PuckLuck3043
Stairway To Heaven
Way more often than not cup winning teams have had quality goaltenders in net.
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will1066
If you score four, you better f'n win the game
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Brian Leetch
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History has proven you correct. The importance of goalies in the modern NHL is greatly exaggerated.
Machinehead
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We're in a tight series with a very good team whose core has won the Cup multiple times. We could easily be up 3-0.
There are obvious points that need to be corrected but this is also not exactly a Greek tragedy.
There are obvious points that need to be corrected but this is also not exactly a Greek tragedy.
This says it all. This game was like kissing your sister. We all feel good about coming back from 4-1 due to a combination of a disastrous first period goaltending but as usual our team doesn't plays defense and our coach is cool with that. Then after the tie we get 3 PP opptys and do nothing with them. We deserve to lose the game and the series. But I so hope we wind to get to the second round so the entire organization from Laffy/Kakko and Drury understand what needs to ne done to win in the playpffs
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PuckLuck3043
Stairway To Heaven
Yes and Price hasn't won it either but more often than not the team that wins it all has a quality netminder just like the last 2 years.
PuckLuck3043
Stairway To Heaven
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Having a great goalie is like the icing on top of the cake. Sort of how Vasilevskiy is with Tampa. But the Rangers cake is half-baked so it's not enough to go the distance. That's been the problem for 15 years.
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I meant going with the empty net, as you might have too, but I agree. He looks mentally fatigued and perhaps battling some physical injury after Carter kamikazed into him the previous game.
Is Shesterkin tired? I was listening to the Jeff Marek show on Friday. Elliotte Friedman mentioned Kelly Hrudey and Kevin Bieksa told him they felt Shersterkin looked tired to them in game 2. Elliotte didn't agree with them. Sheshterkin did look off today. He was not sharp. He looked a little tired. Mentally? Physically?
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
It wouldn't be a surprise if he was. Facing 130 shots in 8+ periods, many of them high quality would probably be very fatiguing.
PuckLuck3043
Stairway To Heaven
Possibly. He did play nearly 2 games in game 1. Maybe that is why Gallant didn't put him back in when they tied it up.
GreatSaveEssensa
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Even the best goalies have bad games. Always have always will. Other than that nothing is wrong with him. Its the truly great goalies that learn how to bounce back and forget all about it .
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Not really.
2006 - Canes win with a rookie backup
2008 - Osgood had a career .905 save percentage in the lowest scoring era in modern history
2010 - Hawks win with probably the worst starter in the NHL
2016 - Pens win with the local vagrant who lives at the gas station
2017 - Pens repeat with the local vagrant who lives at the gas station
2019 - Blues win with a rookie who has since lost the starting job
As for the rest of the winners since the lockout, Fleury won it and he's famous for his playoff meltdowns, Giguere and Crawford are very good but also played on comfortably the best teams, Quick and Hotlby have had completely average careers, and Vasilevskiy is arguably the best goalie but also the Lightning could win the Cup with a trained seal in net.
The only team since that lockout that's won the Cup that wasn't also a top 3-5 team in the league outside of goaltending, that won because of goaltending is the 2011 Bruins.
So since the lockout, you've had one goaltender carry a team to a Cup and SIX outright bad goaltenders win the Cup.
Kocur26
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Shesterkin might be the most overrated goalie in history .
I see his star burning out quickly as Sorokin becomes the premier Russian in the NHL.
This is why the Rangers wanted a goalie and NOT Othman .
They don’t fully believe either ..
I see his star burning out quickly as Sorokin becomes the premier Russian in the NHL.
This is why the Rangers wanted a goalie and NOT Othman .
They don’t fully believe either ..
will1066
If you score four, you better f'n win the game
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AirGut
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how the f*** can your mind host this opinion?
hackeyman
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I really have to disagree with you on this. You should spend as much as is required on the best goalie available. If you break it down minutes played per game per position ....Goalie dollars are bar far the best investment a team can make.
RickChartraw
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Irishguy42
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PuckLuck3043
Stairway To Heaven
I understand what you are saying and I'm not arguing that the goaltender carried the team but would those teams have won if they just received average goaltending. I seem to remember Quick, Crawford, MAF, Osgood, Vasilevskiy all having very good playoffs. We stand a much better chance if Shesty is Shesty and not the imposter that showed up tonight.
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