GDT: Penguins @ Sharks - We Suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk @ 19.30 PST

[Jaded-Fan]

Just wait until Crosby/Malkin retire and we rebuild, we will be raging SO HARD because we lost vs winning.

Uncle Gary will just give us the next Crosby.

 

[66-30-33]

I don't think that's the case at all. It's easy to root for a shitty team comprised of a mish-mash of terrible players. It was easy to be a fan in the years after Jagr and before Sid.

Watching a team mess things up with two generational talents on the roster whose window is rapidly closing is what elicits the most powerful reactions from fans. Watching a team whose top scorer is Tarnstrom lose 18 in a row is just a good, absurd time.

Ah good ol Tarnstrom. I remember him leading us and I believe that same year the Pens were the best team in the NHL for the 2nd half with a bunch of nobodies.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I don't think that's the case at all. It's easy to root for a shitty team comprised of a mish-mash of terrible players. It was easy to be a fan in the years after Jagr and before Sid.

Watching a team mess things up with two generational talents on the roster whose window is rapidly closing is what elicits the most powerful reactions from fans. Watching a team whose top scorer is Tarnstrom lose 18 in a row is just a good, absurd time.

Three cups in the Crosby/Malkin era is not messing things up.

Go talk to Washington or Tampa Bay fans.

Anything in the next four years is gravy.

 

[66-30-33]

Three cups in the Crosby/Malkin era is not messing things up.

Go talk to Washington or Tampa Bay fans.

I want all the cups, screw the other team. They don't exist!

 

[Gurglesons]

Three cups in the Crosby/Malkin era is not messing things up.

Go talk to Washington or Tampa Bay fans.

Anything in the next four years is gravy.

Come on. Get Jaded

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Three cups in the Crosby/Malkin era is not messing things up.

Go talk to Washington or Tampa Bay fans.

Anything in the next four years is gravy.

Buddy, I'm a life-long Bills fan. I get it.

I also get that we're all stupid ass, irrationally devoted sports fans. You've got 50k posts on this forum.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Kahun with a primary assist. I hope he keeps it up. Another stupid trade from JR.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

This goalie rotation is actually painfully ridiculous

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Kahun with a primary assist. I hope he keeps it up. Another stupid trade from JR.

Heck of a forecheck and puck pursuit on that play, too.

We probably wouldn't have ever known because the coaching staff didn't trust him for whatever reason, but the guy could've been the answer to Sid and Jake's RW vacancy. He's just a way better version of Simon.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Kahun with a primary assist. I hope he keeps it up. Another stupid trade from JR.

I'm unsure if it was JR or Sully behind this one but if it was Sully that's an indictment on his roster management

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm unsure if it was JR or Sully behind this one but if it was Sully that's an indictment on his roster management

Why? Him succeeding on a shitty team has nothing to do with the fact he has tailed off here.

 

[Andy99]

 

[Jaded-Fan]

 

[66-30-33]

I'm unsure if it was JR or Sully behind this one but if it was Sully that's an indictment on his roster management

Cole
Kahun
Sprong
Riikola

Am I missing anyone?

 

[Darren McCord]

Cole
Kahun
Sprong
Riikola

Am I missing anyone?

Reaves maybe

 

[Gert B Frobe]

Why no lineups in the first post? Guessing if the team plays with no effort, why should the fans create a GDT with any effort? I can respect that.

 

[66-30-33]

Reaves maybe

He's the only guy we have had that made Wilson become tame. He never did his shit when Reaves was here due to being a fake tough guy.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Riikola's got a lot of sticks to prep for summer league stuff. He's just getting ahead of things now with all this free time.

Cole
Kahun
Sprong
Riikola

Am I missing anyone?

Reaves, but he didn't fit the style and was a stupid trade by JR in the first place. Sprong's never gonna be anything at the NHL level, and never was, because he's got all of the commitment to team play that Ho-Sang does.

I like Sully, and I still think he's been great for this team. That being said, his lineup decisions and stubborn, almost spiteful nature regarding certain guys is unbearable.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Name me a coach, even among those considered to be great, who wasn't stubborn at times and who did not get accused of playing favorites with one who two who everyone else can not believe that they kept giving ice time to.

 

[2wayPlay]

I don't think that's the case at all. It's easy to root for a shitty team comprised of a mish-mash of terrible players. It was easy to be a fan in the years after Jagr and before Sid.

Watching a team mess things up with two generational talents on the roster whose window is rapidly closing is what elicits the most powerful reactions from fans. Watching a team whose top scorer is Tarnstrom lose 18 in a row is just a good, absurd time.

Correct. When’s the last time you think I posted on a Pirates message board? I know they suck you know they suck everyone knows they stink. Nobody cares

 

[Clare2904]

Why no lineups in the first post? Guessing if the team plays with no effort, why should the fans create a GDT with any effort? I can respect that.

What the f***? You make one then. And you have a link to the lineup? No, Zip It!

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Name me a coach, even among those considered to be great, who wasn't stubborn at times and who did not get accused of playing favorites with one who two who everyone else can not believe that they kept giving ice time to.

That's why I'm not calling for Sully's head, because it's universal. He's a good coach, a smart guy, and the room listens to him. That doesn't mean he's infallible though.

Doesn't change the fact that he consistently gets line combos and scratches wrong, and there's not a whole lot of debate with regard to that discussion, I don't think. The Riikola situation alone has been enough to cost us several points this season, imo. His unwillingness to really see what we had in Kahun before we dumped him off for Sheary and some AHL-caliber dude is another sticking point. He also thinks way, way too highly of JJ despite a career's worth of evidence to show he's a bad player, and weeks' worth of evidence to show he's not the answer to Letang's pairing with Dumo out.

I defend Sully a lot. He's a good coach, and he's one of a short list of people directly responsible for this team's turnaround after the Shero/Bylsma era. He's still an arrogant, almost spiteful idiot sometimes though, and it costs this team wins we can't really afford to be pissing away.

 

[Ryder71]

Name me a coach, even among those considered to be great, who wasn't stubborn at times and who did not get accused of playing favorites with one who two who everyone else can not believe that they kept giving ice time to.

That doesn't make it right though. And that opens the door for criticism. And IMO justifiably so. Being stubborn is one thing, doing things even a casual fan would abhor because it's so obviously dumb, that's a completely different level.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

That doesn't make it right though. And that opens the door for criticism. And IMO justifiably so. Being stubborn is one thing, doing things even a casual fan would abhor because it's so obviously dumb, that's a completely different level.

It gives him a pass though in my book. Oh, you can criticize. But in the end you take it because the rest is so good overall.

I call it the Letang quotient.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Why? Him succeeding on a shitty team has nothing to do with the fact he has tailed off here.

He did well in the few opportunities he got with Malkin and Rust. Never got a chance to play with Sid. If he had a fraction of the opportunities ZAR and Simon got he would've shown why he's the better player. And even with the dip in production towards the end he still looked good.