Player Discussion Pavel Mintyukov
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AngelDuck
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It’s possible for Mintyukov and Drysdale to both be really good
CrazyDuck4u
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Might be our future 1-2 pairing..
WhatTheDuck
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I should have fully committed haha knew this kid was an NHLer this year
AngelDuck
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I absolutely think it will be and I think with Mintyukov willingness to play physical it’s actually a great match
Going to SHRED teams in transition for many years
I've been more impressed with Minty than Carlsson. Maybe impressed isn't the word but surprised? Minty has been significantly better than I expected him to be at this age while Carlsson has only been slightly better than I expected going into training camp. The big surprise with Carlsson has been the skating, mostly the explosive skating and creating separation. Minty I feel like has been better than expected at virtually every aspect of the game except offense and skating (not that he's been bad, but I thought he'd be all offense and very little defense and we all knew he was a good skater). His defense has been amazing and the physicality has been shocking... that's one aspect I never thought he'd have. I was at the Dallas game and didn't see what led to players having an issue with him, is he agitating other teams too? It would be great to have a good D that can do everything and get under the other team's skin.
The Midnight Burrito
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If Minty keeps up this play all season, IF IF IF, and he played in a market that wasn't Anaheim, he'd have to get Calder consideration at the end of the year, regardless of what Carlsson does.
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It would be our version of the Toews-Makar pairing. The players aren’t necessarily comparable 1-for-1 but there are some similarities and together it seems like they could have a similar impact.
I don't give a shit about Calder recognition. Just makes him harder to lock up.
If he keeps this up then the summer of 2026 is going to SUCK. Carlsson, Zegras, Minty, LaCombe, and Drysdale...
All Mighty
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LaCombe is an RFA after this season. Zellweger is an RFA in 2026, though. So are Gaucher and Hinds, but they should be pretty cheap even if they become full time NHL players by then.
Good catch. IDK why I thought LaCombe was also up in the same year.
The point remains though. If Minty keeps it up, Carlsson becomes the player we expect, Zegras continues to get better, and Drysdale becomes a solid #2, those 4 are going to cost 40 mil lol.
One or two guys may end up being shipped out (not necessarily from your list), but we should be able to get good value and guys more suited to play with the remaining players. At the moment, it looks like Carlsson will be the guy for forwards and our defense will be built around Minty (though it's really early to say for sure). This is assuming that most of the prospects keep trending up and hit, there is no guarantee on that. It is always better to have too many guys that hit and having to make decisions than not enough guys hitting, though.
AngelDuck
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I don’t expect the 4 of them to cost 40 mil but certainly think 30-35ish is possible. They’re all going to be RFAs so it would be a bit surprising really if any of them got 11-12 million.
I would gladly pay it to them if they’re really that good. Gibson and Fowler will be coming off the books shortly after and can hopefully be replaced with cheap internal options
Have to draft well
I would gladly pay it to them if they’re really that good. Gibson and Fowler will be coming off the books shortly after and can hopefully be replaced with cheap internal options
Have to draft well
Deuce22
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It is early, but we can all see the traits of a great NHL defenseman. Skating, instincts, stick work, willingness to be physical, vision, shot, and calm demeanor. Doesn't mean he's going to be a #1 stud D, but the tools are all there.
Hockey Duckie
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In 2021-22, Fowler had a career high in points with 42 points. Rookie Drysdale notched 32 points as a 19-year old. Eakins' offensive scheme of pinching d-men is what we're still continuing now. Minchy and Zell thrive in the pinching d-men offensive scheme to where I'm ecstatic to have both.
Minchy didn't look good at the rookie tourney, but got better during pre-season. He is improving each game. Mintyukov going to the NHL wasn't a matter of "if", but a matter of "when". That "when" is now.
Every team has pinching d-men. Fortunately, the current defensive system bears no resemblance to anything Eakins ran. Are you actually defending the defensive system Eakins ran? Based on the fact that Fowler scored points? I don't really think that's the right metric for evaluating a defensive system.
Hockey Duckie
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I'm not defending the defensive system, I'm identifying our offensive scheme. You may not have watched a lot of Ducks hockey to know that Eakins was pushing for all his defensemen to pinch down and often. We even had stay-at-home D Hakanpaa with an infamous reply to Eakins, "Me too, coach?"
If you're dead set on not seeing things, then that's on you and no one's gonna change your mind. If you don't think Fowler setting career highs in two consecutive seasons nor rookie Drysdale scoring 32 points under Eakins doesn't change your mind, then nothing will.
It is so funny (and typical) that you think anyone who challenges your opinion is less informed. I have probably seen 95% of the ducks games over the last 20 years and lots of other games on top of that.
But since you're so knowledgeable, which teams in the modern NHL tell their d-men not to pinch? I'll wait. That was not the "Eakins system" - it is what every team does.
And in terms of the duck's/eakins' offensive scheme, they were historically bad at both offense and defense last year (really the entire Eakins tenure). Now that he's gone, there are no longer wide open guys in front of the goal every game even though they are playing a ton of young guys . . . not a coincidence. And they actually have a functioning offense which, althought not terribly productive, is far better to the eye and based on advanced stats. Coaching matters.
You accuse me of being "dead set" but you're the guy who reflexively defends Murray and Eakins (as evidenced above), pumps the same guys relentlessly, and refuses to ever concede even the smallest point. Under Eakins the Ducks were historically bad, but here you are defending him in your typically condescending fashion.
So I impressed by this kid. I’m trying to think of what defensemen he reminds me of. A young Heiskanen? Who do you guys see?
Not trying to get too ahead of myself, he has a long way to go to be Heiskanen, more just referencing play style.
Not trying to get too ahead of myself, he has a long way to go to be Heiskanen, more just referencing play style.
Smirnov2Chistov
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Am I the only one who thinks Mintyukov looks more 'dynamic' than Drysdale?
Not at all. Drysdale had shining moments, but Minty has had a better stretch of games then Drysdale has ever had in his career so far.
He is legit.
DavidBL
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To be fair, Minty never had to play for Eakins.
True lol. But the other areas have impressed me too. He is so smart when he picks his spots to get in on the rush. I havent watched last game but I can't remember him making a bad decision to get up on the rush where it equaled an odd man rush the other way.
He is just so patient and holds the line perfectly.
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