GDT: Pens 2024 Trade Deadline Thread: Jake Shake Talk here

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
Status
Not open for further replies.
What an awful day for those out west not named Vegas. I can't see anyone beating them if they are “healthy” come playoff time.
 
I don’t understand not trading Nedjelkovic but I completely understand not trading Smith. Prices stunk and you still have him for next year, flip him when the return would be better. They paid a 3rd for him, eating half of his deal only to get a 3rd back would be awful.

Overall, it’s fascinating how low prices were at the deadline. Look at the Hertl deal, that seems insanely cheap for the caliber of player he is. Hard to get too critical about the Guentzel deal at this point after seeing the rest of the deals at the deadline.
Again, I think the plan to try to sign Neds. Or if they still want to push for the playoffs, they still need the solid backup.

Prices were solid for awhile - Top 6 wings getting a 2nd + 4th - was about the going rate then it cratered. But I think they saw that or weren't getting good offers for Smith and decided to keep him for the exact reasons he outlined. I'd rather keep him for 20 relatively meaningless games in hopes that he plays better and ups the value or just becomes a better trade chip come June.

Hertl is 30 and signed for 7 more years. He was signed by Doug Wilson as well. When SJS were willing to deal Burns, Karlsson, Meier, and now Hertl while not looking to bring back the likes of Thornton and Pavelski, I think that signals they are ready to tear down and rebuild in a new era. Maybe not unlike Kessel in Toronto when they traded him.
 
Sharks got what they needed in a Hertl deal, which was a ton of picks and a prospect. I don't think Kyle did a bad job at all with Guentzel. In Hertl's case - he isn't some bloke making it hard to re-sign him.

A key part in Dubas' presser is that they approached Guentzel in the off season and they didn't want to engage in Jake's camp. So really, Guentzel never planned to re-sign with the Penguins at all and Crosby being all sad about it means jack a shit when a bloke doesn't want to stay and has maintained it all season.
They got a pick and a prospect (Vegas' 32OV from last year).

They gave up Hertl, 2 3rd's, and ate 17% of the contract for 7 years.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Empoleon8771
Can't wait to see Sullivan's tactial genius next season:

1 scoring line with the Two-Headed Dragon
3 Turtle lines...
I hope Sullivan just completely shits the bed the rest of the way and makes it nearly impossible to keep after the season, like so bad that it's repeatedly mentioned by every hockey analyst that Sullivan should be on the hot seat and they fire his ass at the end of the season.
 
Seems like people would rather have less now for Eller and Smith than next year just so you can say something happened. That’s mismanagement.

This is exactly it. The market sucks but people are mad Dubas didn’t sell more.

The only guy they’re not going to be able to trade for value because they didn’t move him today is Nedjelkovic. And instead, they moved Hellberg for a little bit of something.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rave7215
Because it was reported that teams were asking. Eller's having a good year, there was interest, and honestly, why keep him as 3C? Why not move him so we can evaluate what we got or who we have in WB/S?
But a lot of stuff was reported that just turned out to be blatantly untrue. Also look at the prices of players that went today. How do you know Eller is bringing back more than Zucker? Because maybe according to reporters teams asked about him?
 
This org has been patient since like 2020… come on lol Dubas can’t say he’s trying a fast retool and barely make a move.
What would you have him do? Trade Smith for a 3rd and retain 50%? That's just dumb obviously there wasn't crap out there as you can see by all of the trades that happened nobody got rich. I don't like him either but, it's not like it matters what happens at the deadline when contenders don't want to give anything for someone who isn't producing. Retool will happen in the off season hopefully. You didn't really believe it was happening today did you???
 
The Fin intrigues me. He went from 28 points last season to 55 points this season, albeit in 5 more games in the finnish elite league but it's a noticeable improvement from 19 to 20.
And another thing is that Koivunen will be connecting with former teammate Joel Blomquist who toiled in Wilkes-Barre-Scranton and looks to be the heir apparent to Jarry when the time comes
 
But a lot of stuff was reported that just turned out to be blatantly untrue. Also look at the prices of players that went today. How do you know Eller is bringing back more than Zucker? Because maybe according to reporters teams asked about him?
I honestly don't care what Eller's value is because I don't think a shut-down 3C has any value on this team as is. What is the point of keeping Eller? So we can run the same losing system and play ineffectual Sullivan hockey?

Why do we need more old vets on this squad, especially since we just traded Jake for a bunch of mid-to-bottom 6ers?
 
I don’t understand not trading Nedjelkovic but I completely understand not trading Smith. Prices stunk and you still have him for next year, flip him when the return would be better. They paid a 3rd for him, eating half of his deal only to get a 3rd back would be awful.

Overall, it’s fascinating how low prices were at the deadline. Look at the Hertl deal, that seems insanely cheap for the caliber of player he is. Hard to get too critical about the Guentzel deal at this point after seeing the rest of the deals at the deadline.
Hertl wasn't having the best season, has knee injury issues and is currently injured at the moment with, wait for it.....knee issues.

I think Grier got an insane return for a bloke that has a very short life span after this deal. He's 30 (31 this year) and his knees are f***ed.
 
Well he's young and the Pens need a serious infusion of youth at ELC with all the Greybeards haling a lot of cash! Not sure if Koivunen will ever be a top 6 forward but has the potential
See for yourself
And the thing with Koivunen is he's signed and has progressed all 3 years since he was drafted in the 2nd Round by Carolina in 2021. Is he ready for the NHL? That's the question?
:thumbu::nod:
 
It's gonna be so funny when the Canucks get bounced because Boeser isn't shooting at like 25% come playoff time when they could've had Jake for a 1st that would've been like 27th overall and Lekkerimaki who probably does nothing for that team in their current window.
 
nobody is interested in Eller this year or next lol

Yeah Friedman explicitly said that no one wanted him when Marek asked about him in a podcast earlier this week.

The only guy they could have moved for value that they didn’t was Nedjelkovic, and it seems like it wouldn’t have brought back much.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rave7215
We couldn’t get enough for Jake because he was on a 1 year deal.

He was on a 1 year deal because I didn’t want to extend him.

This was all about Dubas getting rid of a talented player for the sake of doing it.

He might be worse than Hextall. At least he didn’t look at our second best player and decide to run him out of the organization.
 
I have to imagine this is it for Kessel, no?
He'll poke around in July/Aug. I think the issue was, he looked f***ing gassed halfway through a workout in Vancouver a couple of days ago. Of what practical use was he going to be?
 
Edstrom isn't even that great of a prospect either, he was taken 32nd but really that's a mid 2nd round type of lad for being projected to be a bottom 6 talent at best.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad