Confirmed with Link: Panarin taking leave of absence from NYR (Warning in First Post)

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Cmox

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It appears that Panarin did fly to Russia to file a lawsuit against Nazarov

Панарин улетел в Россию.
artemy Panarin left America

New York Rangers forward Artemy Panarin has flown to Russia, according to tv channel ThrashHockey.
The forward is preparing a libel suit against former Vityaz coach Andrei Nazarov. The Russian specialist stated that in 2011, as a player of "Vityaz", Panarin first tried to rape, and then beat an 18-year-old girl in Riga.
Panarin was accused of beating the girl, Rangers sent the player on vacation at his own expense. All the details of the scandal
Rangers released a statement saying that Panarin denies all the charges and the story is fabricated and promised to help Artemis figure out the case, but still put him on leave indefinitely.
The day before, a friend of the hockey player Roman Luduchin said that Panarin will soon return to the ice. According to him, this should happen in one of the next matches.
Panarin played 14 games in the NHL regular season, throwing five pucks and giving up 13 assists. Without him, Rangers have already played three games: they lost twice and won once.
 
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artemy Panarin left America

New York Rangers forward Artemy Panarin has flown to Russia, according to tv channel ThrashHockey.
The forward is preparing a libel suit against former Vityaz coach Andrei Nazarov. The Russian specialist stated that in 2011, as a player of "Vityaz", Panarin first tried to rape, and then beat an 18-year-old girl in Riga.
Panarin was accused of beating the girl, Rangers sent the player on vacation at his own expense. All the details of the scandal
Rangers released a statement saying that Panarin denies all the charges and the story is fabricated and promised to help Artemis figure out the case, but still put him on leave indefinitely.
The day before, a friend of the hockey player Roman Luduchin said that Panarin will soon return to the ice. According to him, this should happen in one of the next matches.
Panarin played 14 games in the NHL regular season, throwing five pucks and giving up 13 assists. Without him, Rangers have already played three games: they lost twice and won once.

He is currently in Russia? If this is the case how will be back in the next few matches? Doesn't he have to quarantine when he gets back to the US?
If this is the case who knows how long he will even stay in Russia?
 

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He is currently in Russia? If this is the case how will be back in the next few matches? Doesn't he have to quarantine when he gets back to the US?
If this is the case who knows how long he will even stay in Russia?
During pregame they said he’s skating but not ready yet. So I dunno what the protocol is. Im assuming he’s returned if he’s skating ?
 
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During pregame they said he’s skating but not ready yet. So I dunno what the protocol is. Im assuming he’s returned if he’s skating ?
I sure hope he's back in the US. If not I am pretty sure he would have to quarantine at least 10 days just like Laine did when he came to Columbus from Canada. March is a crazy month with so many games. If we plan to make any kind of push for the playoffs it would be nice to get him back sooner rather than later.
 

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During pregame they said he’s skating but not ready yet. So I dunno what the protocol is. Im assuming he’s returned if he’s skating ?

If he's in or been to Russia he won't be skating with the team until the quarantine period is over and he won't be playing until that quarantine period is over either.
 
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Nazarov initially did make an accusations, going as far as saying police were bribed.
Yeah, citing 40k eur which everybody laughed at. I didn't even feel it could be taken at face value, thus ignored in my evaluations.
But he's backtracking now with "I've sold you the info, now you decide yourselves" shtick. I mean he recently said Anisin's comments proved him right (even though Anisin disproved everything).
exactly
Lol we have a full blown soviet propaganda machine posting in here
Lol indeed
“Panarin has been skating, but still not ready yet”

Giannone - Rangers pregame
Finally that's great news indeed. Could you post a link please?
 

tlk

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As for vodka, you're making a grave mistake thinking that what now passes for "vodka" in the Russian supermarkets is a liquor comparable to say brandy or whiskey or the like. Unlike the mentioned respected drinks, modern vodka sold in Russia is a rectified spirit, and sadly very much has a taste and a smell. Of pure alcohol that is, which I personally find disgusting. It's not a "taste" drink, it's not to be sipped or savoured. In other words, it's there not to drink, but to get drunk. They don't keep it in the freezer and gulp down fast because it's tasty...
The traditional Russian national hard liquor drink is a type of grain distillate, aka "samogon", literally meaning self-distilled. It's a thoroughly distilled (up to triple) and filtered (eg with charcoal and/or egg white) drink, having a *very* smooth taste, not a hint of alcohol in it, despite the high proof, and a faint smell of rye bread.
The modern vodka only appeared in the end of 19th century, with the rectification columns appearing in Russia, as a means for the Tzar govmnt to easily tax the mass sales of a much simpler made "drink". In the 20th cent after the revolution the Bolshies were happy to carry on the tradition, in the true commie vein of making stuff as simple to produce as possible, and mostly of horrible quality for the end user. But the end user didn't care and doesn't to this day.
 

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It appears that Panarin did fly to Russia to file a lawsuit against Nazarov

Панарин улетел в Россию.
Which just quotes an anonymous Telegram channel. Besides this, there's zero news in the linked article.

The channels called TrashHockey btw (sports a Voorhees-style hockey mask with a clown's red nose for an avatar). And glancing over its content, it just posts typical sensationalist stuff, in a distinctive style usual for Telegram. Including that some shady Latvian fixer "smuggled Bread from Riga's Radisson in the boot of his car". Whether to take this stuff seriously I'll leave it to you Sirs.
 
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So this totally escalated. RIP my fantasy hockey. :D I hope he will be back at some point, is there any information about that?
 

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As for vodka, you're making a grave mistake thinking that what now passes for "vodka" in the Russian supermarkets is a liquor comparable to say brandy or whiskey or the like. Unlike the mentioned respected drinks, modern vodka sold in Russia is a rectified spirit, and sadly very much has a taste and a smell. Of pure alcohol that is, which I personally find disgusting. It's not a "taste" drink, it's not to be sipped or savoured. In other words, it's there not to drink, but to get drunk. They don't keep it in the freezer and gulp down fast because it's tasty...
The traditional Russian national hard liquor drink is a type of grain distillate, aka "samogon", literally meaning self-distilled. It's a thoroughly distilled (up to triple) and filtered (eg with charcoal and/or egg white) drink, having a *very* smooth taste, not a hint of alcohol in it, despite the high proof, and a faint smell of rye bread.
The modern vodka only appeared in the end of 19th century, with the rectification columns appearing in Russia, as a means for the Tzar govmnt to easily tax the mass sales of a much simpler made "drink". In the 20th cent after the revolution the Bolshies were happy to carry on the tradition, in the true commie vein of making stuff as simple to produce as possible, and mostly of horrible quality for the end user. But the end user didn't care and doesn't to this day.

So it’s pretty much like Everclear which is 95% alcohol and is straight rocket fuel. I use Everclear when I make my Italian Limoncello.
 

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So it’s pretty much like Everclear which is 95% alcohol and is straight rocket fuel. I use Everclear when I make my Italian Limoncello.

Tangent, but I remember one of the first shots I did was of 151 and I sure as shit didn't take the whole thing. I'm still recovering from that 15 years later.

Limoncello is a nice little dessert drink, although the everclear would probably make me fight anyone trying to take my cannolis..
 

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As for vodka, you're making a grave mistake thinking that what now passes for "vodka" in the Russian supermarkets is a liquor comparable to say brandy or whiskey or the like. Unlike the mentioned respected drinks, modern vodka sold in Russia is a rectified spirit, and sadly very much has a taste and a smell. Of pure alcohol that is, which I personally find disgusting. It's not a "taste" drink, it's not to be sipped or savoured. In other words, it's there not to drink, but to get drunk. They don't keep it in the freezer and gulp down fast because it's tasty...
The traditional Russian national hard liquor drink is a type of grain distillate, aka "samogon", literally meaning self-distilled. It's a thoroughly distilled (up to triple) and filtered (eg with charcoal and/or egg white) drink, having a *very* smooth taste, not a hint of alcohol in it, despite the high proof, and a faint smell of rye bread.
The modern vodka only appeared in the end of 19th century, with the rectification columns appearing in Russia, as a means for the Tzar govmnt to easily tax the mass sales of a much simpler made "drink". In the 20th cent after the revolution the Bolshies were happy to carry on the tradition, in the true commie vein of making stuff as simple to produce as possible, and mostly of horrible quality for the end user. But the end user didn't care and doesn't to this day.

Whenever my wife visits Russia, I send one bottle of good tequila and one bottle of either a good bourbon or Cognac XO along with her to give her brother. There is definitely a refined tasted for spirits existent in Russia, and no, it isn't fulfilled by vodka.

I tried samogonka once, and actually found it very crude compared to the Russian export vodkas I've tried here in the US. I'm told that a higher quality of vodka is exported than you typically find domestically in Russia, and that makes sense to me.
 

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*really* depends on what actually was that you've tried. The rule of thumb is rectified (aka vodka) == bad. Distilled (properly) == good.

+1000
A single malt obviously, or a 100% American rye (eg Roughstock Montana Rye)

Must have been rectified, because like I said, it was crude, bordering on rancid.

*** Or a good quality peaty Scotch
 

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I know a bunch of guys at the NY Times. They had a REALLY good day at the office that day -- none of them wrote this article, but lets just say there were no shortage of volunteers! :laugh:

I wonder how accurate that study was though. Smirnoff was probably chosen because it's the most familiar taste.
 

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I wonder how accurate that study was though. Smirnoff was probably chosen because it's the most familiar taste.
It's possible. I don't think it ever claimed to be a proper study, but from what was written (and what I was told), it was a totally blind taste test with a *ahem* wide sampling of participants. I think with the wide availability of different vodka brands, there probably isn't really a "familiar" brand. As I recall from the article, the participants were surprised to find out they'd chosen Smirnoff.

This comes back to the idea that vodka tastes effectively of nothing, and Smirnoff is on the mark with that. Personally, I do think some other vodkas have a pleasant weight to their mouthfeel, but maybe that actually might count against them for good vodka purists. Ultimately of course, whether you prefer Grey Goose, Stoli, Smirnoff, or Babushka's Special 180-proof Lighter Fluid is up to the individual. As long as it gives you pleasure, that's the only thing that counts.
 
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