GDT: Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

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[TKalltheTime]

Standing pat is looking a lot better now isn't it?

f*** that if this was the plan, they should have sold, sold, sold haha

 

[ChaosAgent]

I'm assuming Granlund plays in the bottom six? It's great that he can pass, but who exactly is he going to pass to? Jeff Carter?

Heinen scored 15 goals at even strength last year. DOC is also showing some dangerous(ly good) speed right now.

If this buries or scratches Carter, it's worth it. I know Granlund's WAR or whatever is worse but there is no chance the 31 year old has fallen off like the 38 year old.

 

[K Fleur]

Because he clearly wasn't working there and wasn't worth $5 million going forward.

Granlund should be playing with Malkin and Zucker and Rust should get demoted to L3. That's the best way to set up the forward group.

Maybe we luck out and that line has some chemistry but Granlund ain’t any better than Rust so it will probably suck.

 

[Flying Dego]

Because he clearly wasn't working there and wasn't worth $5 million going forward.

Granlund should be playing with Malkin and Zucker and Rust should get demoted to L3. That's the best way to set up the forward group.

Have you consulted Sully on this?

Rust being off line 1 is hard enough for him.

 

[Darren McCord]

There is no way you're fixing L3 as long as Carter is on this team.

so then why make this deal?? He is locked in for 2 more years at 5mil. He took away cap flexibility for no reason.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Nashville is over the moon he is gone and they are out of his contract. He is a small floater who make this team even older.

Who is Granland gona play with? Carter? Heinen? McGinn?

McGinn got sent down.
Heinen and Carter initially is my guess.

 

[TimmyD]

Because he clearly wasn't working there and wasn't worth $5 million going forward.

Granlund should be playing with Malkin and Zucker and Rust should get demoted to L3. That's the best way to set up the forward group.

So what happens when line 3 is Heinen Carter Granlund? Should we still be happy with this trade then?

 

[Empoleon8771]

so then why make this deal?? He is locked in for 2 more years at 5mil. He took away cap flexibility for no reason.

I have said multiple times that they shouldn't have traded for Granlund without any retention.

Get it down to $3.5 million and I'm good with this, because I think his past history with Zucker in Minnesota plus his skillset would make him a really interesting addition to the 2nd line.

 

[Flying Dego]

so then why make this deal?? He is locked in for 2 more years at 5mil. He took away cap flexibility for no reason.

And if he doesn't magically gel and play to his contract we are double f*****

 

[Darren McCord]

McGinn got sent down.
Heinen and Carter initially is my guess.

So it will still be a crap 3rd line and now we have crap 4th line.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Standing pat is looking a lot better now isn't it?

Selling would have been a much better idea, f*** Blueger got a 3rd round pick. Imagine Dumo and Zucker what they would have brought back...

 

[Empoleon8771]

So what happens when line 3 is Heinen Carter Granlund? Should we still be happy with this trade then?

You shouldn't be happy with the trade in the first place because the Penguins shouldn't have traded for Granlund with no retention.

 

[penguinsnomad]

I saw someone elsewhere playing devil's advocate for going way outside the box and swinging a trade for Karlsson out of San Jose. I think I'd have been happier with that than the idiotic Granlund move we just made. (TBF, if Nashville had retained $1-2m I'd have merely said meh).

 

[Darren McCord]

I have said multiple times that they shouldn't have traded for Granlund without any retention.

Get it down to $3.5 million and I'm good with this, because I think his past history with Zucker in Minnesota plus his skillset would make him a really interesting addition to the 2nd line.

But you know he is going to be on the third line. They should have aim to get young not older

 

[66-30-33]

Granlun will be part of the Miller trade, yup.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Can’t wait for this dude to come in and play well for us.

Agreed, she should put up a lot of points with Nylander and Puustinen! Oh wait, your talking about Granlund? lol

 

[StaalForOne]

It;s not a worthwhile gamble. It's a big gamble. He's 31, and takes up almost all of the cap space we freed up. If he flops it's a compete failure, not only for this year, but for 2 more years. If he sucks that contract is going to be completely immovable without adding incentive to take the contract on.

By most advanced metrics he's underperformed relative to other Nashville players, but those metrics are generally shot based one way or another, and hes not a shoot first player. This also flys in the face of getting tougher to play against. Might as well add Bjugstad and some Lady Byng finalists at this rate.

I'd be fine with him at like $4 million.

Fans acting like he sucks because his JFresh chart is bad just reminds me of when everyone said Rakell sucked last year when the Penguins got him:

With the Rakell chart there was some underlying numbers that showed some promise, even on a bad team, and he wasn't wrong about Rakell not reallly driving play himself. He has worked out great with Malkin and Sid as noted as well.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Reunite GCRust? Is that what Sully heard?

59-87-17
16-71-67
43-77-64 (Granlund)
10-25-15

What a beaut of a forward corps. Stellar.

 

[Empoleon8771]

But you know he is going to be on the third line. They should have aim to get young not older

Yeah this trade will very likely not go well because Sullivan won't use Granlund in a way to make the trade go well. But make the 2nd line Zucker-Malkin-Granlund and I think adding Granlund would be nice. Just not at $5 million nice.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Standing pat is looking a lot better now isn't it?

Go for it or sell. Whatever the f*** Hex just did was neither.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I have said multiple times that they shouldn't have traded for Granlund without any retention.

Get it down to $3.5 million and I'm good with this, because I think his past history with Zucker in Minnesota plus his skillset would make him a really interesting addition to the 2nd line.

You simply send McGinn back with a 2nd and 5th.

 

[Josey Wales]

Have you consulted Sully on this?

Rust being off line 1 is hard enough for him.

Jr. it isn't sully that wants Rust on Line 1 That would be you Hero OCD Golden Boy

 

[Jobeycool]

I can see Granlund coming down on a breakaway just like Blueger and he shoots right at the goalie.

 

[MrBrightside]

The idea that Nashville not retaining 30% of this contract is the real issue with the trade is quite a take.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You simply send McGinn back with a 2nd and 5th.

Nah I don't think sending McGinn back in that trade would have changed anything. The issue is Granlund isn't worth $5 million. I like adding him as a player, but absolutely not at that cap hit.