Buddy Bizarre
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Is it worth going to the main boards to lick up the salty tears?
Confirmed with Link: Penguins acquire Erik Karlsson for Granlund, 1st rounder in 2024, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith (more in first post)
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Pavelski2112
Bold as Boognish
Sharks fan coming in peace. Karlsson was the only fun player to watch on the Sharks in the past few years and his offensive contribution is second to none - you got one of the best players in the league in terms of being able to create offense and raise the level of players around him. He turned AHL lifers like Jaycob Megna and Scott Harrington into serviceable NHL defensemen.
There's a lot of talk about his defensive ability, but in the modern NHL a good offense is a good defense, and being able to move the puck out of the zone the way he does and his stickhandling ability more than makes up for the fact that he doesn't play like Roman Polak in front of the net. People love to use +/- 5v5 to knock him, without mentioning the fact that he was basically played constantly in empty net situations and was playing on the team with the least wins in the league, not to mention the terrible goaltending the Sharks have gotten over the past God-knows-how-long.
The contract hurts, but if Karlsson can stay healthy and continue to play the way he has but with even better players around him, it will be worth it.
There's a lot of talk about his defensive ability, but in the modern NHL a good offense is a good defense, and being able to move the puck out of the zone the way he does and his stickhandling ability more than makes up for the fact that he doesn't play like Roman Polak in front of the net. People love to use +/- 5v5 to knock him, without mentioning the fact that he was basically played constantly in empty net situations and was playing on the team with the least wins in the league, not to mention the terrible goaltending the Sharks have gotten over the past God-knows-how-long.
The contract hurts, but if Karlsson can stay healthy and continue to play the way he has but with even better players around him, it will be worth it.
Ugene Magic
EVIL LAUGH
WickedWrister
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Thanks for the review! Yeah, the +/- crowd in the trade thread on the main boards are just the lowest common denominator of hockey fan intelligence. Glad to hear former Pittsburgh Penguins legend Scott Harrington is still collecting checks.
Jaded-Fan
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Am I the only one who thinks that Karlsson's defensive zone exits and bringing the puck briskly and efficiently down the ice will be more important than the points that he scores?
Ginormousthumbs
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Considering the moves this summer, this leaves Sully with no more excuses, right?
3ladesof5teel
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Its a joke of a stat when looking at his game
This is going to be fun
We have ourselves a few +/- guys here that think EK needs to work real hard to make it work.
Its a joke of a stat when looking at his game
its was one of our biggest needs, someone who can drive the play and take the load off of Geno and Sid. We were looking at wings to help but it just so happens he's a defenseman and one of the best to drive play in the game.
This is going to be fun
Ryder71
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It depends on how they are failing.
0-20, yeah Sullivan regardless of anything else.
10-10 and the top line is Nieto-Crosby-Nylander with Karlsson getting 5min on the 3rd line because he had a turnover 3 games ago, yes it's Sullivan
10-10 and the team constantly blows third period leads while Jarry lets in beach balls...maybe not Sullivan.
There does come a point when it's the players responsibility to perform. Looking at you Jarry, Letang, Rust...
HandshakeLine
A real jerk thing
Always
It really is. Karlsson could bomb here and it would still be a steal.
Karlssons minus last season was due to the fact sharks gave up 21 empty netters
Ryder71
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We played against EK in the playoffs in 2017, we are fully aware of his game. The majority of his career was in OTT so we know him as a player. I'm glad you came in peace though, it's appreciated. A few guys from your fanbase though don't seem to have a clue. They expected a much bigger haul without any rhyme or reason to do so under the circumstances. They got very quiet after the trade. I hope they learned their lesson, but probably not.
We're aware of this. Well, some of us are.
Pavelski2112
Bold as Boognish
That's fair, but I do think it's important to reiterate, considering it's been a few years since he's been in OTT and he's about to be in his mid-30s now.
Also, I think the minimal retention changed things for the Sharks, but most of us are fairly content with the return because we didn't have to take ~25-30%. I think a lot of our expectations were based around the idea that we'd be retaining a lot more.
Ryder71
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I expected minimal retention myself and said as much. Although maybe more than 1.5 mil. But if you saw some of the nonsense that some espoused about multiple 1st rounders, top prospects etc it was crazy. And we recouped a 3rd rounder. Grier was in a tough position, everybody knew that or should have known that. I'll say this about him, at least he didn't completely soil the bed.
HandshakeLine
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Dear San Jose,
Enjoy Granlund.
Warmest Regards,
HandshakeLine
Enjoy Granlund.
Warmest Regards,
HandshakeLine
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$13.75 million in cap out. And you get a Norris winner in return. I'm not sure how bad Karlsson has to bomb here to make this trade bad for the Penguins but I'm not even sure it's entirely possible.
Puustinen-McDavid-Drai
A Nylander-Crosby-Matthews
Svejkovsky-Malkin-Ansons
Poulin-Gruden-Frasca
Pickering-Letang
Smith-Karlsson
Belliveau-Pieniniemi
Blomqvist-Gauthier
Not like we'd be able to afford much more.
Yes. The Penguins are the type of organization that despite being on the team for 1 day, they will treat him as if he's been here 100 years.Real question... EK has appeared in 920 career games, does he get the same ceremony for 1000 that 87, 58, and 71 have gotten
They probably trade Hoffman and Granlund away for some picks anyways..
HandshakeLine
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This roster is a rickety collection of bargain bin depth that's hopefully going to be tentpoled by a group of mid-30s injury prone guys, all backstopped by the Tristan Jarry Coaster.
There's a fair few ways this could go south.
Dennis Reynolds
I have to have my tools!
I really wanted to like Granlund. He's incredibly, remarkably smart. And any fan who can't recognize that is incredibly the opposite.
But my God he's weak. Put him in the corner for a puck battle with a toddler, and I'm not sure who wins.
But my God he's weak. Put him in the corner for a puck battle with a toddler, and I'm not sure who wins.
Jaded-Fan
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Thin on depth and the usual injury level would devastate this team. Especially entering the playoffs.
Jarry also will have to hit on all cylinders and be 100 percent healthy.
Those are the most likely areas where it can go south.
Are we sure this is hockey guy? He seems way overqualified
Turin
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Still kinda bummed he sucks so bad these days because I always really liked him in Minnesota.
SomeDude
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The current state of the main boards is that they had to lock a Crosby birthday thread because someone threw a tantrum that it wasn't fair not to wish everyone else who has a birthday today well.
I wish I were joking.
Humanity is boned.
Who cares, eat Arby's.
