Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

[Andy99]

Penguins are rumored to be interested in buying Hockeybuzz.

Probably to avoid having to read those horrible Eklund rumors about Malkin to Chicago…

 

[Gurglesons]

Yeah unfortunately it isn't exactly easy to find. There's a filter button on the right side of the app:

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And then if you scroll all the way down, you can customize how many games you want to filter by. You have to press the blue add button first though before you can filter.

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I guess my point was more that you are defending Jarry and the only players below him that played 50+ games were Korpi, Ersson, Georgiev and Vasi.

 

[SomeDude]

Id rather they be interested in buying a new coach

I’d take Eklund over Sully at this point for the entertainment factor. Just a guy sitting in the shadows saying that Crosby’s line will be coming up next (E4) and then the 4th line actually goes out.

 

[Tom Hanks]

I’d take Eklund over Sully at this point for the entertainment factor. Just a guy sitting in the shadows saying that Crosby’s line will be coming up next (E4) and then the 4th line actually goes out.

We could hire @Andy99 as coach.

Every pregame speech ….. ……

 

[Kiith Nabaal]

I guess my point was more that you are defending Jarry and the only players below him that played 50+ games were Korpi, Ersson, Georgiev and Vasi.

Four other starters by season's end, which brings the total of goalies to 20 with 50+ games. That means 12 other teams had goalies who played less and are likely rookies who are developing, backups or had to split time for some other reason. It also means there are at least 16 other goalies who are either as good or worse (mostly worse). As I said, I don't think that paints a good picture that any other goalie who may be available would necessarily be better.

If we can fix whatever problems Jarry is having at the end of the season, his stats will remain pretty high. I personally think the mental stuff can be worked out. Fluery eventually seemed to get a grip on it.

I think it would be great if Blomqvist is ready sometime next season. I would love to see us have developed more NHL-ready prospects. I'm not particularly attached to Jarry, it's just that I personally don't think we will do better. Maybe we could even play Blomqvist at the end of the season if not at the start if it seems like Jarry is falling off the rails.

 

[The Old Master]

Add talent as quickly as possible.

Wonder if something like Jarry + our 2 2nds for 10ov + Schmid/Dawsf been greaton would work. Gets you Tij Iginla or possibly Berkley Catton or Helenius into the system.

Trade Smith and POJ for a 3rd each and it could be a decent draft day.

if it was last years or next years draft, that would have been great. but we would need to get into the top 5 this year.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Nah. Drouin is in the Duchene camp.

Duchene had 65 points in 80 games last year, I wouldn't complain about that at all.

The lesson from the Duchene situation was that Duchene was incorrectly viewed as bad. Teams let their view of him be clouded by his awful contract.

 

[Gurglesons]

Duchene had 65 points in 80 games last year, I wouldn't complain about that at all.

The lesson from the Duchene situation was that Duchene was incorrectly viewed as bad. Teams let their view of him be clouded by his awful contract.

I think the lesson with both Duchene and Drouin is that if you want to be successful they are the type of players you pay when they are low, not when they want salary and term.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the lesson with both Duchene and Drouin is that if you want to be successful they are the type of players you pay when they are low, not when they want salary and term.

If you can get multiple years of that performance for salary and term, I don't know why you say no to that.

Any UFA contract is good as long as they out-perform their cap hit for like half of the years in the deal.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I don't trust Drouin at all. In terms of talent, I think he is probably a top-25 player in this league. You all remember how great he was for TB against us in the playoffs. We had no answer for him. He dominated. But he checks out. A lot. Not his fault, he has had issues and his dedication to this sport has been questioned.

We can't have that level of question mark in the top six. We can't spend our top-six upgrade dollars on a left-shooting playmaking winger who plays soft.

I don't even think Colorado should bring him back, although it sounds like they might. If I am them, and I already have MAJOR winger issues in Landeskog and Nichushkin, there is no way I am bringing Drouin back.

Not my problem.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't trust Drouin at all. In terms of talent, I think he is probably a top-25 player in this league. You all remember how great he was for TB against us in the playoffs. We had no answer for him. He dominated. But he checks out. A lot. Not his fault, he has had issues and his dedication to this sport has been questioned.

We can't have that level of question mark in the top six. We can't spend our top-six upgrade dollars on a left-shooting playmaking winger who plays soft.

I don't even think Colorado should bring him back, although it sounds like they might. If I am them, and I already have MAJOR winger issues in Landeskog and Nichushkin, there is no way I am bringing Drouin back.

Not my problem.

I tend to agree with this for the most part, I was just saying I'd pick Drouin over Teravainen or DeBrusk. Robertson from Toronto is the guy I really want to go after to fill Guentzel's spot with Crosby.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I tend to agree with this for the most part, I was just saying I'd pick Drouin over Teravainen or DeBrusk. Robertson from Toronto is the guy I really want to go after to fill Guentzel's spot with Crosby.

I don't want Teravainen either, and DeBrusk is headed to Western Canada imo. Alberta, either team.

If it were up to me, Drew O'Connor is Crosby's LW to start camp. See if that late-season chemistry sticks long term.

I would LOVE Nick Robertson. That is the type of player we need more of. Robertson would play RW with Bunting and Malkin if it were up me, but I would also try him on a third scoring line with a Yager or a Poulin or a Ponomarev.

I don't know if trades between the Leafs and Pens are going to happen until Shanahan is fired.

 

[Coastal Kev]

hi

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

I see so many people mention Nick Robertson. Why are the Leafs making him available? With all their massive contracts, they need more players like him. They're not going to want to offload him. Not for what the Pens could offer.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I see so many people mention Nick Robertson. Why are the Leafs making him available? With all their massive contracts, they need more players like him. They're not going to want to offload him. Not for what the Pens could offer.

He apparently wants out due to a lack of usage and the Leafs seem to not be super high on him.

He's a RFA so he's not going to be cheap.

 

[Gurglesons]

I see so many people mention Nick Robertson. Why are the Leafs making him available? With all their massive contracts, they need more players like him. They're not going to want to offload him. Not for what the Pens could offer.

They aren’t. And if they do they likely are packaging him in a deal for a legit D or goaltender Ala Vilardi last offseason.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

CapFriendly is dead in July. That sucks.

Capitals reach agreement to purchase CapFriendly website

It won’t happen until July, but according to multiple sources, the Washington Capitals have reached an agreement to purchase the outstanding CapFriendly website.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[66-30-33]

CapFriendly is dead in July. That sucks.

Capitals reach agreement to purchase CapFriendly website

It won’t happen until July, but according to multiple sources, the Washington Capitals have reached an agreement to purchase the outstanding CapFriendly website.

www.sportsnet.ca

WashingtonUnfriendly.

They would buy it just because it says "Cap" in it.

 

[BusinessGoose]

They just wanted to bask in the glory of trading Orpik to COL, letting them buy him out, then re-sign him to the Craps at a significant discount.

 

[SomeDude]

Now FSG is going to buy HF and shut it down to put an end to the soiling of Michael Sullivan's good name.

 

[Tom Hanks]

hi

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Now FSG is going to buy HF and shut it down to put an end to the soiling of Michael Sullivan's good name.

Are we really against that at this point?

 

[Jag68Sid87]

This is my issue with Dubas’ comments.

You can’t have Mike Sullivan and get younger. It’s a paradox.

When we inevitably sign a bunch of 28 year old AHL level players instead of playing who we have I will not be shocked.

Mike Sullivan does not want young players. He NEEDS young players. He has won with young players.

That is the thing.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I see so many people mention Nick Robertson. Why are the Leafs making him available? With all their massive contracts, they need more players like him. They're not going to want to offload him. Not for what the Pens could offer.

I think the Leafs want to make room for Easton Cowan, for one thing. Another thing is Bobby McMann passed Robertson on their depth chart last season. Also, they are trying to bring back Max Domi and Tyler Bertuzzi. A forward has to go, at least.

I think Jarnkrok and Robertson are going to be dealt by Toronto this off-season. Marner is likely not going anywhere IMO. I mean, if true that the Leafs will not ask him to waive until they get an offer they like, then they are not trading him. If you WANT a player traded, you aggressively shop him. Especially if he has a massive cap hit and is entering the final year of his deal (with a NMC to boot).

Unless the Leafs accept a deal that they don't really like, Marner is staying IMO.

 

[LOGiK]

WashingtonUnfriendly.

They would buy it just because it says "Cap" in it.

Seriously? Why in the world would they do that?
What do they plan to with it? Use the maths for themselves? or popularize the site? or shut it down?
Seems super weird.