Player Discussion Pavel Mintyukov

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+4000 Calder odds. Just placed a very small bet, first time in my 30+ years I’ve ever gambled on anything lol. So if his play starts tanking you know why.

Edit: just not saw they had him at +7000 a week ago. Sheesh
I mean for him to win over guys like Bedard, Cooley, Fantilli, Carlsson, etc, he truly would have to have an exceptional borderline Norris candidate season, so those odds are somewhat realistic
 
I mean for him to win over guys like Bedard, Cooley, Fantilli, Carlsson, etc, he truly would have to have an exceptional borderline Norris candidate season, so those odds are somewhat realistic
Agreed. He would have to put up damn near 60 points while playing plus defense. And the Ducks will have to be in the playoffs for him to beat Bedard. The Bedard hype machine is super real and combine it with the obvious east coast bias,and Minty would have probably be top 10 in the Norris voting to beat him.
 
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I legitimately believe that this kid can go on to be one of the best players Anaheim has ever drafted.

The level he's already at with plenty of room for growth is mind boggling. Like I was on the Leo hype train to start the year but I'm starting to get more excited to watch Minty at this point.

And getting him at tenth overall is just amazing icing on the cake. 9 teams may go on to seriously regret not giving this guy a closer look.
 
I legitimately believe that this kid can go on to be one of the best players Anaheim has ever drafted.

The level he's already at with plenty of room for growth is mind boggling. Like I was on the Leo hype train to start the year but I'm starting to get more excited to watch Minty at this point.

And getting him at tenth overall is just amazing icing on the cake. 9 teams may go on to seriously regret not giving this guy a closer look.
He makes the game a must watch, every shift he is making plays that you come to expect from vets, but he’s barely getting his feet wet
 
If Anaheim can stay competitive for the season the league will take notice and start looking into why. He's going to be one of the main factors if he continues this but it's only 10 games...he will hit the rookie wall at some point nobody is really immune, then we gotta see how long it lasts.

But the talent is clear and obvious for all to see. I wouldn't be surprised if he's had a growth spurt he just seems bigger than what he's listed
 
Agreed. He would have to put up damn near 60 points while playing plus defense. And the Ducks will have to be in the playoffs for him to beat Bedard. The Bedard hype machine is super real and combine it with the obvious east coast bias,and Minty would have probably be top 10 in the Norris voting to beat him.
Agreed even though Bedard has been incredibly pedestrian so far
 
Thought you were talking about @Leonardo87

was going to have to strongly disagree
Nah that guy sucks



just kidding

Agreed even though Bedard has been incredibly pedestrian so far
What did people expect given his shitty team? It wouldn't surprise me if the debate for the Calder is between Mintyukov and L.Hughes by the end of the year
 
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Nah that guy sucks



just kidding


What did people expect given his shitty team? It wouldn't surprise me if the debate for the Calder is between Mintyukov and L.Hughes by the end of the year

I think cooley fantilli and Rossi will stick around, some combination of those 6
 
Barring sophomore slumps, which seem to be more common for defenceman than forwards.
A defense sophomore slump makes sense to me. To impress in their rookie year usually means to put up a good amount of points, so I can see why the pendulum would swing back to focusing more on defense in a sophomore season and really honing that skill.
 
The league and opposing teams are beginning to wake up to Mintyukov also. Opposing forwards are going to start finishing their checks. Teams will take him into the crease to negate his skating and rough him up a bit battling for position. They will be waiting for him to pinch down and join the attack on rushes.

He's passed his initial tests in early games with flying colors. Let's see how the next 10-20 games go for him.

Minty may become one of those special players whose combination of skills, IQ, and compete will enable him to continue to excel in the league, but I keep reminding myself that is he is only 19 ... and he's already showing signs of being scary good.
 
I have little doubt there will be some ups and downs with Mintyukov. The NHL season is long and grueling, and the league gets tougher as teams get tape on you and you are no longer sneaking up on anyone.

However, we can't un-see what he has done. I think the biggest reason why we are all so excited is it is quite clear this is not a flash in the pan and he is not limited by an incomplete toolbox; he is so consistent at both ends of the ice. Yes, he has splash plays, but those are just a cherry on top to the high level and sustainable excellent two-way play.
 
Just to make my own fanboy post...

He isn't making glaring mistakes. He is making mistakes at the same rate as any veteran player... or rather at the rate of good veteran players.

His good choices (joining the rush) aren't just excellent displays of his talent, but he deserves massive credit for making positive decisions. Like he isn't just playing it safe or limiting himself.

What I am saying, is that its cool that he isn't making mistakes, but its incredibly impressive all the great decisions he is making. Combine that with the apparent physical ability and talent to pull off all those good decisions and IDK what his ceiling is.
 
The league and opposing teams are beginning to wake up to Mintyukov also. Opposing forwards are going to start finishing their checks. Teams will take him into the crease to negate his skating and rough him up a bit battling for position. They will be waiting for him to pinch down and join the attack on rushes.

He's passed his initial tests in early games with flying colors. Let's see how the next 10-20 games go for him.

Minty may become one of those special players whose combination of skills, IQ, and compete will enable him to continue to excel in the league, but I keep reminding myself that is he is only 19 ... and he's already showing signs of being scary good.
It'll be interesting to see the following games after that too. NHL teams/players will make adjustments to deal with him over that time, but then he might have the IQ to adjust to the adjustment. I agree that there will probably be a slight slump coming soon (though we do play a lot more "bad" teams coming up soon mixed in with the good ones). Hopefully he can pad his stats in that Sharks game coming up.
 
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I think the load management could be good for Pavel as well, just maybe not to the extent of Carlsson's.
I think Mintyukov is built a lot different than leo.... hes already got a mans frame on him. If he starts to show signs of needing a break sure... but right now hes been arguably our best player.

with how our LHD look right now Fowler- Mintyukov - Lacombe - Vaaks.. im not even opposed to just rotating a guy out here and there.
 
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I think Mintyukov is built a lot different than leo.... hes already got a mans frame on him. If he starts to show signs of needing a break sure... but right now hes been arguably our best player.

with how our LHD look right now Fowler- Mintyukov - Lacombe - Vaaks.. im not even opposed to just rotating a guy out here and there.

Players bounce off of him, and that's super impressive for a 19 year old. I don't know if it's his frame, his balance, strength, etc.
 
I think Mintyukov is built a lot different than leo.... hes already got a mans frame on him. If he starts to show signs of needing a break sure... but right now hes been arguably our best player.

with how our LHD look right now Fowler- Mintyukov - Lacombe - Vaaks.. im not even opposed to just rotating a guy out here and there.

Minchy has been playing over 66 games for the past two seasons in the OHL with top-pairing minutes. Last season, he played 80 games total in the OHL, playoffs included. The schedule isn't that far off from the NHL schedule. Carlsson's been playing in the SHL schedule and at wing not on the top line for the past two seasons. People keep trying to compare apples to apples, when there's several factors that are different.

While Minchy does reach over 20 minutes on some nights, the top-pairing does help prevent Minchy from playing over 20 minutes a game.

Currently, all four LHD are playing in each game. LaCombe is our top pairing RHD. If Drysdale returns, then we could rotate players. Hell, I'd consider rotating Gudas out too until his body finally catches up to speed and stamina.
 
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Minchy has been playing over 66 games for the past two seasons in the OHL with top-pairing minutes. Last season, he played 80 games total in the OHL, playoffs included. The schedule isn't that far off from the NHL schedule. Carlsson's been playing in the SHL schedule and at wing not on the top line for the past two seasons. People keep trying to compare apples to apples, when there's several factors that are different.

While Minchy does reach over 20 minutes on some nights, the top-pairing does help prevent Minchy from playing over 20 minutes a game.

Currently, all four LHD are playing in each game. LaCombe is our top pairing RHD. If Drysdale returns, then we could rotate players. Hell, I'd consider rotating Gudas out too until his body finally catches up to speed and stamina.
LaCombe is only with Fowler because Drysdale is injured. I guess they are the top pair because they both kill penalties and play the most minutes. But they haven't been the best pair. I would prefer LaCombe on a pairing where his offense could shine. I do like the idea of rotating guys out when Drysdale returns.
 
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That hip check he threw into the boards WHILE still covering his original guy was awesome.
Think i need to get a Minty#34 jersey to pair with my Vish#6
 

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