GDT: Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

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[Hockey4Lyfe]

I just don’t see what we can do to even get to the level that the rest of the East is currently at.

That’s why I am hoping we make forward thinking moves and not something drastic and dumb.

 

[td_ice]

I think it is amazing that Eklund continues to have people read his content after what seems like 20 years of made up rumors.

I have always wondered this myself. Until I read more of what the Eklund followers believe. It's like the blurring of fantasy and reality. They say they don't care whether it's made up or not, "it's still talking hockey".

So that's how he stays in business. Appetite for hockey talk, whether fabricated or not.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Would ownership even let hextall sell? They probably think the playoff streak is important or some bs. The they think the world of Sullivan apparently.

No but getting to the playoffs is important just ask any NHL player past and present. Anything can happen.

These same conversations were happening last year when we were up against the Rangers. 75% of the board said we were toast and that's no joke.

Turned out to be a pretty wild series

 

[dogthateats]

If you added Kane and Tarasenko to the NYR roster last year do you think we would have taken them to 7 games?

Do we get healthy Jarry, Rakell, and Crosby? It is hard to say. Kane is really good in the playoffs. Other teams scare me more. For whatever reason I think Devils, Bruins, and Canes give us much more trouble

 

[The GM]

I think it is amazing that Eklund continues to have people read his content after what seems like 20 years of made up rumors.

I don’t usually get too excited when it’s a E4, but this rumor is E3

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Who do we have to sell that's worth these prices? Zucker maybe gets what Niederreiter did, and Dumoulin gets ..? He's not getting McCabe's return.

You never know. Dumo is a Stanley Cup champion, more or less similar numbers to McCabe this year.
Ben Chiarot returned a 1st last year to Montreal, unprotected to both

You just never know what GM's are willing to pay

 

[Andy99]

It’s an E3 that we might get Edmundson, what do peeps think about this? He may come with a green jacket

Eklund lol…nope, hate the move…this guy has term on him and he’s not that good and has been injured

 

[The GM]

You never know. Dumo is a Stanley Cup champion, more or less similar numbers to McCabe this year.
Ben Chiarot returned a 1st last year to Montreal, unprotected to both

You just never know what GM's are willing to pay

Also McCabe has the same amount of playoff experience that Ron Hainsey had when he arrived here. I’m sure with 50% retained Dumo would score a late first or a couple seconds. But it doesn’t matter as he won’t be traded

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Eklund lol…nope, hate the move…this guy has term on him and he’s not that good and has been injured

Yup, terrible season and still under contract for next year. I would prefer Hextall doing nothing than him going after Joel Edmundson

Also McCabe has the same amount of playoff experience that Ron Hainsey had when he arrived here. I’m sure with 50% retained Dumo would score a late first or a couple seconds. But it doesn’t matter as he won’t be traded

It's too bad our GM has no vision and is not able to be both a seller and buyer!!

 

[ColePens]

S E L L

Sid/Geno are still playing well enough. The rest of the team SUCKS minus a few people. Sell sell sell and do a quick turnaround with youth/elderly stars.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

S E L L

Sid/Geno are still playing well enough. The rest of the team SUCKS minus a few people. Sell sell sell and do a quick turnaround with youth/elderly stars.

110%

 

[AuroraBorealis]

JT Miller @ 50% and Schenn for McGinn, Ruhwedel, 2024 1st, 2023 3rd and Puustinen (cap hits are petty even).

Miller's out week-to-week. That usually means like a month.
Not sure if that changes anything for you but just throwing it out there.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Miller's out week-to-week. That usually means like a month.
Not sure if that changes anything for you but just throwing it out there.

I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't change anything for Vancouver and them having any interests in that package while having to retain 50% of Miller's salary for the next 4 years lol

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't change anything for Vancouver and them having any interests in that package while having to retain 50% of Miller's salary for the next 4 years lol

It's 2 separate contracts. You can only retain on this year.

And I was talking about the user's interest in the player. What I said is worth mentioning since he'd be unavailable for like half our remaining games and we're on the playoff line.

 

[Ryder71]

Miller's out week-to-week. That usually means like a month.
Not sure if that changes anything for you but just throwing it out there.

I like Miller quite a bit, however that contract is awfully long and at 8 million per? Hard pass! I think it's better we actually sell some players off as I've been saying since before last year's trade deadline. I doubt they will at this point but that's the course I would take.

 

[dogthateats]

McGinn has been added to Seravalli’s board. There are a lot of intriguing players on it. I only skimmed it and I think the only other mention of the Pens is linking us to Bonino

 

[Andy99]

We need to stop considering old third line centers who can’t skate…they should not be on our wish list lol…

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

It's 2 separate contracts. You can only retain on this year.

And I was talking about the user's interest in the player. What I said is mentioning since he'd be unavailable for like half our remaining games and we're on the playoff line.

Got you. Forgot it was a seperate deal that's only kicking in next season.

Anyway, not sure if his attitude would be ideal here with the vets we have in the room.

 

[HandshakeLine]

They were talking about this the other day on one of the talk shows. You have a GM, who isn't the owners guy. And you have a coach, who isn't the GM's guy.

So how much are these guys, and owners, on the same page?

If they miss playoffs or fail to win a round, it wouldn't surprise me to see clean sweep of management.

It is wild to me to buy a team and then not want to deal with them at all. FSG closed the deal Dec. 9, 2021.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

we bout to do some one stop shopping in arizona.

 

[molon labe]

I get your thinking but they aren't going into the playoffs dumping Zucker for a 1st.

Doesn't set a good example for Geno or Sid.

If I am Geno/Sid I am livid they just got rid of one of our top 6 wingers.

If you freed up Zucker's cap space you could turn around and get a player like Erik Karlsson. Is that the move? I mean, I'd trade Petry out for him in a nanosecond...but I'm just saying. Guys like Karlsson, even [and most likely] retained still have a very small window of teams to go to.

*** Why are we on that list? We're not at the cutting edge - even though we're spending like it. *** i.e. this team has the roster flexibility of a true contender - whereas we're playing like a team a year or two away. This team needs some roster and financial freedom in the worst way. I frankly fear going into the Summer when prices on things really aren't any lower - coming off Zucker/Dumo/Jarry...we end up signing a goalie who costs more and either re-signing Zucker, or Dumo, or both - and come out spending the exact same money. Raise for Jarry eats the paycut for Dumo. Zucker still gets that 5Mish deal. Would be terrible.

As far as how they'll feel - I don't think Sid would care tbh...and Geno likes Rust, no idea how attached he is to Zucker. He's not a 'shakeup' trade guy like Rust/Guentzel would be.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I like Miller quite a bit, however that contract is awfully long and at 8 million per? Hard pass! I think it's better we actually sell some players off as I've been saying since before last year's trade deadline. I doubt they will at this point but that's the course I would take.

I think he could live up to 8 mil per for a few years, since he's a tremendous PP player and would replace Jake there (unless Sully's insane). So he'd get the usage. Can play Center and give you 70+ points. He'd regress hard later and his contract doesn't match our window at all.

Depends if someone's cool with just getting him to help for a few years when we're a playoff team, while not giving a damn about the remainder of his deal when we're rebuilding.

I would use the money differently but I could see the merit in him helping improve our horrific finishing and boosting the C depth in a massive way.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

we bout to do some one stop shopping in arizona.

I wouldn't mind, cause it would be for beyong this season. Hoping for Chychrun and Vejmelka

 

[Pens1566]

Assuming VAN holds on to Miller because of the injury/timing, getting them to retain on that next deal (if they trade him post 7-1) is going to cost a fortune in assets. Hard pass.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I have no interest in Miller due to his insane contract extension. Hard pass on that.

The only player I want to spend big time assets on is Chychrun. Send out Dumoulin for a pick and figure out a way to pull off Chychrun without including Pickering. I’ve said how much I like Smith already, but Smith makes a ton of sense to trade if you’re also adding Chychrun IMO.

I’d try to do:

-McGinn and NJ’s 2023 3rd to Minnesota for Greenway
-Dunoulin to Buffalo for Vegas’ 2023 2nd
-Smith, Broz, a 2023 1st and Vegas’ 2023 2nd to Arizona for Chychrun

I think you’d have a little bit of cap space left after this while you’d still have your 2023 2nd and all of your 2024 picks. I wouldn’t look to do anything else major but you do have the ability to do a bit more. This year is a lost cause IMO so I’m just focused on adding Greenway and Chychrun for the future.