Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: We suck again summer edition

[ChaosAgent]

With a Granlund buyout it looks like:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell
XXX-Malkin-Rust
DOC-Poehling-Puustinen
XXX-Carter-Nylander
Total: $40.5M

POJ-Letang
Petts-Petry
Smith-Ruutta
Ruh
Total: $21.5M

XXX
DeSmith
Total: $1.8M
Buyouts: $1.8M

Total: $65M

So $18M of space to find a goalie, an impact LD, two good forwards and 2 depth forwards. Of course this space expands as players are moved out. The only guys making real money I could see moved are Petts and Guentzel. Though the team should talk to Rust about his availability.

In terms of tradeable assets, we have:
Pickering
Our 1st
Our 2024 1st
All 3 LD are tradeable in one form or another depending on which way we want to go
Guentzel if we want to try to do something interesting

 

[Malkinstheman]

With a Granlund buyout it looks like:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell
XXX-Malkin-Rust
DOC-Poehling-Puustinen
XXX-Carter-Nylander
Total: $40.5M

POJ-Letang
Petts-Petry
Smith-Ruutta
Ruh
Total: $21.5M

XXX
DeSmith
Total: $1.8M
Buyouts: $1.8M

Total: $65M

So $18M of space to find a goalie, an impact LD, two good forwards and 2 depth forwards. Of course this space expands as players are moved out. The only guys making real money I could see moved are Petts and Guentzel. Though the team should talk to Rust about his availability.

In terms of tradeable assets, we have:
Pickering
Our 1st
Our 2024 1st
All 3 LD are tradeable in one form or another depending on which way we want to go
Guentzel if we want to try to do something interesting

5.5m for Barbashev (L2 LW)
2.5 for Brown (L3 RW)
2m for Janmark (L4 LW)
Trade 2024 2nd for Grzelcyk

Use the remaining 4-5m to find a goalie.

 

[Ulf5]

With a Granlund buyout it looks like:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell
XXX-Malkin-Rust
DOC-Poehling-Puustinen
XXX-Carter-Nylander
Total: $40.5M

POJ-Letang
Petts-Petry
Smith-Ruutta
Ruh
Total: $21.5M

XXX
DeSmith
Total: $1.8M
Buyouts: $1.8M

Total: $65M

So $18M of space to find a goalie, an impact LD, two good forwards and 2 depth forwards. Of course this space expands as players are moved out. The only guys making real money I could see moved are Petts and Guentzel. Though the team should talk to Rust about his availability.

In terms of tradeable assets, we have:
Pickering
Our 1st
Our 2024 1st
All 3 LD are tradeable in one form or another depending on which way we want to go
Guentzel if we want to try to do something interesting

I've seen Hanafin's name thrown around on the main board. Still only 25 @ $5 million with 1 year left I believe.
How much more than the 14th and can we afford his raise?

 

[ChaosAgent]

I've seen Hanafin's name thrown around on the main board. Still only 25 @ $5 million with 1 year left I believe.
How much more than the 14th and can we afford his raise?

After next year Carter comes off the books. After that, not sure we could keep both Hanifin and Jake. I think Jake stays until the deadline. If we are out of it, he will be moved. If we have a chance,he stays and is extended. I only hope the trade protections on the next deal aren't too onerous

 

[66-30-33]

Janmark would be a nice pickup. An improved Archibald...fast with more offense but less hitting.

 

[ChaosAgent]

With a Granlund buyout it looks like:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell
XXX-Malkin-Rust
DOC-Poehling-Puustinen
XXX-Carter-Nylander
Total: $40.5M

POJ-Letang
Petts-Petry
Smith-Ruutta
Ruh
Total: $21.5M

XXX
DeSmith
Total: $1.8M
Buyouts: $1.8M

Total: $65M

So $18M of space to find a goalie, an impact LD, two good forwards and 2 depth forwards. Of course this space expands as players are moved out. The only guys making real money I could see moved are Petts and Guentzel. Though the team should talk to Rust about his availability.

In terms of tradeable assets, we have:
Pickering
Our 1st
Our 2024 1st
All 3 LD are tradeable in one form or another depending on which way we want to go
Guentzel if we want to try to do something interesting

Why do I love this third line lol

 

[vodeni]

Why do I love this third line lol

really good AHL third line

 

[Pancakes]

DOC has been doing great at the world championships and has been a very good player in the AHL.

Gonna make a bold prediction here: he could be our next Bryan Rust. He doesn't have Rust's shot, but I would not be shocked to see DOC turn into a top six third wheel/tweener at some point. A different one than Rust, but maybe a guy who can bang in 20 goals and bring a supportive forechecking game.

I really think there's potential with him.

 

[Jacob]

DOC has been doing great at the world championships and has been a very good player in the AHL.

Gonna make a bold prediction here: he could be our next Bryan Rust. He doesn't have Rust's shot, but I would not be shocked to see DOC turn into a top six third wheel/tweener at some point. A different one than Rust, but maybe a guy who can bang in 20 goals and bring a supportive forechecking game.

I really think there's potential with him.

I could see it. Shot, size, skating, good tools to be a complimentary top-6 player.

 

[ChaosAgent]

really good AHL third line

Vs. Granlund a $5m guy with pedigree and 0 effectiveness?

 

[wheelz87]

I'd make a bet DOC never scores 20 in a season once in his career. Not that he can't be a solid NHLer. Just don't see anything more than the third wheel on a third line or a solid fourth liner.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I predict Nylander will outproduce and outdefend DOC next year. Not saying this to be a contrarian. I think people project DOC's forechecking and diligence onto his actual offensive abilities. His defensive awareness isn't particularly high either.
Will be pulling for him though. Nice to see hard work rewarded.

 

[Gurglesons]

I predict everyone hates Nylander because of Sullivan’s over usage of him ala Simon within 20 games.

 

[Ulf5]

I predict everyone hates Nylander because of Sullivan’s over usage of him ala Simon within 20 games.

I predict Nylander doesn't even get 20 games.

 

[Pens x]

Nobody panic but Dominik Simon just got cut from his Czech team after scoring 3 points in 22 games.

As long as Sullivan never finds out we’re good.

It’s crazy to think dumbass Sully played Simon every game for almost the entire season only a short time ago and that Hextall even signed him in the first place.

Reason 104 it’s a f***ing joke Sully still has a job here. Not sure how the premiere ownership group extended this fool when he had two years left on his deal, when he’s failed in the playoffs so many years. Pure ineptitude on the ownership.

 

[66-30-33]

I predict everyone hates Nylander because of Sullivan’s over usage of him ala Simon within 20 games.

I predict Pens will annoy me game 1.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Janmark would be a nice pickup. An improved Archibald...fast with more offense but less hitting.

Archibald was a rock defensively. Given that he was getting 72% D-zone starts and was saddled with struggling Blue and washed Carter, his lines did a great job shutting the door.
I liked his PK work too. Very pleasantly surprised with his defensive awareness and commitment this year. His scoring was crap but that's what you expect under these conditions.

Think there's a strong case to bring him back. If your bottom 6 lines are deployed the way ours are and end up net positives on the year, you're almost sure to make the playoffs.
Our problem was L3 couldn't defend worth dick.

 

[66-30-33]

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Archibald was a rock defensively. Given that he was getting 72% D-zone starts and was saddled with struggling Blue and washed Carter, his lines did a great job shutting the door.
I liked his PK work too. Very pleasantly surprised with his defensive awareness and commitment this year. His scoring was crap but that's what you expect under these conditions.

Think there's a strong case to bring him back. If your bottom 6 lines are deployed the way ours are and end up net positives on the year, you're almost sure to make the playoffs.
Our problem was L3 couldn't defend worth dick.

I'd bring Archibald back if he came on another 1 year deal at around 1M, I'd also look at Janmark too.

 

[Pens x]

Let’s bring everyone back and expect different results.

 

[vodeni]

DOC has been doing great at the world championships and has been a very good player in the AHL.

Gonna make a bold prediction here: he could be our next Bryan Rust. He doesn't have Rust's shot, but I would not be shocked to see DOC turn into a top six third wheel/tweener at some point. A different one than Rust, but maybe a guy who can bang in 20 goals and bring a supportive forechecking game.

I really think there's potential with him.

I hope so. I just don't see it in him, I want, I really really want...

 

[SomeDude]

Let’s bring everyone back and expect different results.

Might work if the coach was different.

 

[Andy99]

Offseason Checklist: Pittsburgh Penguins

Figuring out what to do in goal with Tristan Jarry set to become an unrestricted free agent is high on Pittsburgh's checklist this summer.

www.prohockeyrumors.com

 

[Darren McCord]

I'd make a bet DOC never scores 20 in a season once in his career. Not that he can't be a solid NHLer. Just don't see anything more than the third wheel on a third line or a solid fourth liner.

DOC is doing well at the worlds playing center.

Hes fourth on the US team in goals. I bet given more than a 4th line role he could hit 20. He gets barely 9mins a game and got 70% Dzone draws last year.

Sullivan needs to stop using his bottom 6 like an idiot

 

[SEALBound]

DOC has been doing great at the world championships and has been a very good player in the AHL.

Gonna make a bold prediction here: he could be our next Bryan Rust. He doesn't have Rust's shot, but I would not be shocked to see DOC turn into a top six third wheel/tweener at some point. A different one than Rust, but maybe a guy who can bang in 20 goals and bring a supportive forechecking game.

I really think there's potential with him.

What's good is that sometimes a higher profile tournament like this could do wonders for his confidence. 3/4 of the way through last season, something clicked with DOC. His was super aggressive on the forecheck, he was using his body and size, and was just playing with some swag. Pivot to this tournament where he is playing well and contributing, you hope that he takes this level of confidence and runs with it to start next season. You also hope the coach (god willing if its Sullivan) notices this too and tries to tap into it and cultivate it.

I'd make a bet DOC never scores 20 in a season once in his career. Not that he can't be a solid NHLer. Just don't see anything more than the third wheel on a third line or a solid fourth liner.

He doesn't have to though. If he turns into a solid 15-20g scorer on the 3rd line, it's a win. I don't think 3rd lines have 3rd wheels. Especially on this team.

I predict everyone hates Nylander because of Sullivan’s over usage of him ala Simon within 20 games.

I think if people hate him it's because of meager play getting 10min on the 4th ala Kapanen.

 

[Gurglesons]

DOC is doing well at the worlds playing center.

Hes fourth on the US team in goals. I bet given more than a 4th line role he could hit 20. He gets barely 9mins a game and got 70% Dzone draws last year.

Sullivan needs to stop using his bottom 6 like an idiot

If DOC hits 20 that’d be insane.