GDT: Pens 2024 Trade Deadline Thread: Jake Shake Talk here

[3ladesof5teel]

The real question is who are we signing next year

 

[pensfan71]

I hope we fall for a top 5 pick and come back with a vengeance next year

 

[Andy99]

Well to say this is underwhelming is just an understatement. Yes I was going off info that seemed to be what was reported. But this is simply a Dubas not sticking with unless the deal was have to do it, why bother. FSG had better make the real estate deal work. This is such a bummer of a return of 3 small lefty shot lower rated prospects that really have not addressed what the Pens need to address. I had confidence Dubas would maximize Jake into a good deal. I was wrong. Can't put the spin on this Dubas. FSG will like the 11,000 coming to the PPG Paints arena in 2 years. I just can't give Dubas the benefit of the doubt after this nonsence.

Not only we’re the prospects small, they can’t skate lol…this is a good summary of the underwhelming return…GMs are laughing at Dubas

HockeyBuzz.com - Ryan Wilson - Penguins opt for quantity over quality in big misstep

www.hockeybuzz.com

 

[Sideline]

Eller is smart player to add if you are a contender. He's a key contributor on one of the best penalty kills in the league, strong on faceoffs, not totally useless in the offensive zone, and he's got a ton of playoff experience.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Dan Kingirski wouldnt know how to pour piss in a boot if the instructions were on the heel.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

The real question is who are we signing next year

Guentzel and Reinhart.......

 

[wej20]

The real question is who are we signing next year

Mark Giordano, Max Pacioretty and Patrick Maroon.

 

[SomeDude]

I wouldn't hate re-signing Ned, but I also want to see what Blomqvist looks like in the NHL, so I lean more towards trading Ned if we'll use Blomqvist.

How about using both and trading Jarry.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Too bad Jake didn't learn to take a little less and be loyal from Sid

Little does everyone know Jake did the team a favor and won't sign here this season or elsewhere and come back signed next season on the cheap with a stronger base of young guys that will be fighting for roster spots and more cap space to see if they can fill out a competitive roster. Basically free assets on a washed season

Also tanking this season looks bad on Sullivan and while he seems ironclad is our best shot of getting him out.

In all actuality Jake is the real genius here and doing Sid and the team the best thing and the only real shot for the core moving forward.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Mark Giordano, Max Pacioretty and Patrick Maroon.

Maroon then gets healthy scratched once he shows the nerve to actually stand up for himsel, traded after he talks to the media, see Cole comma Ian.

 

[IcedCapp]

Guys Jake isn't even signed. We weren't going to get much and I stated 2 days ago many of you were going to be disappointed in the return.

The return wasn't even that bad considering and they are likely more ready now prospects then some quality we may also have thrown at us but turned away.

A prospect that is ready in 3 years does nothing for the "rebuild" so many of you talk about as Crosby will be retiring and doesn't fall into the rebuild timeline. That player will be irrelevant when it does come to a true rebuild and won't even be apart of the process.

Go hug your wives or boyfriends

Can i hug my wife’s boyfriend?

 

[WayneSid9987]

They absolutely won't bottom out with Geno/Sid here.

I don't understand how people can't see that

They already are bottoming out before your very own eyes.
Sucks to suck but they suck and it ain't gonna get better folks.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Can i hug my wife’s boyfriend?

If he makes you feel special sure

 

[IcedCapp]

The ask should be “yes please”

If he makes you feel special sure

I’m his special little boy

 

[Turin]

We're better off keeping Smith, hoping he rebounds, and trading him at the draft than trying to deal him now. You're looking at no higher than a 3rd.

I simply don’t want him on my hockey team

 

[Smasher]

FWIW

 

[pistolpete11]

Please don't fall into the

"Im leaving the message board if they do this or I'm not watching if they do that group."

There's like 10 people here that have threatened us with that multiple times and yet still here

Your better than that : )

I'm only better than that because I have conviction.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

uh yeah. We had Kessel, Perron (obv didn’t fit but good player), Kunitz, Hornqvist, Neal directly before Jake. All acquired outside of the org.

I know what you’re saying about the trash we would throw with Sid, but just saying that Guentzel would be the 3rd guy on that list to me behind Phil and prime Kunitz as an individual talent. I appreciate his fit here and the way he figured out a way to play with Sid like few else, but I never was blown away by his talent level or individual play. I think as you lost 87 and 71 he wasn’t the right guy to groom young Cs next to. I would be livid at this trade if I viewed him as a Pastrnak level superstar, but I don’t.

Replacing top 6 wingers can be be done.

Precisely. It took a f***ing decade for the Pens to find a legit 1st line winger who clicked with Sid and produced when it mattered.

"Prime" Kunitz was a great complementary guy, but he never sniffed Guentzel. His career high was 68 points with absolute prime Crosby, he topped out at 5 goals in a single playoff run (only scored a single goal in 24 playoff games in '09), and always left you wanting more offensively.

Characterizing him as some run of the mill "top 6 forward" we can replace at the drop of a hat is ridiculous. Wait and see what Crosby's linemates look like going forward.

 

[IcedCapp]

I'm only better than that because I have conviction.

Ron Swanson would be proud

 

[pensfan71]

FWIW

Looks good

 

[pistolpete11]

Hmmm

Do I believe Friedman (I think it was Friedman) saying nobody was interested in Eller?

Or DK, but what seems more reasonable to me?

 

[wej20]

FWIW

Hopefully a good AHL season next year, adjusting to the smaller ice.

 

[IcedCapp]

Hopefully a good AHL season next year, adjusting to the smaller ice.

f*** it, we’re doing it live. NHL top-6 next year.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

FWIW

Okay, cool. Liiga scoring is hard to quantify compared to other leagues, so the idea that he's having the best season for his age in over 30 years is kind of cool.

 

[Snooki Stackhouse]

I think if the first wasn't conditional I'd be completely fine with the trade. Koivunen seems like a good prospect and Ponomarev seems like he could immediately come up to the NHL, seems like a better prospect than anyone they have currently in Wilkes. Just wish it was a first, but I'm not going to get bent out of shape here. Guentzel was gone, and they got something for him.