GDT: Pens 2024 Trade Deadline Thread: Jake Shake Talk here

[66-30-33]

I think Smith at 50% should get more than that. A 50 point winger that is playoff proven at 2.5MM is a very attractive piece.

Depends on the prospect.

 

[Epic Neal Time]

If we take that package and apply it elsewhere:

Kakko + Othmann
Kakko > Hoglander
Lekkerimaki > Othmann

Necas + Koivunen
Necas >>> Hoglander
Lekkerimaki >>> Koivunen

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

What does Avs have for Jake? we could include Ned in the deal with Jake at 50%.

Man the Avs/Knights would be godly.

Ritchie but doubt they would want to move him. They wouldn't have a choice though

 

[SomeDude]

Maybe the holdup is that Dubas is finally interviewing GM candidates to guide the team during these trying times.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Trade Jake to Dallas and along with the return get 1 or 2 amateur scouts in the deal!!

 

[The Old Master]

Jake at 50% retention, and Ruhwedel for Kakko, Schneider and a 1st and I drive Jake to the Rangers

i want gabe,and what ever else they want to add and hey can keep their first

 

[66-30-33]

Maybe the holdup is that Dubas is finally interviewing GM candidates to guide the team during these trying times.

Multi tasking, he's also trying to find a new coach for when he fires Sullivan.

Oh wait, he's never leaving.

 

[Turin]

Good. They don't pay this, tell them to pound sand.

I think this is what it will take for Van to beat NYR or Carolina

 

[Bishop7979]

I think Smith at 50% should get more than that. A 50 point winger that is playoff proven at 2.5MM is a very attractive piece.

Aren't their only two retention spots avail and one goes to petry. So 1. They will not offer retention on smith till Jake is traded because retention on him is priority 1 if it is needed to bring back the best return. 2. Do we want to be losing 2.5 mil next season for smiths retention to maybe get a 4th added to a deal?

 

[SomeDude]

Multi tasking, he's also trying to find a new coach for when he fires Sullivan.

Oh wait, he's never leaving.

Mike Sullivan also happens to be the only GM candidate being interviewed.

He needs more influence on this team.

 

[PensPlz]

Good. They don't pay this, tell them to pound sand.

I think it's the other GMs telling Dubas to pound sand, and Dubas sitting around with his pouty face on which is why he hasn't done -anything- yet despite having a half dozen players that could be dealt in order to help this team moving forward.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Lol, we do.

Price is high. THAT return makes sense to move Guentzel.

Or...he's reading HF and reporting that. Which wouldn't be the first time a "journalist" has done that.

Isnt that all Kan Dingirski ever does since he knows shit all about f*** and nobody likes him?

 

[Ryder71]

Good. They don't pay this, tell them to pound sand.

Heck IF that's even a remote possibility I'd even give a camp dump and 50% retention as well as a late rounder.

 

[Deport Ogie]

Another of my favorite things during TDL time is when 'insiders' are on the tweet box sharing information that is speculative at best and almost certainly each teams' FO negotiating through media and how it leads directly to fans of Team A or B or C being personally offended at the rumor.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think it's the other GMs telling Dubas to pound sand, and Dubas sitting around with his pouty face on which is why he hasn't done -anything- yet despite having a half dozen players that could be dealt in order to help this team moving forward.

I am absolutely stunned that you believe this. You're always such an optimistic and uplifting poster!

 

[Ryder71]

I think it's the other GMs telling Dubas to pound sand, and Dubas sitting around with his pouty face on which is why he hasn't done -anything- yet despite having a half dozen players that could be dealt in order to help this team moving forward.

A half dozen guys who won't net much. He has to get a deal with Jake right.

 

[SomeDude]

What if we were willing to include Harkins with Jake. Is there even a group of assets in the league that could merit such a return?

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Never seen this much drama around a potential TDL deal with pretty much zero detailed reporting so he’s def getting re-signed IMO

 

[Andy99]

Lol, we do.

Price is high. THAT return makes sense to move Guentzel.

Or...he's reading HF and reporting that. Which wouldn't be the first time a "journalist" has done that.

Here’s the thing: Dubas isn’t getting this for Jake and he’s not getting Nikishin lol…so if he doesn’t move a little, Jake won’t be traded…

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I think the idea of not trading in your division is such an antiquated one. If a division rival is giving you an A+ package and all other packages are B- at best, you'd be stupid not to take the division rival's offer.

The only exception would be in a case where you're maybe trading a franchise-level player (ie. if Sid wanted out when he was 25 years old) and you don't want that terrorizing you for the next decade+.

 

[Sideline]

Aren't their only two retention spots avail and one goes to petry. So 1. They will not offer retention on smith till Jake is traded because retention on him is priority 1 if it is needed to bring back the best return. 2. Do we want to be losing 2.5 mil next season for smiths retention to maybe get a 4th added to a deal?

Teams have 3 retention slots, but that scarcity is why I would demand a premium to use one of them for multiple years.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Kyle Dubas has to be calculated here. I'm not worried about any timing. Teams want Jake.

He has to make sure he gets the best ready now prospects he can, not so much the best prospect.

He isn't giving up on this core yet

 

[Bishop7979]

Teams have 3 retention slots, but that scarcity is why I would demand a premium to use one of them for multiple years.

Good to know, thanks, don't know why I thought it was only 2.
It's scary to think that between j.js buy out, petry and possibly smith retentions we could be short 5 mil to start the off-season ...

 

[66-30-33]

Here’s the thing: Dubas isn’t getting this for Jake and he’s not getting Nikishin lol…so if he doesn’t move a little, Jake won’t be traded…

Come on Carolina, buckle and give us your top prospect!

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Dawg we not getting Nikishin come on