Injury Report: Pacioretty ruptures his Achilles again - placed on season ending IR

[Canes]

1st liner Stefan Noesen, you're our only hope

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Well, I wasn’t really happy with our off-season anyway.

 

[chaz4hockey]

UGH

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Patrick Kane, TJ Miller or Timo Meier?

TJ Miller sucks

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Well, the Cap ain't an issue anymore. Gymnastics it is. What a huge opportunity for the left-handed group of Suzuki, Rees, and Drury, among others, to cement themselves as future lineup fixtures. Next men up!

 

[LeapOnOver]

Hearing this is just cap shenanigans ala Kucherov and he really only has achilles tendinitis and the 'surgery' is a new butterfly tattoo on his ankle.

 

[Francis10]

Imagine we sign Kessel, he sees how hard Rod works in the gym, he follows his lead, he then gets in best shape of life, snipes 40Gs for Canes.

 

[Diehard Devil]

So the Hurricanes seem to have a new insider on news, huh? Saw some twitter thats called 2-3 things this last four months but then deletes it. Seems he wants some secrecy.

Unfortunate Pacioretty goes down but if theres a team that can survive this and then be greatly helped by his scoring in his return, its Carolina (unfortunately)

 

[LakeLivin]

1st liner Stefan Noesen, you're our only hope

I know you're kidding, but the Borg did just give Noesen a contract that guarantees him at least $550k this season and a 1-way deal next year. That's a lot more than any other 2-way contract I can recall them giving out, which leads me to believe that they do project him to see a reasonable amount of time with the Canes this season. Obviously not on the 1st line, and I know AHL results don't necessarily project to the NHL, but man did he rack up the points with the Wolves last year. 48 goals/ 85 points in 70 regular season games and 9 goals/ 25 points in 18 playoff games are some pretty gaudy stats. Could he end up being a pleasant surprise for the Canes this season?

 

[ClarkBolzano]

Well Nino hasn't been in our top 6 for a few years, that hole is on Staal's 3rd line, and potentially replaced by Kase, Drury, etc.

Tro is directly replaced by Kotkaniemi, certainly a question mark but that's independent of the Patches injury and would be a question mark even if this injury didn't happen.

We didn't have Patches before so we're not really any worse in the top 6 on the wing than we have been. Necas has pretty much been a staple in the top 6 the last 2 years and even when he was struggling down the stretch and demoted we didn't exactly have a much better player stepping up in his place. Who even was it -- Martinook? Domi? Nino was never taken off Staal's wing, nor was Fast. Koko tried wing earlier in the year, failed spectacularly and from then on never left the middle.

Nino is a minor loss, solid player who I loved having here but not an impact player and he's a guy who can be replaced. The injury is a concern because Patches was a clear scoring upgrade on the wing in the top 6 that would help mitigate the JK question mark at center and could help take us over the edge compared to the last few years but it's not season altering or anything to me.

The Problem ist that Koko ist Not nearly as good as Tro. This is das but true. Always Hearing From everywhere He will step Up but its Not that easy. Not everybody can do that. Why did Montreal let him Go? They Had enough time to find Out of there ist sth. Or Not. Not saying He is Not a good Player.

 

[Vagrant]

So the Hurricanes seem to have a new insider on news, huh? Saw some twitter thats called 2-3 things this last four months but then deletes it. Seems he wants some secrecy.

Unfortunate Pacioretty goes down but if theres a team that can survive this and then be greatly helped by his scoring in his return, its Carolina (unfortunately)

makes you wonder what changed... I think we're seeing some thaw

 

[AD Skinner]

A trail of hot dogs will lead our savior to us…

I'm all about it

 

[TomppaKoo]

Put MaxPac in LTIR and bring in Kadri for a rich, short-term deal. Kadri would be such a perfect add-on to the Canes as a 2C.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Remember when Pacioretty showed up at halftime and Mud Dogs won the Bourbon Bowl?

 

[StorminSnvechnAho]

The Problem ist that Koko ist Not nearly as good as Tro. This is das but true. Always Hearing From everywhere He will step Up but its Not that easy. Not everybody can do that. Why did Montreal let him Go? They Had enough time to find Out of there ist sth. Or Not. Not saying He is Not a good Player.

He was a 51 point player last season, at the dot is were he will be hard to replace.... I could easily see Necas/Jarvis winning #2C pending what moves we make....

 

[Svechhammer]

He was a 51 point player last season, at the dot is were he will be hard to replace.... I could easily see Necas/Jarvis winning #2C pending what moves we make....

Lol no

Necas and Jarvis will stay wing. We aren't going to waste time trying to convert a Winger to Center when we are trying to win a Cup, and certainly not at 2C.

We'll trade to bring in someone before we do that

 

[StorminSnvechnAho]

Lol no

Necas and Jarvis will stay wing. We aren't going to waste time trying to convert a Winger to Center when we are trying to win a Cup, and certainly not at 2C.

We'll trade to bring in someone before we do that

They are both natural Cs just so you know.....

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

They are both natural Cs just so you know.....

I’m thought Jarvis was a winger in the WHL before we drafted him? Every draft profile I’ve seen/read say he was a winger, even if they list him as C/W.

Didn’t he also play wing in his brief AHL stint?

 

[Chrispy]

He was a 51 point player last season, at the dot is were he will be hard to replace.... I could easily see Necas/Jarvis winning #2C pending what moves we make....

Kotkaniemi had 25 points 5v5 in 700 minutes.
Trocheck had 31 points 5v5 in nearly 1000 minutes.

Trocheck added in 12 points on the PP and another 8 points in reduced man (4v4, 3v3) situations where Kotkaniemi rarely played.

Will Kotkaniemi need to step up? Yes, especially since the player I saw as the PP replacement (Pacioretty) is now hurt. But replacing Trocheck's point production from 21-22 is not the impossible task being described.

 

[StorminSnvechnAho]

Kotkaniemi had 25 points 5v5 in 700 minutes.
Trocheck had 31 points 5v5 in nearly 1000 minutes.

Trocheck added in 12 points on the PP and another 8 points in reduced man (4v4, 3v3) situations where Kotkaniemi rarely played.

Will Kotkaniemi need to step up? Yes, especially since the player I saw as the PP replacement (Pacioretty) is now hurt. But replacing Trocheck's point production from 21-22 is not the impossible task you describe.

I didn't describe it as impossible lol. I was saying it isn't as difficult as some think.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Well Nino hasn't been in our top 6 for a few years, that hole is on Staal's 3rd line, and potentially replaced by Kase, Drury, etc.

Tro is directly replaced by Kotkaniemi, certainly a question mark but that's independent of the Patches injury and would be a question mark even if this injury didn't happen.

We didn't have Patches before so we're not really any worse in the top 6 on the wing than we have been. Necas has pretty much been a staple in the top 6 the last 2 years and even when he was struggling down the stretch and demoted we didn't exactly have a much better player stepping up in his place. Who even was it -- Martinook? Domi? Nino was never taken off Staal's wing, nor was Fast. Koko tried wing earlier in the year, failed spectacularly and from then on never left the middle.

Nino is a minor loss, solid player who I loved having here but not an impact player and he's a guy who can be replaced. The injury is a concern because Patches was a clear scoring upgrade on the wing in the top 6 that would help mitigate the JK question mark at center and could help take us over the edge compared to the last few years but it's not season altering or anything to me.

While true he was stapled to Staal on the 3rd line, he was still 3rd on the team in goal-scoring with 24. THAT's what will be hard to replace, you're not normally going to get goal-scoring like that from your 3rd line, that was more of a 2B line. KK can likely replace most of Tro, but now we have nothing really replacing Nino (unless we think Kase can stay healthy enough to do so)

 

[StorminSnvechnAho]

I’m thought Jarvis was a winger in the WHL before we drafted him? Every draft profile I’ve seen/read say he was a winger, even if they list him as C/W.

Didn’t he also play wing in his brief AHL stint?

He played mostly C in the AHL (not that he spent long there) Jarvis is a natural C even with smaller stature look were he grinds out goals it's mid ice. He's only 20 and he has played C 95% of the time he's played hockey.

While true he was stapled to Staal on the 3rd line, he was still 3rd on the team in goal-scoring with 24. THAT's what will be hard to replace, you're not normally going to get goal-scoring like that from your 3rd line, that was more of a 2B line. KK can likely replace most of Tro, but now we have nothing really replacing Nino (unless we think Kase can stay healthy enough to do so)

It will probably be a moot argument they are gonna make a move.

 

[MadeUpName]

Kotkaniemi had 25 points 5v5 in 700 minutes.
Trocheck had 31 points 5v5 in nearly 1000 minutes.

Trocheck added in 12 points on the PP and another 8 points in reduced man (4v4, 3v3) situations where Kotkaniemi rarely played.

Will Kotkaniemi need to step up? Yes, especially since the player I saw as the PP replacement (Pacioretty) is now hurt. But replacing Trocheck's point production from 21-22 is not the impossible task you describe.

Trocheck was also bad at the PP. He brought little except a right handed draw.

Trocheck was #2 in PP TOI with 233 minutes but his 12 points sandwich between Aho's 28 points and Teravainen's 31 points.

Of the 82 NHL forwards that had over 200 PP minutes Trocheck was #77 of #82 with 3.08 PPP/60. This is playing with rank #5 (Teravainen), #15 (Aho), and #43 (Svechnikov).

I have some hope that Kotkaniemi will play the net front a lot stronger than Trocheck. He showed some hands around the crease last year.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Time to sign Phil the Thrill.

 

[Chrispy]

I didn't describe it as impossible lol. I was saying it isn't as difficult as some think.

Yeah, realized I responded to the wrong person in that regard.

I agree another move is needed looking at the forward depth to start:

TT-Aho-Jarvis
Svech-Kotkaniemi-Necas
Fast-Staal-Kase
Martinook-Drury-Pederson

How did this team end up so RW heavy? I would say it makes a LW more likely, but I don't see a lot of LW options available (Stastny, Milano)