Confirmed with Link: P.K.Subban traded to NJ for Santini, Davies, two 2nds

[Bleedred]

Has there been any legit talk of Subban being a problem in Nashville. I mean it seams obvious that this move was because they were putrid up front this year (which cost them in the 2nd half and the playoffs) have approximately 1,000 defensemen and need space to sign a top center.

Maybe there's been something more recent that I don't recall, but I clearly remember early in 16-17 after the Subban for Weber trade. Nashville had this poor start to the season and Montreal had this really hot start (just like they did the year before with Subban and without Weber) and Nashville looked like they could miss the playoffs. There were bits and pieces coming out about Subban being a problem in their locker room too. And it just seemed like it was internet trolling and just plain made up BS.

Well, as we know what happened later that season, Nashville improved and made the SCF and I didn't hear another thing about PK being a problem in Nashville for at least the rest of that year.

I didn't really hear anything after that, but maybe something has come up since his name has been floated in trade rumors.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Weird how no one ever hated Iginla, DSP, Kevin Weekes, Seth Jones or Joel Ward and in fact all their locker rooms loved them to death

Yea but but but, it has to be racism, he just has to.

 

[glenwo2]

hahahahahaha

I'm still

Cangy I bet does appreciate the unintentional shout-out to the Red Bulls, though.

 

[MauDevils]

The only concerning part is that he's had chronic back issues. He's been kept out for it in 2012/2016/2019. There was talk about possible surgery in 2016 which he never went through with.

Scary to see the same injury continue to pop up over such a long time period.

 

[Revelation]

Yea but but but, it has to be racism, he just has to.

Totally, remember that time renowned white supremacist Dustin Byfuglien threw Evander Kane's track suit in the shower in an unbridled display of colonialism

 

[Emperoreddy]

The only concerning part is that he's had chronic back issues. He's been kept out for it in 2012/2016/2019. There was talk about possible surgery in 2016 which he never went through with.

Scary to see the same injury continue to pop up over such a long time period.

I think with only 3 years remaining it can’t hurt us.

 

[glenwo2]

Somebody here is going to have to use this as their new Avy.

 

[NinjaKick]

after the draft... and this trade... I think the Devils are now a contender for the playoffs... what a great start to the offseason..

 

[Edmonton East]

Ok, not gonna read this thread entirely. Some people need to calm down a bit. He isn't a Norris guy at this point and it is perfectly fair for some people to question his locker room personality considering he's been moved twice now (both of which entailed rumors about his locker room persona). We can call agree he is probably a great dude...that doesn't mean he's a great teammate. Who knows? None of us, that's for sure.

That said, to people legitimately concerned about the above: Who the hell cares?! It doesn't matter. His contract lines up perfectly to give this team flexibility if he doesn't work out. The only risk in what the Devs gave up is Davies becoming a middle pairing guy. Big whoop.

I've known about this potential deal for a bit (again, see post history). Made reading some of the mainboard expected returns absolutely hysterical.

The returns when it was announced were nuts. Lots of Hall 1 for 1. Severson and a 1st.

Yea, but to be fair to Nashville, I don't think this is a bad deal for them either. Based on how their team was constructed, the Subban signing was a mistake from day 1. Period. If the cap didn't exist, it would have been fine.

All Nash had to care about in this deal was not retaining any salary.

Going to be interesting to see what happens over the next year for the Devs because they still need SOME size on the back-end. And the org knows it.

 

[LoktionovMVP]

Well, apparently there is. My point is, there was no point in that, Nashville HAD to get rid of Subban, and there were few potential suitors for two reasons:

1) Only a few teams can absorb Subban's $9M per for 3 seasons
2) Some believe P.K. Subban is not P.K. Subban anymore

Point being, I highly doubt Nashville walks if you give them #55 instead of #34. Just an unnecessary addition of a more valuable asset. At #34 you're still in the "almost sure thing NHL players" in this draft, whereas in the #50'ish area there's more doubt. Which is precisely why you're seeing numerous trades down into the #30s right now.

“sure thing nhlers” in the second round lmao

literally look at any draft and youll find that that is not a thing

hell, its not a thing in the first round. See McLeod, Michael

 

[Missionhockey]

I was screaming in the city this afternoon shaking my girlfriend telling her how big of a deal this is! Earlier this week I was excited about getting Colin Miller! Boy has my perspective changed.

 

[LoktionovMVP]

anyway, Shero is a god and should have a statue erected outside the Rock

 

[Lou is God]

anyway, Shero is a god and should have a statue erected outside the Rock

Resign Hall, then statue.

 

[Bleedred]

Weird how no one ever hated Iginla, DSP, Kevin Weekes, Seth Jones or Joel Ward and in fact all their locker rooms loved them to death

Easily explainable. These aren't great comparisons though.

First of all, outside of Iginla and maybe Seth Jones, none of these guys were anything close to a superstar. And outside of Iginla, no one was really a mainstay on a big market Canadian team. Jones has played in Nashville and Columbus. So he won't catch as much scrutiny as Montreal Subban did.

DSP had a short stint in Montreal, but if you remember, they ran him out of town too. The same city where PK was shipped out of just months later. Which as we've seen his career unfold since then, they absolutely made the right choice on that one. DSP sucks and wasn't even in the NHL for the entire season last year. He spent some time in the AHL after being waived and also was ''Out of shape'' during training camp. Another player that won't catch the scrutiny PK did. Probably because he's beyond irrelevant.

Joel Ward didn't even make the NHL in a full time role until he was almost 28 years old. Joel Ward was never nearly the player PK Subban is. He spent most of his career as a 3rd line winger. Once again, he won't catch the scrutiny.

Kevin Weekes didn't even make it until his 34th birthday in the NHL, yet he played for almost as many NHL teams as Jaromir Jagr played for and in a much shorter career. Weekes was the ultimate journeyman goaltender, if there ever was one. The definition of it. And even in his case, he was never NEARLY on Subban's level. The guy was a backup for most of his career. And outside of 2 years with the Rangers at the tail end of his career backing up a rookie/sophomore Henrik Lundqvist, he only played on a big market team early on, with his 31 games over 2 seasons with Vancouver where he was basically a rookie still. He was a starter for basically 2 seasons in Carolina and one season in Tampa, when they were one of the most irrelevant teams in the NHL and had only made the playoffs once in their franchise history by that point.

So of course PK Subban is gonna get scrutinized more than these other guys. I'm not of the belief that this was race influenced either (not for the most part), but because Subban was a superstar player, on a big market team, for a storied franchise that hadn't won a cup in over 20 years. Iginla is the only player on this list that was a superstar and played for a big market team. And a big market team that never won the cup (with him there), at that.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Somebody here is going to have to use this as their new Avy.

FICKING DIBS

EDIT:

FICKING DONE

 

[Andre Palot]

All of us are gonna have this as the avatar aren't we lmao

 

[mtnet]

Killer deal that aligns with our cap trajectory the next few years and gives our pairings a shot in the arm

This trade made more sense for us than most, if not all teams that could afford it

Makes a lot of sense from a team marketing perspective and adds a nice draw to the team in our metro location

I don't really buy all the locker room bs, he's a fun personality with a big heart...Pro hockey already has more than its share of sticks in the mud

Even with no other moves I'd think Hall should be getting on board now

 

[glenwo2]

FICKING DIBS

EDIT:

FICKING DONE

YEAAAH!!!!

 

[Based Anime Fan]

All of us are gonna have this as the avatar aren't we lmao

We need to have them all at different angles

One person needs some snapchat/anime filter

Someone else needs the negative

 

[Andre Palot]

We need to have them all at different angles

One person needs some snapchat/anime filter

Someone else needs the negative

Ironically enough Instagram has a filter called Nashville so there you go.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Is everyone glad we didn't waste all those assets on a 4/5 D like Jonas Brodin or TJ Brodie?

Good job, Mr. Shero. Devils are a very interesting team for the 2020s.

 

[Emperoreddy]

He is going to great for the off ice stuff like the young hockey programs the team is invested in in Newark.

 

[mtnet]

He is going to great for the off ice stuff like the young hockey programs the team is invested in in Newark.

No doubt, that angle has been in the back of my mind as well and I'm so glad we got this done without creating further deficiencies in our current lineup heading into next year

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Gonna be a fun year for NJD & NYR

Congrats! Broke the deal to my cousin whose a devils fan and he was ecstatic!

 

[jkrdevil]

Yea, but to be fair to Nashville, I don't think this is a bad deal for them either. Based on how their team was constructed, the Subban signing was a mistake from day 1. Period. If the cap didn't exist, it would have been fine.

All Nash had to care about in this deal was not retaining any salary.

Going to be interesting to see what happens over the next year for the Devs because they still need SOME size on the back-end. And the org knows it.

They weren’t the team to sign Subban, given that the shed the Weber contract to get him it is pretty savvy by Nashville. They got rid of Weber’s massive contract to get 3 good years out Subban and now have the cap flexibility to add up front.