Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[Stutzlaaaa]

How Helleybuck not making big bucks, Jets are boosted this season wtf .

 

[DrEasy]

How Helleybuck not making big bucks, Jets are boosted this season wtf .

He's paid in Helley bucks, whatever they are.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Canucks fans are loving Brannstrom.

 

[Senscore]

Canucks fans are loving Brannstrom.

Colorado really dropped the ball with him

 

[Xspyrit]

Colorado really dropped the ball with him

To be fair, they were already lacking size on the back end

A lot of teams have dropped the ball regarding him this offseason. The size bias is REAL. It makes sense if you only talk about the playoffs but you have to get there first…

Worst case scenario, if you become a playoffs team, just acquire a D-man with size at the deadline?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Goaltending is one if not the most difficult position in all sports. It’s much harder than it looks. Every NHLer is elite at hockey, facing them night after night is a very tall task

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but I don’t give as much credit to goalies as most fans do and opposedly, I also don’t blame them as much… Goalies will most of the time be the reflection of the team in front of them. Frankly, the job can only be really understood if you did it on a regular basis.

6 goals on 22 shots don’t necessarily mean much, it’s frustrating as you can’t like these odds but that’s what can happen when the goalie can’t repair the many mistakes in front of him. Plus, like other players, goalies can also make mistakes as hockey is a sport of error (every ex NHLer regularly says that on TV/radio)

I agree, but I don't think it needs to be stated each time. Obviously, when people use hyperbole to describe players, they're speaking relative to NHL standards and every NHLer is at a high level, so when people say Korpisalo is trash, I assume they say it knowing he's still probably 1 of the top 200 tenders in the world.

I didn't watch the game but I just looked at the Habs goals and frankly there's not even one that the goalie was supposed to save. I guess the "easiest", as crazy as it sounds, was Suzuki's point blank one timer from the slot.

Breakaway and great shot, 5 on 3 PP deflection, odd-men rush one timer, one timer from the slot on a turnover, another slot shot with all the time in the world and double screen, PP goal from Caufield in an empty net as the goalie had to cover the other post. Sabres defense was probably just terrible in that game.

But not going to complain, we need the Habs to win more games and the Sabres to lose more.

GAA and SV% don't mean much over small sample sizes and playing for certain teams can certainly affect your numbers, like I have been saying for years regarding Sens goalies. Look at Ullmark numbers right now vs when he was with the Bruins... and we're much much better defensively right now than we have been during the rebuild.

I didn't even see the highlights tbh, just looking at box scores.

I do agree to an extent that the team in front of them is a determining factor, but the few that are able to separate themselves do still exist, even if they still ride the team waves too, they're just fewer and further between these days and I do think we have one in Ullmark. It's a distinct advantage for the few teams that have it. Guys like Shesterkin, Hellybuck, Demko, Swayman, Ullmark, etc. are clearly a cut above guys like say Korpisalo and Forsberg.

 

[bicboi64]

Eller traded from pittsburgh to Washington for a 3rd and 5th in 2027.

Karlsson to Ottawa e70?

Felt weird seeing Eller traded to the Caps from Pittsburgh. I completely forgot he left the Caps in the first place lol.

Dubas said anyone except 87 is available, but still wants to contend while Crosby is still there. Really tough position to be in and I wonder when ownership will give him permission to rip off the bandaid and start the rebuild

 

[SpezDispenser]

Felt weird seeing Eller traded to the Caps from Pittsburgh. I completely forgot he left the Caps in the first place lol.

Dubas said anyone except 87 is available, but still wants to contend while Crosby is still there. Really tough position to be in and I wonder when ownership will give him permission to rip off the bandaid and start the rebuild

I'd begin the re-tool right away. Karlsson isn't doing much there anyway, but I also don't want to give much, so that's that for us.

Interesting to watch this roller coaster begin

 

[DrEasy]

I'll take Malkin off their hands...

 

[Knave]

3-1 with a point shot by the Capitals.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

It's crazy how the Caps aren't just winning, they're dominating most games this season.

 

[Knave]

They called it back. Apparently the Capitals player lightly touched Woll blocker 5-10 seconds before the shot came in.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

They called it back. Apparently the Capitals player lightly touched Woll blocker 5-10 seconds before the shot came in.

Feels like the hockey gods really want Ovie to break that record.

 

[Senscore]

Thanks a lot Washington

 

[Senovision]

Leafs frickin tie the game against the Capitals with 50 seconds left. Now the Leafs guaranteed the obligatory loser point. Irritating.
Make that 2 points...Washington blew that one.

 

[Senscore]

Well timed powerplay right at the end of regulation there.


hmmm

 

[Icelevel]

Bunch of bs
Det and tor
Bunch of bs

 

[Mr Hat]

Hard to beat TO when they have a 7 on 5 when it counts. Zebra really giving them a chance to win every game they don’t deserve.

 

[SensFactor]

Cant count on other teams to help us out....we have to win that games we have in hand starting tomm night at home against Phily

 

[Senscore]

Well I guess we'll just have to stomp those clowns again.


Gonna be a long wait until January.

 

[Game 7 Meltdown]

Can't remember who it was but a while back someone was asking about which xGF model was "more accurate", and I stumbled across a blog that looked to compare some (warning, he has his own model, so there might be some editorial bias)

For those that are interested,

Quick Comparison of Four Public Expected Goal Models – Hockey Analysis

Disappointed to discover that "xGF model" write-up had nothing to do with an ex girlfriend who was a model.

From the expected goals model angle, it's pretty darn interesting. These analytical types are a whole lot smarter than I am. Thanks, Micklebot

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not sure where to put this , but Pnep pasted the Sens media guide.

NHL Team Media Guides

Last couple of years I have been able to find links here on the board, usually at the start of the NHL season of PDF format Media Guides for every team. I haven't seen the link this year yet. Anyone have a link to 2017-2018 Media Guides?

forums.hfboards.com

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[Micklebot]

Not sure where to put this , but Pnep pasted the Sens media guide.

NHL Team Media Guides

Last couple of years I have been able to find links here on the board, usually at the start of the NHL season of PDF format Media Guides for every team. I haven't seen the link this year yet. Anyone have a link to 2017-2018 Media Guides?

forums.hfboards.com

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It's weird, they used to post these on the NHL website, there was even a page with links to the previous few years, but a while back they just sort of stopped (or at least they stopped making them publicly accessible)

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Micklebot]

Disappointed to discover that "xGF model" write-up had nothing to do with an ex girlfriend who was a model.

From the expected goals model angle, it's pretty darn interesting. These analytical types are a whole lot smarter than I am. Thanks, Micklebot

As an aside, David Johnson, the blogger who posted this, was one of the first guys publishing advanced stats along with behind the net back in the early 2010's, when Corsi was big he was pushing goal based metrics as superior once the sample was big enough. He stopped publishing for a while because he got hired by a team, but I guess he's back (which likely means no longer working for a team I suppose)