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Salary Cap: Pens '23-'24 Salary Cap Thread: "But if you don't get the President of the Pittsburgh Penguins on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?"

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How soon before Letang is back on PP1:

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SEALBound said:
Oh yeah, I don't disagree with that one bit. To be fair to Sid too, I guess, he change with Therrien, he changed with Bylsma, he changed a bit with Johnson, and he's changed a bit with Sullivan. So maybe I'm not being fair enough to the guy but it still makes me wonder how much, if any, pull of the strings he has. For as much as I love this organization (and I always will), it's not like this would be the first time we've had a generational superstar talent here. The org was known as quite the country club when Lemieux was playing. For a personality like Sid, it may be more passively dictator-ish.
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Bad leadership if they're making/not making decisions based on what they are told from coaches/players tbh.

It's your job to be objective as a leader in certain situations. If you ask a direct report how they feel about another worker/manager- you might get an emotional response or you might get nothing. That, if anything, should be one grain of sand in your equation. Is Sid/Letang/Geno for that matter gonna dog the coach if asked? I doubt they are even ever asked - if they are it'll be something like 'how do you like the system you play' - 'yeah it's fine'... I mean these guys are geared to straight put up with anything and always say they can do better.

The organization should be taking a look at personnel and coaches and saying - you know what, things need shifting around. Sid/Letang/Geno gonna be mad? Maybe they'll say they didn't want the player moved or the coach fired - but oh well. Sometimes those guys just need decisions made for them and to see how they adjust.

MAF was let go. Just saying. Certain players/coaches should not, ever, be off the table.
 
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Sid was fine when he saw his BFF Colby dealt, MAF let go, Kunitz let go, etc. Geno was fine when Malone walked, and the team traded Neal.

They know it's a business. They know better than we do how much the team's declined in recent years. If ownership and the FO feel its best to fire Sullivan, or trade Jake, or Sullivan wants them to play a complete different way, I'm sure they'll be fine. If not, oh well, they'll either get over it, or they'll point to a preferred destination if the moves result in these guys throwing a tantrum and demanding out. But I reeeeally do not think that latter part would happen--doesn't seem like Sid or Geno at all.

-edit- Also, I kinda wanna see this team pretend to be the Isles or Canes just for the laughs. Watching this group try to play an aggressive forecheck with stifling defense with the personnel they have, with Jarry as the last line of defense, well--unrelated; but does anyone have a pre-draft scouting report for Celebrini and the other kids in the top-5 of the draft? :laugh:
 
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HandshakeLine said:
We already have Nylander at home.
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Nylander at home:

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Man I remember feeling intense angst about the Pens when they hit that rough patch post 2009. I worried that Crosby and Malkin would end their careers with one cup and that they would end up being kinda wasted.

I can't imagine being an Oilers fan right now sitting on 0 cups and watching this season play out. Awful
 
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Pens as I stated last year with a couple smart moves could be dangerous. Unfortunately, Hextall was the GM. Somehow at the TDL if the Pens are in the hunt getting a better 3rd RS RD and finding cap space for a physical LW is my preference. POJ moved, Ruhwedel sent down, at least gives the Pens 1,8 million of cap space to work with. Maybe Pysyk can be ready to go by then.
 
Flyers and Edmonton seem like good trading partners. Philly can absorb Campbell's deal, they're looking for a landing place for Hart, Edmonton's probably in desperation/win-now mode.
 
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Big Friggin Dummy said:
Flyers and Edmonton seem like good trading partners. Philly can absorb Campbell's deal, they're looking for a landing place for Hart, Edmonton's probably in desperation/win-now mode.
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I feel like the Flyers are always trying to delude themselves into being win now even when they suck though so I dunno if I could see them doing that kind of forward thinking move
 
Pancakes said:
I feel like the Flyers are always trying to delude themselves into being win now even when they suck though so I dunno if I could see them doing that kind of forward thinking move
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I think they've kinda accepted a genuine rebuild is needed. They've been fielding calls about Hart, iirc, for a bit now. They'd do well to get rid of Torts too. Dude's anathema to young players.
 
SEALBound said:
A great teammate? Great. Great! Be a great teammate in the press box. Get the guys juice boxes after the game. Pick up the tab for a young guy.

Just stay the f*** off the ice. Better yet, be willing to waive your NMC.
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If he was such a great teammate he'd just LTIRetire so his teammates could have a good player with them instead of an overpaid nacho wrangler.
 
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vikingGoalie said:
could we trade Jarry to the Oil ? he's an all star after all
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12-team no trade list each season of his deal...including this one.

Can't imagine the Canadian franchises aren't on that list. The remaining teams will be our dilemma figuring out over the course of the deal. I think the best thing we can hope for is that management gets ANOTHER 5M goalie and just platoons him...as...anyone with eyes knew Jarry had/has been masquerading as an NHL starter for some time now. Dude is a 1B at best so let's hope another couple 3GAA+ games gets them thinking about some reinforcement. Maybe then we can get the next Lehner or whomever to push him away.

I just don't see any way this management has the balls to deal him this early. Could you throw him into the deal with Guentzel or other player X in a 2:2 swap? (i.e. 'better'/different goalie + worse forward/defenseman coming back).....maybe.
 
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molon labe said:
12-team no trade list each season of his deal...including this one.

Can't imagine the Canadian franchises aren't on that list. The remaining teams will be our dilemma figuring out over the course of the deal. I think the best thing we can hope for is that management gets ANOTHER 5M goalie and just platoons him...as...anyone with eyes knew Jarry had/has been masquerading as an NHL starter for some time now. Dude is a 1B at best so let's hope another couple 3GAA+ games gets them thinking about some reinforcement. Maybe then we can get the next Lehner or whomever to push him away.

I just don't see any way this management has the balls to deal him this early. Could you throw him into the deal with Guentzel or other player X in a 2:2 swap? (i.e. 'better'/different goalie + worse forward/defenseman coming back).....maybe.
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No they won't deal him this quick, but he played his juniors for the Oil Kings. So he either has a soft spot for Edmonton or realized how much it sucks and never wants to go back.
 
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I'm thinking they are content having stars on a club that's mediocre. Success seems more of a byproduct rather than a requirement here anymore. Win some, lose some.

Can always blame injuries and bad puck luck and provide the media with a few smiles.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
I think the Wild should also be a cautionary tale for why the "we don't rebuild" strategy isn't all that effective. It will definitely keep you as a consistent playoff team but you're not accomplishing anything if you can't develop your own home-grown superstars.

They pulled off basically the best you could get in UFA when they signed Parise and Suter and what did it accomplish them? Pretty much nothing and now they have their bloated dead cap hits to deal with.
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Those contracts doomed them for 15ish years in hindsight. Might go down as one of the most disasterous off seasons any team has ever had.
 
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