Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: We suck again summer edition

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

What a useless article.

Let me sum up:

"Hey guys I just found out about trade clauses and want to share!"

 

[Gurglesons]

What a useless article.

Almost as bad as Yohe's 15th Hextall hit piece in the last two months.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

I really think that Markstrom should be the target. CAL wants to move him and he'll be much more affordable than Soros or Helly.

 

[SEALBound]

What a useless article.

That was a "I need something on Friday...anything..." article.

I really think that Markstrom should be the target. CAL wants to move him and he'll be much more affordable than Soros or Helly.

$6mil is a lot for him at the moment. That is not inconsequential but if they are willing to take Granlund back, I would be open to it.

 

[LiffLaff]

That was a "I need something on Friday...anything..." article.

$6mil is a lot for him at the moment. That is not inconsequential but if they are willing to take Granlund back, I would be open to it.

The Flames need cap space because of Hub/Weegar raises, so can't see them going for Granlund, unless they could unload more cap on us in some way. Granlund and CDS for Markström and Coleman maybe? With the Pens probably adding.

 

[SomeDude]

That was a "I need something on Friday...anything..." article.

I’m not going to give Bud Moonshine the click, but it was probably one of his best of the year.

At least he’s not speculating Crosby is mad at the Pens because he put his garbage can out early or some other dumb ****.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

What a useless article.

I'll teach you a trick. If you see an article from that site, don't click it

 

[molon labe]

With Matthews and Marner getting full NMCs July 1- I feel there's real possibility one moves.

Marner is the easier replace, but Matthews is writing on the wall. I would shop Matthews as hard as it sounds.

 

[Pancakes]

Can't agree with this. He was arguably our MVP the prior 2 seasons. Maybe Jarry last year.
This was a colossal drop off defensively. He salvaged it somewhat after returning the 2nd time, but by then a lot of damage was done.

Him bouncing back is one of the keys to making the playoffs next year. Still think he can, despite his age. The skating is still pretty good. Just get him a solid partner from free agency from game #1, or maybe Petts continues his strong form and that becomes a reliable pairing.
Confidence is huge for him. Gotta provide the right environment to create that.

He was second on the team in expected goals from defense (54%), top 30 or whatever in the league in successful exits, lead the team in points from defense.

I think his struggles were overblown a bit.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

I'd re-sign Zucker if he took a Rust-type deal & discount. Clearly prorated for production. Which actually comes out to just under $3M per year.

I know people are poo-pooing Rust for this past season but he took a hell of a discount.

And that's after a bad year.

If we can only keep Zucker and Rust then maybe we can do as well as we have the past few years. Are we serious here? And these numbers for Rust are meaningless, he never actually played anything approaching a full year for this span. How do you play that soft and still be hurt over 25% of the time? And not even these high level garbage stats can cover up his awful defensive play. When he did play a full season last year, we all saw the outcome. No 33-40 goals like these projections, 20 goals despite tons of PP time and sheltering playing in the top 6 exclusively. Who thinks this is worth $6.6m?

Look, we all saw Rust play the last few years, it's only gotten worse, it's only getting worse. If you put me on a line with Sid or Geno and gave me 70% O zone starts I'd pull down a bunch of random assists too.

We need the next GM to look at how guys are going to perform in the future, not what happened 5 years ago. This group needs actual change. Not just a new 3C and a goalie.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Letang was wretched in the first half of the year. It's understandable because of the stroke and his father's passing. He stabilized to his normal level of play as the season wound down, but he was dreadful early on and for long stretches. But again, I think it's pretty easy to see why.

 

[Pancakes]

Letang was wretched in the first half of the year. It's understandable because of the stroke and his father's passing. He stabilized to his normal level of play as the season wound down, but he was dreadful early on and for long stretches. But again, I think it's pretty easy to see why.

It was an up and down season for sure, but when you look at the whole season, what he gave overall was fine.

 

[dkollidas]

What are Pittsburgh’s needs?

As a Sabres fan I’d be interested in adding Petry if he would waive his NMC. Buffalo is a team on the upswing, plays an aggressive offensive style and Petry could get big minutes paired with Power or Samuelsson.

Olofsson seems like he could be a good fit? He’s a one trick pony, but it’s a great trick if used properly, and in a contract year I’d bet Sid & Malkin could use that trick.

There’s also UPL who would give them some major cap relief in net and has shown decently as a starter but would be a great 1B and future option if the Pens went out and got someone like Hellebuyck.

 

[Gurglesons]

What are Pittsburgh’s needs?

As a Sabres fan I’d be interested in adding Petry if he would waive his NMC. Buffalo is a team on the upswing, plays an aggressive offensive style and Petry could get big minutes paired with Power or Samuelsson.

Olofsson seems like he could be a good fit? He’s a one trick pony, but it’s a great trick if used properly, and in a contract year I’d bet Sid & Malkin could use that trick.

There’s also UPL who would give them some major cap relief in net and has shown decently as a starter but would be a great 1B and future option if the Pens went out and got someone like Hellebuyck.

Neither of these add a ton. I’d be interested in UPL but PIT cannot trade Petry to a team they likely will be in direct competition with given their lack of RHD.

 

[SEALBound]

What are Pittsburgh’s needs?

As a Sabres fan I’d be interested in adding Petry if he would waive his NMC. Buffalo is a team on the upswing, plays an aggressive offensive style and Petry could get big minutes paired with Power or Samuelsson.

Olofsson seems like he could be a good fit? He’s a one trick pony, but it’s a great trick if used properly, and in a contract year I’d bet Sid & Malkin could use that trick.

There’s also UPL who would give them some major cap relief in net and has shown decently as a starter but would be a great 1B and future option if the Pens went out and got someone like Hellebuyck.

I think the problem would be, to move Petry we would be interested in the guys you would need to keep.

Who are we missing and what do we need: Alex Tuch.

Would even say Jokiharju and UPL but those are good young assets that Buffalo needs and I'm not sure they give them up for a 36yo Petry.

 

[canadianguy77]

Letang was wretched in the first half of the year. It's understandable because of the stroke and his father's passing. He stabilized to his normal level of play as the season wound down, but he was dreadful early on and for long stretches. But again, I think it's pretty easy to see why.

I don't know. I feel like he's lost a ton of explosiveness and flat-out speed over the last few seasons. He gets beat to loose/dumped pucks fairly often now (especially this past season) when that was never a concern earlier in his career. I don't think he has the brains to make up for it so I expect a long, steady decline from him. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don't know. I feel like he's lost a ton of explosiveness and flat-out speed over the last few seasons. He gets beat to loose/dumped pucks fairly often now (especially this past season) when that was never a concern earlier in his career. I don't think he has the brains to make up for it so I expect a long, steady decline from him. I hope I'm wrong.

I think he’s fine. But the issue is our coach thinks he’s a top ten D in the league still.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't know. I feel like he's lost a ton of explosiveness and flat-out speed over the last few seasons. He gets beat to loose/dumped pucks fairly often now (especially this past season) when that was never a concern earlier in his career. I don't think he has the brains to make up for it so I expect a long, steady decline from him. I hope I'm wrong.

I think his physical traits are definitely worsening, but I don't think the bottom's fallen out yet. I think it was way more due to his off-ice stuff, but that's just my opinion.

When he gets demonstratively slower though, yikes. There's zero cerebral game to fall back on. Dude's gonna be rooooooough when the skating and stamina start to drop off a lot.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

He was second on the team in expected goals from defense (54%), top 30 or whatever in the league in successful exits, lead the team in points from defense.

I think his struggles were overblown a bit.

Best way I can put it is if you watch all the goals against from this year, a disproportionate amount of them were his fault compared to his norm. In some cases low effort defending, not just errors.

The offense was relatively ok. Not great, but fine. We agree on that. Pretty solid goal count for his game count.

I mean, he better be leading the D in points as a PP1 mainstay and the biggest minute eater. If he wasn't, that'd be super disappointing.

He was fairly ok when he actually had the puck, but when defending, the quality of chances against were abnormally high.
Again, I am mostly referring to his first half with this. He dramatically improved after coming back the 2nd time.

 

[ChaosAgent]

On ice Letang did not have a good season. Some of that is understandable.

But he is probably the most important player on the team. It isnt an accident that we missed this year.

 

[vodeni]

On ice Letang did not have a good season. Some of that is understandable.

But he is probably the most important player on the team. It isnt an accident that we missed this year.

I disagree. Letang that you think of maybe, this Letang no way,

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Letang's very important, but this team's a Sid injury away from picking top-10, maybe top-5. Geno's still a fine player, but some combination of Carter and Granlund as this team's 2C and 3C would be an issue, to put it very lightly.

 

[Ulf5]

What are Pittsburgh’s needs?

As a Sabres fan I’d be interested in adding Petry if he would waive his NMC. Buffalo is a team on the upswing, plays an aggressive offensive style and Petry could get big minutes paired with Power or Samuelsson.

Olofsson seems like he could be a good fit? He’s a one trick pony, but it’s a great trick if used properly, and in a contract year I’d bet Sid & Malkin could use that trick.

There’s also UPL who would give them some major cap relief in net and has shown decently as a starter but would be a great 1B and future option if the Pens went out and got someone like Hellebuyck.

I don't see Olofsson getting much pt under Sully if he's still here. Philly's 2nd would be a start.
Can JJP play LW? I've seen him listed as both.

 

[Cowumbus]

What do you think the trade value of PO Joseph is currently? If he stays, as of now what do you project the next contract to look like?

 

[gdsmack267]

Remember when the Penguins protected Teddy Blueger, Kapanen and Carter over Mccann and Tanev. What an absolute cluster that was.

Its infuriating how we had an out with Rutherford leaving and Hextall somehow managed to be even worse.