Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: We suck again summer edition

[ChaosAgent]

Just inflate Granlund assists by putting him on the first line for the first quarter of the season and get a second round pick back. Or a player swap. It’s much better than seeing him bought out for the next 4 years.

Who is going out of their way to trade for Granlund on December 2nd? Who is going out of their way to trade for anyone? And isn't signalling "hey this guy's doing great let's trade him" telling the market you actually think he sucks?

Aside from that I think Granlund-Sid-Rakell could be decent.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

The other thing about playing Granlund in the top six that occurs to me is that LW is more or less his least-familiar position, yeah? So on top of everything else he'd be kinda outta position.

Oh god... unless they have him centering L2...

 

[ChaosAgent]

The other thing about playing Granlund in the top six that occurs to me is that LW is more or less his least-familiar position, yeah? So on top of everything else he'd be kinda outta position.

Oh god... unless they have him centering L2...

Hockey sense should be his calling card. His only one. If there is a guy who has no business being an inverted winger, it's him.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Hockey sense should be his calling card. His only one. If there is a guy who has no business being an inverted winger, it's him.

Yeah but with the way he can shoot... as a lefty playing RW he can take advantage of opening up on some great angles and really rip it!

 

[Wattsburgh]

Who is going out of their way to trade for Granlund on December 2nd? Who is going out of their way to trade for anyone? And isn't signalling "hey this guy's doing great let's trade him" telling the market you actually think he sucks?

Aside from that I think Granlund-Sid-Rakell could be decent.

Ideally or more so, hopefully, a young team needing a veteran presence. He’s a versatile forward (yes I know he didn’t show any of that during his stint here) that can help a young team out. What has been repeated to death by posters here and everywhere, is simply a case of the wrong fit. I do not think Granlund is done with hockey.

But good question overall since his play was so bad. We set ourselves back from that second down to a 5th or possibly us having to send something in a cap dump (although I think this is an overreaction). But I do think we can muster up an offseason roster, Sullivan’s or not, that can increase his trade value to at least back to where it was a few months ago.

We could have Guentzel-Crosby-…

Why not try this first oppose to seeing another 4 years of a buyout when Jack Johnson is almost finished lol.

 

[Turin]

Waive Carter, and or buyout Granlund. Sign Bunting or Bertuzzi, Kampf, see what Winnipeg wants for any of their big guns.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Waive Carter, and or buyout Granlund. Sign Bunting or Bertuzzi, Kampf, see what Winnipeg wants for any of their big guns.

I like what I saw from Bertuzzi, I think he would be a solid signing.
Barbashev is another I wanted at the deadline, I hope we are in the mix

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Soucy at 2.5M and Barbashev at 4.2M sound good to me. If we're still hurting for depth, and had enough money, I'd probably be fine with Hathaway at 2M per, but not for 4 years.

Also, side note, but I hope ERod gets a 3.7M payday. That would be well deserved for him after years of over-performance and getting underpaid.

Edit: is it just me, or do the goalies on that list seem well underpaid?

I think it has something to do with how goalies are just all over the place. Very few goalies who stay consistent every year.

Vas and Helley realistically are the 2 goalies that fit this bill the last couple years.

Forward UFAs

Barbashev Bertuzzi & Bunting interest me the most.
I think they all bring a little something we could use.

Taresenko if he actually comes to 5 million for 3 to 4 years.

If we trade a young LD a Soucy for 3 years at 2.5 to 3 million would be nice.

I like what I saw from Bertuzzi, I think he would be a solid signing.
Barbashev is another I wanted at the deadline, I hope we are in the mix

Haha.

Ye my 2 biggest UFA I want as well. Either or. If we somehow got both I'd give Granlund away for free / pay a draft pick like a 3rd. I don't care if it's bad asset management.

Barbashev and Bertuzzi would be way better than whatever a 3rd would give us.

 

[Sideline]

Ideally or more so, hopefully, a young team needing a veteran presence. He’s a versatile forward (yes I know he didn’t show any of that during his stint here) that can help a young team out. What has been repeated to death by posters here and everywhere, is simply a case of the wrong fit. I do not think Granlund is done with hockey.

But good question overall since his play was so bad. We set ourselves back from that second down to a 5th or possibly us having to send something in a cap dump (although I think this is an overreaction). But I do think we can muster up an offseason roster, Sullivan’s or not, that can increase his trade value to at least back to where it was a few months ago.

We could have Guentzel-Crosby-…

Why not try this first oppose to seeing another 4 years of a buyout when Jack Johnson is almost finished lol.

I think Granlund makes a lot of sense for Chicago. They have the cap space and timeline of cheap kids where his contract isn't a concern for them and they are going to want something approaching top 6 talent to support Bedard. If you look at their roster right now there is almost no support for Bedard. He'll need his Palffy, LeClair, Recchi, Sykora types that Sid and Geno had as kids.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I think Granlund makes a lot of sense for Chicago. They have the cap space and timeline of cheap kids where his contract isn't a concern for them and they are going to want something approaching top 6 talent to support Bedard. If you look at their roster right now there is almost no support for Bedard. He'll need his Palffy, LeClair, Recchi, Sykora types that Sid and Geno had as kids.

Granlund for a 6th? Type deal?

 

[Turin]

I like what I saw from Bertuzzi, I think he would be a solid signing.
Barbashev is another I wanted at the deadline, I hope we are in the mix

I’ve always been high on Bertuzzi I’m just scared of him getting 7 mil and getting injured. Bunting imo has the potential to get very underrated.

 

[Sideline]

Granlund for a 6th? Type deal?

Yeah or some random AHLer if Chicago needs the contract spot.

 

[Turin]

Gotta admit I was wrong about Barbashev too. He’s a player, his flaws in a good system are mitigated.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Granlund for a 6th? Type deal?

That would be incredibly fortuitous.

I'm still thinking the Penguins have to pay something to rid themselves of that contract. I could practically hear the other 31 GMs laughing their asses off from here when that deal went though at the TDL.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

That would be incredibly fortuitous.

I'm still thinking the Penguins have to pay something to rid themselves of that contract. I could practically hear the other 31 GMs laughing their asses off from here when that deal went though at the TDL.

Yea well above if we signed Bertuzzi and Barbashev to the deals they suggest.

I'd give Granlund and a 3rd away.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yea well above if we signed Bertuzzi and Barbashev to the deals they suggest.

I'd give Granlund and a 3rd away.

Man... if a third rounder gets it done... take that deal and run full speed the opposite direction haha

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Man... if a third rounder gets it done... take that deal and run full speed the opposite direction haha

I'm of the belief he is an actual hockey player that is miscast here and not who we need.

A slightly overpaid UFA but 100% serviceable.

 

[Rakell67]

Yeah or some random AHLer if Chicago needs the contract spot.

Granlund and a 6th (Blackhawks don't have one) for Dickinson?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Also would we want Tarasenko at 5.5 mil to 6 mil for 3 years? He was really good for the Rangers in the playoffs. And pretty alright two way play.

Pass.
I don't trust his durability moving forward.

 

[Sideline]

Granlund and a 6th (Blackhawks don't have one) for Dickinson?

I don't know enough about Dickson to say either way, but even if he is a pure salary dump I would be tempted.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I like what I saw from Bertuzzi, I think he would be a solid signing.
Barbashev is another I wanted at the deadline, I hope we are in the mix

The Killer B's! Just get them both.

 

[chethejet]

Pens need to dump Granlund. A buyout or trade. Then if Dubis is the GM, Goalie situation if first, then get bigger stronger more grit especially on the LD and Zucker for 3 years is about as far as I go. Lots of other moves to make but that is a start.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I would have liked to get Adin Hill but with the playoffs hes having, Vegas probably does everything they can to keep him.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Waive Carter, and or buyout Granlund. Sign Bunting or Bertuzzi, Kampf, see what Winnipeg wants for any of their big guns.

Carter has a NMC you can not waive him unless he accepted being sent down. The only options for getting rid of Carter are working out a deal with a team he’d accept a trade too. Which would be? Who knows? Or buying him out but he is a +35 so all you would be doing is opening up a roster spot you wouldn’t get any cap relief.

 

[66-30-33]

Guerin should do us a solid and trade Kaprizov to the Pens! They can retool a few years while they deal with that huge dead cap space from the buyouts.

Kaprizov-Crosby