Confirmed with Link: Panthers sign Dave Bolland (5x5.5)

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Dread Clawz

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What is Tallon doing? Spending money on the Bollands of the world is only going to screw us more long term. 5.5 mil....did he stop watching the nhl these last two years? His blind love for his boys will be his downfall. The bolland move reeks of desperation. I get the feeling Tallon is grasping for straws at this point and this is the best he could do. I don't think he lasts another year, but we'll see. I also think he sees bolland as a 1-2C. Once again, this team passing off 3rd liners as top 6 talent......

There's no way he sees Bolland as better than Barkov, let's get real.
 

Dread Clawz

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We haven't even reached the cap floor, we can't say that yet. If we just resign our RFAs from this point, that's hardly a big bump.

Also, last owners were willing to spend money one offseason. Things change quickly. It's also a lot easier to pay for a player than to pay to get rid of a player.

We just bought out Jovo. We also took on Luongos absurd contract.
 

Rattrick

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What is Tallon doing? Spending money on the Bollands of the world is only going to screw us more long term. 5.5 mil....did he stop watching the nhl these last two years? His blind love for his boys will be his downfall. The bolland move reeks of desperation. I get the feeling Tallon is grasping for straws at this point and this is the best he could do. I don't think he lasts another year, but we'll see. I also think he sees bolland as a 1-2C. Once again, this team passing off 3rd liners as top 6 talent......

I agree!
 

YoungNastyman

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Leaf fan here. I was really hoping we'd sign Bolland but it was clear that he was asking too much. He claimed he wanted to stay in Toronto but signed in Florida for (reportedly) only 600k more per year.

Anyway, yeah he's being overpaid at 5.5 and it's a risky contract, but at least you know you're getting a good player. Before he got injured with the Leafs, he played great. He is clever on the ice and knows what it takes to win. And it's still a better contract than the one we gave to Clarkson.

I think if he is able to get healthy and stay healthy, Panthers fans will be very pleased to have him on the team. Give it some time to see how things turn out.
 

PanthersFanatic12

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I am sure tallon check bolland physical health before making this deal. Some of you are saying oh tallon should have signed bolland to 2 million less or 2-3 years , failing to realize that those terms would not get bolland to sign here. Tallon knows bolland , and what he can do and bring. Was the terms great , no , but not much we can do .

Can we try to look at the positive, and hope for the best ? Lets be excited and welcome bolland to our team . There is no need for anymore , i hate this contract posts
 

Dread Clawz

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So we paid 5.5$ for basically Jovo who we just bought out? And no, he isn't physical.

Hes a good player, much better than Jovo. I specifically said the contract is terrible.

What is your definition of physical? He's not Too too, but he's grittier than all our forwards except Thornton. And maybe Mackenzie. Tied with Upshall. Look where the Cup winning goal was scored. He gets his hands dirty.
 

Dread Clawz

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...All to get to the salary floor. I'm not saying we aren't going over, but owners have hardly done anything so far but allow Dale to spend Pejorative Slured money on mediocre talent.

Well unless we offered Vanek and Moulson both the max, it wouldn't be any different. I guess you have sort of a point, but there's no real way to prove it. These owners are ponying up more than anyone else before. The real test will be in the coming years when Huby, Barkov, and Ekblad come off their ELCs.
 

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Well unless we offered Vanek and Moulson both the max, it wouldn't be any different. I guess you have sort of a point, but there's no real way to prove it. These owners are ponying up more than anyone else before. The real test will be in the coming years when Huby, Barkov, and Ekblad come off their ELCs.

Yea, just frustrating to see Dale constantly spend so badly on free agents. I get so excited around draft time and then so mad when free agency starts.
 

Panteras

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It’s only 3-0 who cares
What you guys don't understand is he has the experience of winning the cup, so his value will become more evident to everyone once we're deep into our cup run next year ; )
 

canucks22

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Hate this deal so much...I mean if he can actually stay healthy it might actually work out. But with Bolland, over another 5 years, that's unlikely.
 

Hagged

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Some of the things I noticed in the extraskater stat sheets:

Bolland is a QoC specialist. He played as heavy QoC in Blackhawks and Leafs as Barkov did in late last season for the Panthers. So obviously he is exactly the type of player you put in a shut down role to get the best out of your offensive lines. He can produce at 40 point pace with third line talent against the best lines in the NHL, so I'd think he is around the same as Barkov was last season for the Panthers, if he stays healthy. But if he does that, it might mean Barkov doesn't need to go against the Toews' and Getzlafs of the league and it might open up more offensive chances and less running in the D-zone for Bjugs/Barkov lines.

I was actually hoping the Panthers would have gotten Komarov for a shut down role, but I guess even 3.5 wouldn't have been enough to lure him out of Toronto as they offered close to 3 million. That in mind I think this was maybe an overpayment of 750k, around the same kind of overpayment as I would have expected to be needed to get Komarov.

Barkov played +/- 0 against the top lines of the league. Well that's great in all other ways, but it would have been nice to have him getting the O-zone starts and the easy match-ups to get his line scoring. Now either Barkov or Bjugs will get some easier matchups, Bolland makes that possible.

EDIT: Bolland actually can up his game in the play-offs (11-12 and 12-13 season)
 

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#FlaPanthers GM Dale Tallon says that they cut the term down and raised the salary a bit to get the Bolland deal done.
 

Hagged

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Go check Bolland 2012-13 4v5 HARO HARD HART on hockeyanalysis
:laugh:

Over 57000 offensive rating. 28 000 total rating (considers both defense and offense the player brings). I don't know how that rating is given but I understood everything bigger than 0 is above average. Next best is 100 (Malkin's 5 on 4 HARD (defensive rating) from that season)

 

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