GDT: Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

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[Pens1566]

Yeah, I feel like anyone with working eyes this year could tell this bottom 6 doesn't work, and yet zero effort was made to fix it besides waiving Kapanen. And that probably wouldn't have even happened if our cap wasn't already jacked up.

And on top of that, we haven't had a tenacious bottom 6 since 2017, maybe. Hextall is part of the problem, but he's not the source of the bad bottom 6.

Right. If we'd have had the cap space to activate Rutta, he never would have been waived.

 

[The Old Master]

Moving Zucker is essentially waving the white flag on the season unless you make another addition elsewhere or call up someone from WBS and said call-up actually makes an immediate impact

there is a better chance of that, than us doing anything in the playoffs

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Jeannot playing 12 minutes a game would definitely change that all by himself. No doubt no doubt.


The Pens have a glaring weakness on LD compared to the good teams in the East. Especially when POJ plays like a rookie.

I like POJ, but I do agree that he will take time to develop. I do like him paired with Rutta though, as a stabilizing force. We were lucky that during Letang's younger years, we had Gonchar.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Then it becomes a little less optimistic that they can truly plug the holes. And, I will say it loud and clear - it WILL NOT MATTER what additions are made to the bottom 6 as long as Mike Sullivan sees Jeff Carter as a 3rd line player. He should be a sheltered 4th line player or, on a cup team, your 13F. As long as Carter gets 3C minutes and responsibilities, this team will go nowhere. Additions that do NOT involves directly impacting Carter's ice time, is irrelevant.

This rings with so much truth. The thing people who are screaming for upgrades to the bottom six aren't remembering is that it would also require Sullivan to stop obsessing over Carter being our shutdown 3C.

If we'd added Jeannot/Barbashev, it would have meant Heinen or DOC would sit. Carter would still be trotted out 16 minutes a night as our all-purpose 3C and the third line likely continues to suck (just a little less than before).

Upgrading the personnel won't matter much with this coach and his stubborn usage.

 

[Slaaapshuter]

Who is the best player to acquire at the deadline at revamping your team’s defensive system?

GM Eichel maybe?

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

To be fair re: Carter's minutes they have actually been reduced a good bit lately. They seem to be coming up with a more equal split between L3 and L4.

Though it sure seems like Carter still often finds a way to be a liability in 12 minutes instead of 16. So I'm probably just splitting hairs.

 

[Lust for Life]

I wouldn't hate going into sell mode with these prices.

 

[xlm34]

I wouldn't hate going into sell mode with these prices.

Yeah between the prices and everyone in the East loading up, I wouldn’t mind selling off some of the upcoming free agents

I’m holding out some hope I get to see an awkward Kevin Weekes selfie video announcing a Chychrun trade to Pittsburgh but that price has to be astronomical.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I wouldn't hate going into sell mode with these prices.

Who do we have to sell that's worth these prices? Zucker maybe gets what Niederreiter did, and Dumoulin gets ..? He's not getting McCabe's return.

 

[Malkinstheman]

After Chychrun, Zucker and Dumo would be the best players available. I really hope they sell and then retool in the summer. The East is an absolute blood bath this year

 

[dogthateats]

GM’s are frothing at the mouth to spend draft picks on the players that aren’t good enough to play for the bubble Pittsburgh Penguins

 

[Rakell67]

Would

Players with Jeannot's skill set would be excellent here. But the organization does not want players with Jeannot's skill set.

you mean Sullivan doesn't want that skill set.

 

[Pancakes]

Genuinely no idea what Hextall possibly gets done if Sam Lafferty is part of a package that brings in a first round pick

 

[Empoleon8771]

I’m more and more thinking this team isn’t going to do anything

 

[The GM]

I’m more and more thinking this team isn’t going to do anything

Sully “we believe in this group, we owe it to them to try to get it done”

 

[SomeDude]

GM’s are frothing at the mouth to spend draft picks on the players that aren’t good enough to play for the bubble Pittsburgh Penguins

In b4 Zohora is traded for a 2nd and two 3rds.

 

[Turin]

Genuinely no idea what Hextall possibly gets done if Sam Lafferty is part of a package that brings in a first round pick

McCabe was worth a 1st by himself, don’t get this take.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Would

you mean Sullivan doesn't want that skill set.

Well, yes. But people get mad when I point that out.

But it's a problem that goes back to before Sullivan too, in all fairness.

Sully “we believe in this group, we owe it to them to try to get it done”

"Don't want to break up this great chemistry we've got going on."

 

[orby]

I agree with the general consensus...Toronto, NYR, NJ, Tampa, and Boston are gonna be heading into the playoffs absolutely loaded to the gills. Unless Hextall has some JR-level wacko move up his sleeve, the Pens getting incrementally better in a trade isn't going to put them over the top. I think they should sell and let let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I agree with the general consensus...Toronto, NYR, NJ, Tampa, and Boston are gonna be heading into the playoffs absolutely loaded to the gills. Unless Hextall has some JR-level wacko move up his sleeve, the Pens getting incrementally better in a trade isn't going to put them over the top. I think they should sell and let let the chips fall where they may.

Don't forget Carolina.. I mean people don't want to hear it, I know it sucks since we brought the core back and that Sid and Geno are having fantastic seasons, but this team will have a hard time competing come playoff time. Add Sullivan as our coach, no chance..

 

[Pancakes]

McCabe was worth a 1st by himself, don’t get this take.

I wouldn't have paid more than second for him. Think he's kinda whatever.

 

[The GM]

I wouldn't have paid more than second for him. Think he's kinda whatever.

It’s steep, but having him for two more seasons after at $2m is probably worth a late first

 

[Rakell67]

At least BOS will face the TOR/TBL winner, only one team can come out of that, if Pens get 1st WC and somehow beat CAR, then would face winner of NYR/NJD. Maybe PIT and Jarry get hot at the right time and can go on a run.

 

[eXile3]

We have a lack of assets. Let’s gather some while teams are paying crazy prices so we don’t have the same issue next year. The off season comes around and we have cap space and some actual picks/prospects

 

[dogthateats]

I think we should do something. I don’t have a great feeling if we do make the playoffs, but there is no guarantee that we make the playoffs after this year. As long as you are in the playoffs there is a small chance you can go on a hot streak and make some noise.