Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

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If I squint, I think I can see a 3D schooner,
 

frightenedinmatenum2

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So only 55 players in the league currently wear neck guards.

NHL reports only 55 players wearing neck guards despite no shortage of ‘close calls’

Then again it took forever to get players to wear helmets

If a neck guard is even remotely uncomfortable or distracting, it is understandable. I don't know if it is distracting, or if it is more of a cultural thing within hockey.

Most players aren't McDavid type superstars, and there is a lot on the line for them. If a piece of equipment hinders their performance in anyway, they have to weigh the odds of it actually preventing injury vs how much it hinders their performance. It's why players don't wear full face shields unless they have a jaw injury.

The odds of there being a death or injury because of a skate slicing the neck is very low, especially if players don't deliberately do anything reckless like kick-check someone as a form of interference, which at this point will probably never happen again. It does happen sometimes that someone takes a dip in the corner and a skate comes up, but you never see people using kicks in the middle of an ongoing lane in the NHL.

Realistically, it should be mandated by the NHL and NHLPA because even if the odds of an injury or death by a skate slicing the neck are so low, the consequences are enormous. I understand players not wearing one if they feel it will hinder their game, whether justified or not. The same way that I understand players not wearing helmets back in the 80s (before composite sticks). It doesn't mean it's right, but I can see where they might be coming from.


Wow, turns out we absolutely could've seen Roy and Melnyk but heads until Dorion settled on DJ

Do you think Dorion wanted to bring in a sexy big name with management experience who Melnyk probably knew of from when he last followed hockey in the 90s?

It would be Pierre McGuire all over again.
 
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If a neck guard is even remotely uncomfortable or distracting, it is understandable. I don't know if it is distracting, or if it is more of a cultural thing within hockey.

I remember wearing them because all the minor hockey associations mandated them after Clint Malarchuk. Looked dorky but I don't recall them being in anyway uncomfortable.
 

bicboi64

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I remember wearing them because all the minor hockey associations mandated them after Clint Malarchuk. Looked dorky but I don't recall them being in anyway uncomfortable.
I grew up wearing them so they didn't feel uncomfortable. I might have felt differently if I never wore them and then after nearly 2 decades, I had to overnight.
 

Beech

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That's way better uptake than the NFL's guardian caps,

View attachment 930588

realty versus fiction. Energy dissipation needs 2 things
1) a change in state
2) a loss in mass

F* (Delta T) = M * (Delta V) force (Or change in force) times the time it is acted on (change in time) = change in momentum or Mass x velocity (Changes in either)

F= M *DV/DT = M * A mass times acceleration. Newton's law


2) so, have something break off, and energy is dissipated.. The best example is Formula 1 cars. They are designed to disintegrate on impact, with each flying piece is energy lost.

1) change in state.. say a fluid sloshing, a gas compressing, a polymer deforming... TechPro barriers in F1.

While the Guardian Cap uses foam dimples, they are not large enough. And need to be 1-2" thick. And need to be of a polymer that can deform and stay deformed, and be thus used only once.

Guardian caps need to have an outer and inner shell, with dampeners in between. That is difficult.

A 1/4 to 1/2 inch hard foam will not absorb enough energy. Soft foam will collapse and be useless. Intermediate foam will work, but needs to be designed as I wrote.
 
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At 27 years and 306 days, McDavid is also the fourth-youngest player to reach 1,000 points, behind only Gretzky (23 years, 328 days), Lemieux (26 years, 171 days) and Steve Yzerman (27 years, 291 days).
Congrats to McDavid.
Gretzky being just under 24 years of age to reach 1000 points is pretty pretty pretty good.
 
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Meanwhile….
Gustavsson gets another shutout
8-2-2 .924 so far

The goalie we gave away is playing like we hoped the goalie we traded for would.
 

Beech

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At 27 years and 306 days, McDavid is also the fourth-youngest player to reach 1,000 points, behind only Gretzky (23 years, 328 days), Lemieux (26 years, 171 days) and Steve Yzerman (27 years, 291 days).
Congrats to McDavid.
Gretzky being just under 24 years of age to reach 1000 points is pretty pretty pretty good.
I am hoping that you are 55 years old or older. If not, you don't have a feel for hockey, 1970-1990.

Watch old footage. Scoring was way easier. Goalies were not, what they are today.

The famous Guy Lafleur slapshot goal against the Bruins in 1979 (Semi finals on Cheevers in game 7), would never go in today.

McJesus is on par with Gretzky. I never thought that I would say it!

Tragically McJesus has had one team-mate in his 9 years. And he and Leon cannot amass the wins the oilers of 79-87 did.

Meanwhile….
Gustavsson gets another shutout
8-2-2 .924 so far

The goalie we gave away is playing like we hoped the goalie we traded for would.
then it leaves only one fault... US.. Maybe the Sens and their goalie coach(s). Their defense responsible coaches.

We have gone through goalies like toilette paper in flu season. Maybe, its not them.
 

Senscore

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He's like the Stephen A. Smith of hockey. Blowhard with a mic.

I can understand being a hot take merchant like SAS. Drives engagement and helps his numbers.

But Biz is a former player actively simping for a team that never wanted anything to do with him, even today. It's sad as f***.


Do you think he ever asked Mitch Marner for his autograph? Waiting in the parking lot, anxiously looking for the right Escalade, hoping Mitch would stop and roll down his window?
 
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BonHoonLayneCornell

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I can understand being a hot take merchant like SAS. Drives engagement and helps his numbers.

But Biz is a former player actively simping for a team that never wanted anything to do with him, even today. It's sad as f***.


Do you think he ever asked Mitch Marner for his autograph? Waiting in the parking lot, anxiously looking for the right Escalade, hoping Mitch would stop and roll down his window?
Ya fair enough, I just can't stand SAS. But that applies to Biz too lol.
 

Bjornar Moxnes

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The Red Wings have the 5th best PP in the league and yet has scored 14 less goals than us in the same games, insanity. They also got multiple wins from goaltending stealing the show so far and are still less than .500.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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Crazy that Pierre Dorion was the one interviewing Jacques Martin and Patrick Roy for a job in the NHL.

So glad the micky mouse organisation days are behind us.

How the f*** did we retain our sanity through that? Or did we?
 

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