie that was a mess and not available for two playoffs as well as being a woman assaulting douche bag is too much.

It's good they've learned nothing. Sully has all the faith in the world with the ownership for more first round exits and now they have a f***ing clown back for 2 more years.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
But that's just my point, if this team was still acting like JR's teams, the team would be constantly under churn because of an impatient GM.

In Hextall's 2 years with the Penguins, the Penguins have brought in Carter, Rakell, Heinen, Boyle, McGinn and Friedman while losing Tanev, Ceci, ZAR, Jankowski, Sceviour and McCann. Those are small but positive changes overall, it's a lot of Hextall taking out the trash and swapping comparable players to save money.

In JR's last 2 years, the Penguins traded Hagelin, Sprong, Grant, Oleksiak, Sheahan, Brassard, Pearson (who they acquired for Hagelin months before), Maatta, Kessel, Gudbranson (who they acquired for Pearson months before), Galchenyuk (who they acquired for Kessel months before), Kahun (who they acquired for Maatta months before), Bjugstad, Hornqvist and Murray. And that's not even including UFAs that the Penguins let walk or brought in.

It's "JR's team" in the sense that there hasn't been a ton of roster turnover since he left, but this team really isn't "JR's team" in practice because half the roster would be different if it was still acting like "JR's team".
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There is more to GMing than winning trades and signings.

We are no closer to the Stanley Cup today than we were when Rutherford "resigned".

If Malkin walks, we have lost our last remaining hope that a Stanley Cup will be won before most of us all turn old and grey. Some of us are already there.
 
Daves aMess said:
Wut They never were reliable.
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Well they tricked me 10 years ago thinking they where reliable when I use to work.... unfortunately got diagnosed with brain cancer or nowadays they call it malignant tumors... However great news .. very good surgeon removed all the cancerous part of the tumor out...
 
Jag68Sid87 said:
There is more to GMing than winning trades and signings.

We are no closer to the Stanley Cup today than we were when Rutherford "resigned".

If Malkin walks, we have lost our last remaining hope that a Stanley Cup will be won before most of us all turn old and grey. Some of us are already there.
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I’m already old and grey. 3 cups from this core is good enough for me
 
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dogthateats said:
I Think it needs to have hockey in the title and appeal to Canadiens with disposable income.
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Jag68Sid87 said:
There is more to GMing than winning trades and signings.

We are no closer to the Stanley Cup today than we were when Rutherford "resigned".

If Malkin walks, we have lost our last remaining hope that a Stanley Cup will be won before most of us all turn old and grey. Some of us are already there.
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We're worse because of the way this coaching staff and GM are operating imo. Youth are not put in positions to succeed, insane bias and idiotic usage of players, first round exits don't mean anything in terms of accountability when you can lean hard into excuses instead.

I'd say enjoy the last 3yrs of Crosby's career but I'll find it f***ing hard to given everything else. And to the blokes that will be like "Oh relax" - they can save the f***ing bs about we've had it worse before...I've been a fan for over 4 decades. I know. I still f***ing hate it, so piss off.

ThosePuckingPenguins said:
FSG already pushing people out of the organization smh

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Yeah I'd leave too Dana. But I don't know if I want to invest in another team after all this time.
 
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IcedCapp said:
I’m already old and grey. 3 cups from this core is good enough for me
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Well, me too. Which is why I said I am fine with blowing it up and starting the rebuild right now.

But they refuse to do that, so we have to critique what they are trying to do. They are failing miserably at trying for one more kick at the can.
 
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Honour Over Glory said:
1.8 for a goalie that was a mess and not available for two playoffs as well as being a woman assaulting douche bag is too much.

It's good they've learned nothing. Sully has all the faith in the world with the ownership for more first round exits and now they have a f***ing clown back for 2 more years.
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Blaming DeSmith for getting hurt when Kreider crashed into him is silly.

I hear Avs fans want to jettison Darcy Kuemper. They're clamoring for a shorter goalie whose mask cage wouldn't have lined up perfectly with Johansen's stick blade.
 
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