Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: We suck again summer edition

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

If this team goes out and pays 30some year old ROR like 6M to play on the third line I'm done for a while.

 

[molon labe]

If this team goes out and pays 30some year old ROR like 6M to play on the third line I'm done for a while.

Based on the names Friedman listed - that's exactly what I'd expect.

Frankly there's hardly any front offices in this league that do anything big or bold at all. Bunch of unimaginative pukes.

That Calgary/Florida swap was the biggest I've seen in a decade.

Fully expect them to analytically pick some washed goalie who will ultimately fail because of some recent inflated numbers and some overpriced third line piece while completely whiffing on our crappy blueline and crappy coach.

 

[vodeni]

Since it looks like Meier is likely going to market, wouldn’t it be nice to see…
Meier-Geno-Rust?

I know you are a big fan, I rarely watched him until these play offs and he kind of looked meh, for that money...not sure

 

[Ugene Magic]

1 less year on his deal and he actually plays centre unlike Granlund.

When he's healthy. The term for Granlund isn't terrible. You're not making up some significant gain going from Granlund to Johnson.

 

[Andy99]

I know you are a big fan, I rarely watched him until these play offs and he kind of looked meh, for that money...not sure

Definitely not worth and not going to get $10M lol or even $9…I watched him with Sharks and he was very good and didn’t seem like he fit with NJ…he’s worth $7-$8M per imo…there will be demand for his services as a UFA but I seriously doubt he gets much more than $8M

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Pretty much

I would prefer ROR, but no way he signs here at any price

Put that money into barbashev... Hell, let zucker walk. Barbie can bring the sorta "pens level of grit" that zook sometimes brings.

Not sure he can REALLY put up the same numbers, but he can bring an element team needs. Energy.

If he can provide 30 points and is deployed as a defensive specialist and doesn't leak goals I am good with that.

Granlund/Malkin/Rust is seriously a thing people would be content with heading into next year.

Geez man. Really counting on that "bounceback year" from Rust, I guess. A BIG one, at that.

I don't think I am content with it. Its more being realistic and attempting to fix what I think a GM can more easily do.

 

[Gurglesons]

If this team goes out and pays 30some year old ROR like 6M to play on the third line I'm done for a while.

At least it gives us someone to blame besides Sullivan when ROR inevitably falls off a cliff.

 

[Pens x]

At least it would FINALLY be on a player who can actually do something, though

Why can’t we sign someone who has a 2 in front of their age?

 

[eXile3]

Both Granlund and Johnson are bad players just in different ways.

 

[pistolpete11]

Very possible. I'm just saying that at the price tag I listed, we should have no issues about adding him.

As 3C? or 2LW?

 

[BusinessGoose]

Why can’t we sign someone who has a 2 in front of their age?

I dunno

I expect zero FA signings

Not even sure if our own bother to re-up here

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I'd have an issue adding him. He stunk this year in the regular season and had an okay playoff and is over 30. Why are we adding more old talent up front?

We've discussed this. ROR has had one underwhelming half season in over a decade last year, which promptly turned around once he was dealt to Toronto and used in exactly the same role he would be here. Characterizing his playoffs as "okay" is misrepresentation, to put it very diplomatically.

We'd be adding him because his track record at both ends of the ice is as consistent as it gets, he definitively fills a role we've been trying to fill for years without success, and he's versatile enough to sub in at a high level for top 6 C or LW if/when they get injured or we could use a different look.

As 3C? or 2LW?

Either. Likely both.

And probably add 2C to his duties at certain points too.

Unlike Granlund, he can actually fill all these roles well.

 

[Darren McCord]

Trade Jake for a 1rst and prospect.

Then sign bertuzzi.

Get some assets and change the makeup of the team

 

[pistolpete11]

Either. Likely both.

And probably add 2C to his duties at certain points too.

Unlike Granlund, he can actually fill all these roles well.

I mean, compared to Granlund, just about anything is going to come out smelling like roses

In a vacuum, yeah, I think $7M makes sense for a player like him. I just don't know if it makes sense for the Pens to spend $7M on a 3C when they have such glaring holes at 2LW and 1G. At 2LW, I don't know how much wing he's played and how he looks there.

I'm not saying 'no', it's just hard for me to envision how the roster shakes out with him here. I think there's most likely a contending team who could use a 1C or 2C where it just makes more sense for him.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

I listened to nearly every hockey podcast available yesterday due to the Coyotes situation. I believe it was Johnston said it’s assumed ROR is going to sign to go back to St. Louis. I don’t know it he is just postulating or knows some insider chit chat. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he did that.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I mean, compared to Granlund, just about anything is going to come out smelling like roses

In a vacuum, yeah, I think $7M makes sense for a player like him. I just don't know if it makes sense for the Pens to spend $7M on a 3C when they have such glaring holes at 2LW and 1G. At 2LW, I don't know how much wing he's played and how he looks there.

I'm not saying 'no', it's just hard for me to envision how the roster shakes out with him here. I think there's most likely a contending team who could use a 1C or 2C where it just makes more sense for him.

There may well be a spot that makes more sense for ROR. But if he were open to coming here for 6-6.5 mil, I'm jumping at it.

Trade Jake for a 1rst and prospect.

Then sign bertuzzi.

Get some assets and change the makeup of the team

ROR and Bertuzzi would've been the perfect 1-2 deadline punch for the Pens, but Hextall had no sack.

 

[Gurglesons]

There may well be a spot that makes more sense for ROR. But if he were open to coming here for 6-6.5 mil, I'm jumping at it.


ROR and Bertuzzi would've been the perfect 1-2 deadline punch for the Pens, but Hextall had no sack.

Not sure how ROR and Bertuzzi solves our goaltending and Brian Dumo getting 20+ a night.

Perfect 1-2 punch at the deadline would’ve been firing Sully.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If this team goes out and pays 30some year old ROR like 6M to play on the third line I'm done for a while.

And moves him to LW so that Carter can be the center?

 

[Gurglesons]

And moves him to LW so that Carter can be the center?

ROR will be used as Sid’s RW and PP only knowing Sully.

 

[pistolpete11]

There may well be a spot that makes more sense for ROR. But if he were open to coming here for 6-6.5 mil, I'm jumping at it.

I'll be surprised if he signs for less than $7M somewhere besides St. Louis or Toronto (if they end up moving some money around). I'll leave it at that.

 

[66-30-33]

I dunno

I expect zero FA signings

Not even sure if our own bother to re-up here

That's fine, we got lots of room and can trade for decent players for cheap.

 

[Rudy Russo]

If this team goes out and pays 30some year old ROR like 6M to play on the third line I'm done for a while.

Hextall would of been all over that in a heartbeat.

 

[Pens x]

Hextall would of been all over that in a heartbeat.

He wouldn’t have any money left after he re-signed every free agent.

 

[Darren McCord]

Not sure how ROR and Bertuzzi solves our goaltending and Brian Dumo getting 20+ a night.

Perfect 1-2 punch at the deadline would’ve been firing Sully.

Skip ROR. Bertuzzi brings something we don't have and Jake brings back assets to help fix goaltending and D.

 

[independent observer]

Will you wait with the rebuild until Crosby, Malkin and Letang retire?

I mean they won everything, why not start now and have them as mentors?

Would this be disrespectful to them?