Rumor: Pens, Crosby closing in on extension

[TheNumber4]

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Toronto Media you mean. They want Crosby to leave cause they think it sets a precedent that Star players should leave their towns if everything isn’t going exactly perfect. They think Crosby leaving means McDavid is going to Leaf’s. Yes, it’s very sad and petty of them to advocate for Crosby to break Pittsburgh’s heart for this reason, but that’s why they are doing it.

 

[The Don Hughes]

I get why they are doing this It's Sid.

But the right move is to trade him, because as long as Sid, Malkin, Letang, Karlsson etc. are there they are going to be where they have been the last 2 years.

Not good enough to be in the playoffs

Not bad enough to get high picks.

Exactly where Montreal has been for the better part of the last decade. Always finishing in the mid-pack and never get any decent picks. Its been tough but rebuild seems to be near the end. Pens had a great run at least with this core.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Any other NHL sweater would just look wrong

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

If Sid wants a lucrative deal that will provide him everything he wants and then some, he's certainly come to the right GM.

3 years, 10 million is "lucrative"? ...k, if you say so sport, it's ok to be wrong and all but you're so far off the map you've reached a new undiscovered continent.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I get why they are doing this It's Sid.

But the right move is to trade him, because as long as Sid, Malkin, Letang, Karlsson etc. are there they are going to be where they have been the last 2 years.

Not good enough to be in the playoffs

Not bad enough to get high picks.

Sid re-signing or being moved doesn't change the fact Malkin, Letang, Karlsson and Rust are still on the books. So I'm not sure why moving HIM of all people is the smart move, considering the others will still be there. And even without Sid, those guys being there will keep the Pens in that "not good enough to make the playoffs, not bad enough to get 1st overall" range.

Besides, it's rumored to be a 3-year extension. It's not like they're re-signing him for another 8 years. Whether the rebuild starts now, next year or when his extension ends, it doesn't really change much. HF is way too obsessed with rebuilds and having to IMMEDIATELY start one when a player gets too old or a team's core is a bit too old.

 

[57special]

I mean, I could see Sid being traded if it becomes obvious that PIT isn't a Cup contender, and he requests a trade to an out of division, or better yet, out of Conference team. I mean, it's becoming kind of clear to most of us that PIT is already in that spot, but players and teams tend to be overly optimistic about their chances - that's the way they are built.

Trading Sid w/o his blessing would risk turning off the fan base. PIT can't afford that.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

....Too crazy for boys town, too much of a boy for crazy town, the franchise was an outcast.

 

[Stealth1616]

I mean, I could see Sid being traded if it becomes obvious that PIT isn't a Cup contender, and he requests a trade to an out of division, or better yet, out of Conference team. I mean, it's becoming kind of clear to most of us that PIT is already in that spot, but players and teams tend to be overly optimistic about their chances - that's the way they are built.

Trading Sid w/o his blessing would risk turning off the fan base. PIT can't afford that.

What do you mean if it becomes obvious PIT isn’t a cup contender? I think that became obvious quite some time ago

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I'm sure this is exciting for the Pens and their fans but it would be way more interesting/entertaining for the rest of us if he went somewhere else to cup chase . The Pens will be stuck in no man's land as long as Crosby is there producing.

They'll also fill seats and have the best possible mentor for young players.

The whole league would've liked Mario to change teams in the end too.

 

[Zbynek]

Trades Guentzel but extending Crosby.

I get why they are doing this It's Sid.

But the right move is to trade him, because as long as Sid, Malkin, Letang, Karlsson etc. are there they are going to be where they have been the last 2 years.

Not good enough to be in the playoffs

Not bad enough to get high picks.

What 57+ years of no Stanley Cup does to a mf

 

[NVious]

Total waste of the last part of his career, but he's earned it so good for him, still sucks as a Hockey fan.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Good for him and Pittsburgh!

Crosby has been good to the fans and the fans have been good to him.

I admire that kind of loyalty and commitment and wish it was more prevalent in the league. And people can say he's choosing stability over a cup run but he's Crosby. He'll still be one of the most competitive player in the league and do his best.

 

[waitin425]

Crosby has earned the right to finish his career in Pittsburgh. Also, Pittsburgh has earned the right keep their franchise top 5 player of all time on the roster until the end. From a business stand point and just by virtue of Crosby = Pittsburgh it feels right.

But.....from a hockey standpoint, and probably long term....this is not the best decision for Pittsburgh. Their cup window is shut. Crosby will retire a Pen....all the feels will be there...and after that, without recouping what they could right now by trading him, they will be lost.
Dark days are on the horizon for Pittsburgh when Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Karlsson exit.

 

[Video Nasty]

Surprising how many people don’t get that he’s essentially going to be with the Penguins organization for life. He’s going to retire one and then likely move right into some position inside the franchise. Makes little sense to have that transition be interrupted by being involved with some other team.

 

[Drumman44]

I guess I wasted a lot of time listening to the podcasts about why Crosby should leave over the holiday weekend.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

The Pittsburgh Penguins are a business, the best business move is to keep Crosby and capitalize on him for the last few years.

Sure, hockey wise, it might be better to rebuild now and maximize the value of the player by getting prime assets for him. However, it comes at a risk. Crosby is a know commodity. His last few years and the milestones he can reach will sell more tickets than a rebuilding team. Might as well, cash in on that and rebuild later. You'll have to rebuild anyway.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Crosby has earned the right to finish his career in Pittsburgh. Also, Pittsburgh has earned the right keep their franchise top 5 player of all time on the roster until the end. From a business stand point and just by virtue of Crosby = Pittsburgh it feels right.

But.....from a hockey standpoint, and probably long term....this is not the best decision for Pittsburgh. Their cup window is shut. Crosby will retire a Pen....all the feels will be there...and after that, without recouping what they could right now by trading him, they will be lost.
Dark days are on the horizon for Pittsburgh when Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Karlsson exit.

Crosby's not bringing back nearly enough in a trade to change how their future is going to look.

It's not an apples to apples comparison, but Patrick Kane was traded for a 2nd as a rental. Crosby's not bringing back any sort of return that notably impacts the future rebuild that is coming.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Surprising how many people don’t get that he’s essentially going to be with the Penguins organization for life. He’s going to retire one and then likely move right into some position inside the franchise. Makes little sense to have that transition be interrupted by being involved with some other team.

Doubt it, he hasn't really mentioned any desire or given any notion he wants to get into any position, don't get me wrong it'll 100% be there if he wants it obviously, he's notoriously reclusive and prefers to keep to himself, I think the only time post retirement he'll show up would be his jersey retirement along with ones for 58, 71, 29, Mario's fantasy camps/ Alumni games, and the odd Cup reunion celebrations.

 

[IcedCapp]

i can only think of 2 franchises that Sid would, if forced to, want to play for other than Pittsburgh and neither of them are flush with cap space or assets. So the Pens would be 1) retaining 2) taking back salary 3) receiving nothing but draft capital from a team that is going to finish top-4 in the league for AT LEAST the remainder of Sid's career.

So we're talking like the 28th overall pick at best?

If this was the NBA where getting picks and swaps well into the future was more of a norm, maybe it makes sense, but getting a 2026 1st from the Avs isn't really kick starting the rebuild.

 

[Regal]

It would have been cool to see him go to a more competitive team while he’s still very good, but I can see why he wants to keep his legacy as a Pen. Either way it’s good for the league that he wants to continue playing that long. I know some fans thought he might retire at the end of his current deal which would be leaving a lot of good hockey on the table.

 

[Drumman44]

It's not an apples to apples comparison, but Patrick Kane was traded for a 2nd as a rental. Crosby's not bringing back any sort of return that notably impacts the future rebuild that is coming.

I have red and black colored glasses about Patrick Kane but I think you're underselling Crosby here. His position is at a premium compared to Kane's and he just straight up has had better more productive seasons lately with regards to Goals, Assists, and Games Played. I think he'd get at least the equivalent of 2 first round picks.

Player	Season	GP	G	A	P
Patrick Kane	2020 - 2021	56​	15​	51​	66​
Sidney Crosby	2020 - 2021	55​	24​	38​	62​
Patrick Kane	2021 - 2022	78​	26​	66​	92​
Sidney Crosby	2021 - 2022	69​	31​	53​	84​
Patrick Kane	2022 - 2023	73​	21​	36​	57​
Sidney Crosby	2022 - 2023	82​	33​	60​	93​
Patrick Kane	2023 - 2024	50​	20​	27​	47​
Sidney Crosby	2023 - 2024	82​	42​	52​	94​

 

[dgibb10]

I have red and black colored glasses about Patrick Kane but I think you're underselling Crosby here. His position is at a premium compared to Kane's and he just straight up has had better more productive seasons lately with regards to Goals, Assists, and Games Played. I think he'd get at least the equivalent of 2 first round picks.

Player	Season	GP	G	A	P
Patrick Kane	2020 - 2021	56​	15​	51​	66​
Sidney Crosby	2020 - 2021	55​	24​	38​	62​
Patrick Kane	2021 - 2022	78​	26​	66​	92​
Sidney Crosby	2021 - 2022	69​	31​	53​	84​
Patrick Kane	2022 - 2023	73​	21​	36​	57​
Sidney Crosby	2022 - 2023	82​	33​	60​	93​
Patrick Kane	2023 - 2024	50​	20​	27​	47​
Sidney Crosby	2023 - 2024	82​	42​	52​	94​

Full NMC and large cap hit rental means the return would be small both ways.

 

[Video Nasty]

Doubt it, he hasn't really mentioned any desire or given any notion he wants to get into any position, don't get me wrong it'll 100% be there if he wants it, he's notoriously quiet and reclusive and prefers to keep to himself, I think the only time post retirement he'd show up would be his jersey retirement along with ones for 58, 71, 29, Mario's fantasy camps, and the odd Cup reunion celebrations.

People obsessed with being the best at their craft usually don’t totally exit the game after retirement and Crosby has always struck me as such a person. Time will tell of course.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I have red and black colored glasses about Patrick Kane but I think you're underselling Crosby here. His position is at a premium compared to Kane's and he just straight up has had better more productive seasons lately with regards to Goals, Assists, and Games Played. I think he'd get at least the equivalent of 2 first round picks.

Player	Season	GP	G	A	P
Patrick Kane	2020 - 2021	56​	15​	51​	66​
Sidney Crosby	2020 - 2021	55​	24​	38​	62​
Patrick Kane	2021 - 2022	78​	26​	66​	92​
Sidney Crosby	2021 - 2022	69​	31​	53​	84​
Patrick Kane	2022 - 2023	73​	21​	36​	57​
Sidney Crosby	2022 - 2023	82​	33​	60​	93​
Patrick Kane	2023 - 2024	50​	20​	27​	47​
Sidney Crosby	2023 - 2024	82​	42​	52​	94​

His NMC and ability to pick any location he goes to kills any sort of notable value he has.

I think a late 1st and a decent prospect would be the absolute max he could bring back.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Crosby isn’t leaving, he’s said so numerous times. And he’s not signing for 10min+. The contract will be some form of 87 likes it’s always been.

The only people angry about this are fans from other teams.