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Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Yes, Sully is still the coach

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Gurglesons said:
I think @ColePens has said he just was done here.

I blame myself.
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I remember calling him out one game about Zucker. Dude was reaching an obsessive level of hate and he was just fixated on it. He left for awhile and then came back.

Imagine taking a message board that seriously...
 
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I remember calling him out one game about Zucker. Dude was reaching an obsessive level of hate and he was just fixated on it. He left for awhile and then came back.

Imagine taking a message board that seriously...
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I don't think it was about taking it seriously. Just got bored of the topics here. Makes sense.

Same reason my boy @Shady Machine rarely posts anymore.
 
I mean, there's nothing much to say about the team, they suck, the coach sucks, the hockey they play is boring, and the site doesn't quite have the fun vibe it had back in the day. People peacing out is absolutely normal.

Frankly, I mostly just post here now while I'm on the train or trying not to do the mounds of paperwork that came with my new positions.
 
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Sidney the Kidney said:
We'll see. Rakell looked promising and showed attributes that should have been perfect for our top six when he arrived, too. Now he's a guy with 1 point in 9 games and kind of just there.
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I think Rakell's performance last year at 5v5 is pretty overrated and he was carried by his powerplay production.
 
Josey Wales said:
Probably was tired of the Bullshit posters who post the same thing every f***ing day
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Praying you feel the same.

HandshakeLine said:
I mean, there's nothing much to say about the team, they suck, the coach sucks, the hockey they play is boring, and the site doesn't quite have the fun vibe it had back in the day. People peacing out is absolutely normal.

Frankly, I mostly just post here now while I'm on the train or trying not to do the mounds of paperwork that came with my new positions.
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I just post here to annoy @Empoleon8771.
 
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Gurglesons said:
I don't think it was about taking it seriously. Just got bored of the topics here. Makes sense.

Same reason my boy @Shady Machine rarely posts anymore.
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Shaking the same tree excessively = boring.

There's only so many things to talk about, we all have been down that rabbit hole of hockey talk, when it's going great discussion generally goes well. But the technical part in of itself is boring on most who mostly understand the game.

When that goes, what else is there?

Or... you can simply keep going in circles.
 
Vancouver's metrics suggest that their start is unsustainable. They have a huge goal differential that was just inflated even more by crushing San Jose, but their xGD is in the red.

Guys have hot streaks all the time. Let's see where Friedman is at the end of the season.
 
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Guys have hotstreaks all the time, and that's a bad thing, but cold streaks are just things you need to play through. GCR is gonna heat up any day now!

Josey Wales said:
Probably was tired of the Bullshit posters who post the same thing every f***ing day
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You can ask him, he's not dead, ChatGPT bot.
 
HandshakeLine said:
I mean, there's nothing much to say about the team, they suck, the coach sucks, the hockey they play is boring, and the site doesn't quite have the fun vibe it had back in the day. People peacing out is absolutely normal.

Frankly, I mostly just post here now while I'm on the train or trying not to do the mounds of paperwork that came with my new positions.
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I think that's the problem. The team loses games the exact same way. Disorganized, boring hockey where breakdowns and leaving guys wide open seems to cost them every single night. It's tough to change up the discussion points when almost every game is a carbon copy of the last.

And at the risk of being a broken record, it's difficult to even bother talking about changes to the lines or additions to the roster as long as the coaching position is the same. We've seen roster overhaul multiple times and it's the same result. So at this point, what's the point in even discussing "we should trade for this guy" or "we'd be better if this guy was traded away" when the end result is affected so much by coaching?
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
I like how someone who clearly hasn't played goalie in their life is trying to explain to someone who has played goalie their entire life how goaltending works.

The kinds of goalies today are either technical butterfly goalies (someone like what Murray used to be) or athletic butterfly goalies (someone like Saros), and the best goalies are both. That's the only way that goalies play today.

The last true "hybrid" goalie was Brodeur and he was like the one hybrid goalie that lasted decently into the 2000s. Every other goalie had firmly adopted the butterfly style by then and it has been becoming even more technical focused since that. Patrick Roy is the main goalie who made the league shift its focus like this, pretty much every American and Canadian goalie growing up was then taught to play the same style as Roy.

Pretty much no standup goalie entered the league after 1990 and pretty much no hybrid goalie entered the league after 2000. The last great hybrid goalies (guys like Brodeur, Khabibulin, Nabokov and Joseph) were essentially extinct by 2010.
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Fellow netminder here!

To expound on this, MAF was really the first AND last of his breed. All goalies coming up around that time were butterflies (especially growing up in QC, where all goalies wanted to be Roy)

Well MAF was unique in that he was probably the most athletic goalie to come around in the past 20 years AND he played what I call an aggressive butterfly. Challenging shooters vs letting them come to you and then going butterfly and he could do that and recover due to his supreme athleticism. Well those types of guys started to go out of style bc of the new rules eliminating a ton of hooking and holding that was prevalent in those days. MAF still had success, but players started figuring him out and waiting him out.

I don't know if they've developed a term for the new age of goalies yet. The major revolution is now that goalies are so supersized that they just butterfly and stay , sometimes super deep in their net. Probably the only technique that's come around in the past 5 or so years is the V-H and Reverse V-H when dealing with sharp angles.

Josey Wales said:
Probably was tired of the Bullshit posters who post the same thing every f***ing day
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I see self-awareness is out of style for some....
 
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Buddy Bizarre said:
Fellow netminder here!

To expound on this, MAF was really the first AND last of his breed. All goalies coming up around that time were butterflies (especially growing up in QC, where all goalies wanted to be Roy)

Well MAF was unique in that he was probably the most athletic goalie to come around in the past 20 years AND he played what I call an aggressive butterfly. Challenging shooters vs letting them come to you and then going butterfly and he could do that and recover due to his supreme athleticism. Well those types of guys started to go out of style bc of the new rules eliminating a ton of hooking and holding that was prevalent in those days. MAF still had success, but players started figuring him out and waiting him out.

I don't know if they've developed a term for the new age of goalies yet. The major revolution is now that goalies are so supersized that they just butterfly and stay , sometimes super deep in their net. Probably the only technique that's come around in the past 5 or so years is the V-H and Reverse V-H when dealing with sharp angles.
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Ullmark started doing a technique that is called back flow. Basically the idea is that you push out to your angle and then slowly start pushing backwards. The idea is that by keeping in motion like that you can keep yourself in motion and more easily get to rebounds and second saves.

Since implementing that technique he had the great season he had last year.

It's not necessarily a new technique - other goalies have been doing it as well prior to Ullmark. But Ullmark may well popularize it with the recent success he's had.
 
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I always hope today is the day sully man is no longer a part of this team... then I read the thread title and get bummed out.

He bums me out and I only have to watch... sapped me of any emotion other than jaded.
 
Pancakes said:
Ullmark started doing a technique that is called back flow. Basically the idea is that you push out to your angle and then slowly start pushing backwards. The idea is that by keeping in motion like that you can keep yourself in motion and more easily get to rebounds and second saves.

Since implementing that technique he had the great season he had last year.

It's not necessarily a new technique - other goalies have been doing it as well prior to Ullmark. But Ullmark may well popularize it with the recent success he's had.
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Yea I read an article about that last year. I'll see if I can find it. Makes a ton of sense. The idea behind it is that not only can you keep your momentum for rebounds, it reduces the abrupt starting/stopping that can put a ton of wear on your knees, hips and back.

I only play beer league and I've tried to integrate it where I can. It's definitely weird bc I'm used to drifting forward when a point shot comes.
 
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Jake Guentzel - Sidney Crosby - Bryan Rust
Reilly Smith - Evgeni Malkin - Rickard Rakell
Drew O'Connor - Lars Eller - Radim Zohorna
Matt Nieto - Noel Acciari - Vinnie Hinostroza

Ryan Graves - Kris Letang
Marcus Pettersson - Erik Karlsson
Ryan Shea - Chad Ruhwedel
P.O Joseph - Jeff Carter
 
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Josey Wales said:
Jake Guentzel - Sidney Crosby - Bryan Rust
Reilly Smith - Evgeni Malkin - Rickard Rakell
Drew O'Connor - Lars Eller - Radim Zohorna
Matt Nieto - Noel Acciari - Vinnie Hinostroza

Ryan Graves - Kris Letang
Marcus Pettersson - Erik Karlsson
Ryan Shea - Chad Ruhwedel
P.O Joseph - Jeff Carter
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Breath SEAL....breath. Breath in 1...2...3...4... Breath out 1...2...3...4
 
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As much as I like dunking on JC. I'd like someone to tell me what Nieto and Acciari do. What an overpaid do-nothing 4th line that's been assembled.

You could probably have a bunch of WBS kids in their place with the orders: "do not get scored on"
And they'd probably succeed.
 
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