King'sPawn
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Glad Rosen isn't just being a mouthpiece. Blake and co deserve to hear how bad they are
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Glad Rosen isn't just being a mouthpiece. Blake and co deserve to hear how bad they are
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Rosen hasn't been roses this season in regards to Management.
Very surprising since he is paid by the Kings. Maybe he's angling to be let go so he can get away from this tire fire.
He's right though. Lombardi was let go because of poor asset management and Blake has done nothing but let assets depreciate outside of not trading picks except in the Mitchell trade.
Makes no sense to get rid of DL and still go for it when the big knock on him was that he was mortgaging the future because he was still going for it! Instead, AEG has chosen a half-ass approach of pretending to be a contender while not investing in a real rebuild.
It's called the Dave Taylor. Hopefully for this season, Blake can steer this team to the #1OA pick despite how hard he tries to pick in the #11-13 range.
Very surprising since he is paid by the Kings. Maybe he's angling to be let go so he can get away from this tire fire.
He's right though. Lombardi was let go because of poor asset management and Blake has done nothing but let assets depreciate outside of not trading picks except in the Mitchell trade.
Makes no sense to get rid of DL and still go for it when the big knock on him was that he was mortgaging the future because he was still going for it! Instead, AEG has chosen a half-ass approach of pretending to be a contender while not investing in a real rebuild.
It's called the Dave Taylor. Hopefully for this season, Blake can steer this team to the #1OA pick despite how hard he tries to pick in the #11-13 range.
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fivehole32
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Sounds like a writer soon to take a job with the El Segundo Times. The inability to toe the company line will not be tolerated!
SFKingshomer
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The fact that Blake is spinning it like he made the deal to improve this year's team is concerning.
Rosen has been on a rampage with the moves Blake has made so far this year because he has grown too attached to the people within the organization. He was clearly pissed about Stevens and has been making tweets regarding being bothered about Pearson being moved. Not that his analysis is wrong, but he is definitely pissed about losing guys he has become fond of.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
They will not admit defeat so early in the season.
It is an attempt to scare these guys in to playing harder while adding someone more useful than Pearson at the moment. When it doesn't work, he'll flip him for a pick at the deadline.
Trading Pearson for a 4th now tells the world you are giving up. Spinning it as a hockey move allows you to try to keep on fleecing the fans.
I get Blake might not have a choice because of team owners to do a mini rebuild. But what is the point of this trade. Hagelin wont be resign and walk away. Asset wasted. WTF are u thinking Blake. Come on. I get the feeling Blake is one the main reason the team is one step behind. Starts with management and having a plan. The hiring of Oates needed to happen before any of the development camps started, because it needs to become a staple of who the Kings are. We are transition and he is sort of winging it. Lets wait until its too late to do something. Not Smart at All.
Jason Squirties
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I'm not worked up on this trade at all, if anything, you've created $4m in space for a guy that was supposed to be a core part of the secondary scoring and youth that was going to take over as leaders in the room. But they've failed miserably(including Toffoli) so now the GM is having to adjust. Wouldn't you rather he adjust on the fly, managing a team is a fluid job, things don't always go how you expect them and now you need to correct those mistakes. I'm not saying Rob Blake is the smartest guy in the room but this trade will be judged on what he does with Hagelin at the deadline IMO. I'm not going to start to worry unless we see an extension signed, then we will know without certainty he hasn't the faintest clue.
Jason Squirties
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So you do get it, what is the alternative at this point? Keep Pearson and lower his trade value even more?
Butch 19
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unleash a 30 goal scorer on pittsburgh...
but I am excited about the current best mullet coming our way.
but I am excited about the current best mullet coming our way.
johnjm22
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I would have preferred to just keep Pearson and hope his play rebounds eventually.
Maybe if Hagelin starts producing he'll be worth something at the deadline, but considering he'll be playing for LA I doubt that happens.
A few years ago Pearson was a young 20 goal scorer with upside, now he's worthless. It's just incredibly frustrating. It will be even more frustrating when he inevitably starts producing in Pittsburgh.
Maybe if Hagelin starts producing he'll be worth something at the deadline, but considering he'll be playing for LA I doubt that happens.
A few years ago Pearson was a young 20 goal scorer with upside, now he's worthless. It's just incredibly frustrating. It will be even more frustrating when he inevitably starts producing in Pittsburgh.
Peter James Bond II
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"""this trade represents dreadful asset management by the organization""""
it is NOT managements fault or poor asset management, when the said 'asset' can no longer play NHL hockey,
for whatever reason(s). Tanner failed to perform in any measurable way, every single shift for 17 games.
It's magnificent asset management, to get rid of that 3.75 million dollar contract the next 2 years.
It's about getting rid of a player that can no longer play productive NHL hockey and free up cap
space the next 2 years, for BETTER PLAYERS....that space may make the difference in getting a legit
top 6 performer.
it is NOT managements fault or poor asset management, when the said 'asset' can no longer play NHL hockey,
for whatever reason(s). Tanner failed to perform in any measurable way, every single shift for 17 games.
It's magnificent asset management, to get rid of that 3.75 million dollar contract the next 2 years.
It's about getting rid of a player that can no longer play productive NHL hockey and free up cap
space the next 2 years, for BETTER PLAYERS....that space may make the difference in getting a legit
top 6 performer.
Can we f***ing get over this shit. You consistantly complain about a rumored trade that never happened and the fact that Blake hasn't moved pieces. What f***ing trades could he have made? Blake has not mortgaged the future, he has horded draft picks, while allowing the core to take shots, very similar to the Bruins method.
DL was moved on from because he traded Roland McKeown, Martin Jones, Colin Miller, Valentin Zykov, Erik Cernak, 2 1sts, and 2 5th round draft picks for f***ing rental players. The reason this team f***ing sucks right now is not because of Blake, it is because Lombardi lost sight of the team and began dumping futures.
Quit blaming Blake, he has been on the job for just over a year and was saddled with an aging core and a mostly bloated cap.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
He has to adjust on the fly, of course. Problem is that he failed miserably in assessing the team and has now pissed away an asset that held more value two months ago.
I don't feel good about the guy who thought this team was close enough to winning a Cup to try and get Patches and then sign Kovalchuk. Now he's been proven horribly wrong and has to think on his feet.
Everything he did, up until the Kovy signing, seemed slow and deliberate. Even Phaneuf/Gaborik had been bandied about while DL was still here. Then, all of a sudden, they are trading for Patches and then tossing a 3rd year to Kovy when that fell through. He had a year to assess the team and completely failed in his assessment and now gets to work from a position of weakness.
Blake continues to cuck this franchise. You couldn't write this shit. Goes from "Will they even retire his number?" to the GM of the team. Classic LA Kings. It wouldn't be so upsetting if not for getting to taste what it is like to cheer for a legit franchise for a few years.
Jason Squirties
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Ah, just more deep seated Blake hate. I get that, but at this point, this needed to be done. The best thing we can do at this point is more trades just like this. Getting rid of guys not producing and taking back players(sometimes worse) on shorter terms, we not only have a personnel problem, we have a cap problem and it's finally being addressed. He's late to the party, for better or for worse, time will tell.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Blake traded a 4th for a rental player last season.
You just named a whole lot of nothing outside of the potential of the 1st round picks.
I'm sure you thought last season was awesome and Blake did a great job. If this is currently Lombardi's fault, than last year's "success" is not a reflection of Blake.
Hoarding draft picks is not a stroke of genius and the results won't be in for quite a long time. Blake has one guy in Iafallo that has provided tangible results. That's over two full off-seasons.
It's his team. This is his mess. He chose to basically keep DL's team, scouts and the coaching staff. He doesn't get to keep doing what Lombardi was doing--outside of not trading 1st/2nd round picks--and get to say it is Lombardi's fault. He has had the power to make changes and he has been milquetoast at best.
Sorry, I gotta laugh at the bi-polar nature of this fanbase
Team sucks...make a trade...trade everyone...!! rebuild!! retool!! etc
then...
OMG he made a trade! WTF! that's horrible, how can you do that...etc.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Team sucks...make a trade...trade everyone...!! rebuild!! retool!! etc
then...
OMG he made a trade! WTF! that's horrible, how can you do that...etc.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Last years success was not a reflection on Blake, I don't think anyone ever gave him credit for it. Some attributed it to Stevens, most actually said it was due to Sutter no longer being a coach. Which reminds of another reason DL was let go, he again showed his shortsightedness and instead of moving on from Sutter he gave him an extension.
Your expectations are out of control, in fact I don't know what you want other than Blake being fired. I get it, I booed him too, I didn't think the team was going to retire his banner, but look at this situation objectively, you are falling over yourself trying to find ways to hate him. This is his team and it will take a while for him to unpack and rebuild it, you thinking that he should have more than 1 impact player brought in going into his second season shows how unrealistic you are being(also, Kovalchuk has most definitely been an impact player).
He has the power to make changes and he has been, in fact I have been impressed with his swift actions, he doesn't dwell on a situation and doesn't fall pray to sunk cost. As for your point regarding him doing the same thing Lombardi was doing, except not trading away valuable future pieces, that is kind of an oxymoron. Not trading 1sts and high end prospects for rentals is very different from what Lombardi was doing. The fact that your main complaints seem to be a rumored trade that never happened and a 4th round draft pick being traded, I would say that Blake has done just fine thus far.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
This trade is like last night's game. You know the Kings are going to get their ass kicked but it is on the schedule so it has to happen.
Pearson's value has never been lower so, yes, the return is going to be bad. It's just another flaming bag of shit on a flaming bag of shit of a season.
I don't like the return but I don't like it in the sense that this all could have been avoided. It's another result of decisions made prior to the season starting.
fsanford
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Aside from NHL all star players on the roster salary cap space is the greatest asset a team can have, and right now the Kings are asset poor.
Kings need to continue to try an shed, because at some point teams like Jets, Leaf's and other contenders who lots of stocked minor leagues systems will have cap issues and will look to flip assets for cap relief.
You can pick up some quality players in that help build your depth.
To me this is how you go about trying to fix years of trading away picks and not building a strong farm system
Kings need to continue to try an shed, because at some point teams like Jets, Leaf's and other contenders who lots of stocked minor leagues systems will have cap issues and will look to flip assets for cap relief.
You can pick up some quality players in that help build your depth.
To me this is how you go about trying to fix years of trading away picks and not building a strong farm system
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Blake was a better GM than Lombardi after only three months last season.
My biggest complaint with Blake is that he has still tried to ram this flawed team down our throats as a contender and has damaged the team's long term outlook by doing so.
I'm not saying he should be fired. I'm not calling for it; however, this is completely his mess at this point. He got his year to assess what he had, said "I like this and want to add a $6MM 35 year old UFA" and is now residing over the team's worst start in 30 years.
I'm on the record giving him a ton of leeway last season and wasn't judging him as he needed time to figure out what he had, even though he's been around these players for years already. Well, his first totally-his-franchise off-season resulted in where we are today: watching the most lifeless Kings squad I've ever seen.
He deserves criticism. The players deserve it as well but, shit man, these guys already fooled Lombardi in the past and Blake fell for it too when everyone should have known better.
KINGS17
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Pearson may go on and do some good things in Pittsburgh. If he does, I don't think he would have done those good things in the current LA environment.
Ziggy Stardust
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