Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Yes, Sully is still the coach

[Pens x]

Where have you been? we miss you! Well, a few of us do.

I came down with an autoimmune condition that basically paralyzed my body. It’s called Guillain Barre - I had never heard of it until recently. I havent been home (Pittsburgh) since early June. Im lucky to be alive honestly. I was on a ventilator for several months. UPMC and AGH had no answers - thank god for Cleveland Clinic. I’ve been at a rehabilitation center in Atlanta since August.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Dubas spoke with a Pens employee in Josh Getzoff and it was turned into an article by another Pens employee in Michelle Crechiolo.

If anyone was expecting anything truly revealing, I have oceanfront property in South Dakota for sale.

 

[Gurglesons]

I came down with an autoimmune condition that basically paralyzed my body. It’s called Guillain Barre - I had never heard of it until recently. I havent been home (Pittsburgh) since early June. Im lucky to be alive honestly. I was on a ventilator for several months. UPMC and AGH had no answers - thank god for Cleveland Clinic. I’ve been at a rehabilitation center in Atlanta since August.

Did this disease coincide with your excitement of Hextall’s firing?

 

[Andy99]

I came down with an autoimmune condition that basically paralyzed my body. It’s called Guillain Barre - I had never heard of it until recently. I havent been home (Pittsburgh) since early June. Im lucky to be alive honestly. I was on a ventilator for several months. UPMC and AGH had no answers - thank god for Cleveland Clinic. I’ve been at a rehabilitation center in Atlanta since August.

Man, sorry to hear that. Glad you’re doing better

 

[HandshakeLine]

What like spanking them?

Sid's probably into that but I was thinking more about taking away PP privileges until they start playing responsibly.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I'm convinced the core (Crosby, Malkin, Letang) has told ownership they have no desire to play for another coach. They're too old and too set in their ways to have another guy come in here and tell them what to do, especially if he's a ball buster. So we're going to be stuck with Sully until they retire.

Malkin and Sully do not seem to get along, though?

 

[Pens x]

Did this disease coincide with your excitement of Hextall’s firing?

Haha maybe

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Malkin and Sully do not seem to get along, though?

Yea I think they've butted heads in the past but at this point it's probably more like a family member you don't get along with. At 37 he likely prefers him to someone new. Just my opinion.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I came down with an autoimmune condition that basically paralyzed my body. It’s called Guillain Barre - I had never heard of it until recently. I havent been home (Pittsburgh) since early June. Im lucky to be alive honestly. I was on a ventilator for several months. UPMC and AGH had no answers - thank god for Cleveland Clinic. I’ve been at a rehabilitation center in Atlanta since August.

Rough news dude, but I'm glad you're back and hope you're feeling better. And yeah, Cleveland Clinic is pretty great for autoimmune stuff, my moms goes there for treatment.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Reirden during the end of season meeting with FSG

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Dubas spoke with a Pens employee in Josh Getzoff and it was turned into an article by another Pens employee in Michelle Crechiolo.

If anyone was expecting anything truly revealing, I have oceanfront property in South Dakota for sale.

Thing is he says nothing. He didn't need to say any of the shit he did say as a way to explain anything. The fact that he even says the Flyers are in a better spot is hilariously f***ing stupid.

Entire article reads like an excuse for why Sullivan is struggling, that it isn't his fault.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Yea I think they've butted heads in the past but at this point it's probably more like a family member you don't get along with. At 37 he likely prefers him to someone new. Just my opinion.

I doubt that. I think Malkin cares less about who the coach is and just wants to win. If you told him yeah Sully needed to go so we can be better he'd be like ah ok cool and then wait to see if the new coach f***s him over with wingers too.

The blokes that will give a shit are Sid and Letang. I think it really is just those two that have a close bond with Sullivan.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I don't think you fire Sullivan before firing Rierden, but if firing Rierden doesn't solve the issues with this team, then you fire Sullivan.

I still believe that this team would be a good to great team if their powerplay was as good as the skill level it has. The team is generally good at 5v5, which is the main part of Sullivan's responsibilities.

Firing Recchi didn't solve anything, if you fire Reirden you do it in tandem with Sullivan. You keep Vellucci at most and there's someone I am sure of that Dubas can bring right in for the Assistant role as well as a Head Coach he'd have in mind.

This team be beyond the point of firing another Assistant Coach. Because the main issue is the head coach panders to the core. You think a new assistant isn't going to just follow Sullivan's mandate of "this is the pool of players you need to pick from" and allowing the same shit to happen again. This isn't just a powerplay issue here. This Pens squad is shit and with what they have they should be better and the roster keeps looking older because of this coach.

Enough is enough.

We know this teams M.O they'll one and win a game or two and convince everyone they are turning a corner only to drop a couple and look awful. Dubas wants to be patient, fine, if he doesn't fire Sully in December, this season is a write off and their door is done. Becuase they'll extend Jake to some dipshit extension that f***s the cap even more.

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

Thing is he says nothing. He didn't need to say any of the shit he did say as a way to explain anything. The fact that he even says the Flyers are in a better spot is hilariously f***ing stupid.

Entire article reads like an excuse for why Sullivan is struggling, that it isn't his fault.

In fairness to Dubas, his quote was “They're in better form right now than us”. I watch exactly zero Flyers when they aren't playing the Pens, but after the last two games I'm certainly in solidarity with Kyle on this issue. I know, my sample size of 2 delivers a confidence interval of essentially shit, but the Flyers were the better team in those games, and our goalies saved us from embarrassing blowouts. Do you disagree?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

In fairness to Dubas, his quote was “They're in better form right now than us”. I watch exactly zero Flyers when they aren't playing the Pens, but after the last two games I'm certainly in solidarity with Kyle on this issue. I know, my sample size of 2 delivers a confidence interval of essentially shit, but the Flyers were the better team in those games, and our goalies saved us from embarrassing blowouts. Do you disagree?

There's a lot of teams that aren't in better form than us that beat this team, this is where Kyle needs to speak up and say that vs he thinks this team has done well etc.

I just hope he's playing the PR angle and behind the scenes he's pissed.

 

[eXile3]

Sounds like Dubas is being supportive of his coach and players which is what I expect. He’s not going to throw people under the bus because he’s a professional.

He might be thinking something different but it would do no benefit to shit on them right now.

 

[PaulD]

My understanding is there is some pretty interesting stuff in the interview with Dubas.

like what ?

Sounds like Dubas is being supportive of his coach and players which is what I expect. He’s not going to throw people under the bus because he’s a professional.

He might be thinking something different but it would do no benefit to shit on them right now.

he didn't hesitate to throw Babcock under the bus. Multiple occasions.

 

[pistolpete11]

I gotta laugh at the Sid and Geno only want to play for Sullivan nonsense. What they want to play losing hockey and not make the playoffs again? And what's gonna happen if they fire Sullivan? Sid and Geno are going to retire on the spot? Just like all of the "You can't trade soandso because they are friends with Sid/Geno!", they'll get over it.

 

[PensandCaps]

Dubas needs to grow a spine and fire Sullivan, and then bring in his own coach.

Cannot waste a year after going all in with EK.

I gotta laugh at the Sid and Geno only want to play for Sullivan nonsense. What they want to play losing hockey and not make the playoffs again? And what's gonna happen if they fire Sullivan? Sid and Geno are going to retire on the spot? Just like all of the "You can't trade soandso because they are friends with Sid/Geno!", they'll get over it.

Can't imagine why they would love Sullivan. They've probably wanted him gone for a few years now.

 

[SomeDude]

I still think Dubas only took this job because FSG kept offering him more money until he couldn’t say no.

 

[Victor Z]

Can't imagine why they would love Sullivan.

Nice country club atmosphere, no accountability except for the scrubs, no radical changes that would offend tender player sensibilities, line combos carved in stone like Commandments (no matter how poorly they play) to satisfy player egos, etc.

A new coach might change some or all of that. In fact he BETTER do so, otherwise what's the point of a new coach. Which is also why the new coach absolutely cannot be any schmuck who is already in the organization (Reirden, Vellucci, Forrest).

(As if there's ever going to BE a new coach....)

 

[orby]

Nice country club atmosphere, no accountability except for the scrubs, no radical changes that would offend tender player sensibilities, line combos carved in stone like Commandments (no matter how poorly they play) to satisfy player egos, etc.

In all honestly I don't think this is what Sid wants. By all accounts, there is no more motivated, driven player in the league. I don't think Sid would ever tell a GM to fire a coach, but I can't imagine he is the type of guy to prioritize having an easy job over winning games.

 

[Andy99]

Nice country club atmosphere, no accountability except for the scrubs, no radical changes that would offend tender player sensibilities, line combos carved in stone like Commandments (no matter how poorly they play) to satisfy player egos, etc.

A new coach might change some or all of that. In fact he BETTER do so, otherwise what's the point of a new coach. Which is also why the new coach absolutely cannot be any schmuck who is already in the organization (Reirden, Vellucci, Forrest).

(As if there's ever going to BE a new coach....)

Totally believe that lip service is being given to winning…they all know they’re not winning shit, hence the putrid play…and we’ll all know this is true when Dubas is quiet as a church mouse and no moves are made, including firing any coaches lol

 

[PaulD]

Yea Sully still coach of this 500 team.

BTW-
How is Minny doing since the coaching change?
How about the Oilers?
Rangers ?
Last season how did a coaching change work out for Knights . Bruins. Canucks?

Duh.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Yea Sully still coach of this 500 team.

BTW-
How is Minny doing since rhe coaching change?
How about the Oilers?
Rangers ?
Last season how did a coaching change work out for Knights . Bruins. Canucks?

Duh.

Montgomery last year should be exhibit A of how a new voice/coach can do wonders.
That team is about as old as we are, yet can still get buy in from a coach who actually holds his players accountable