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Confirmed with Link: P.K.Subban traded to NJ for Santini, Davies, two 2nds

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BenedictGomez said:
Well, apparently there is. My point is, there was no point in that, Nashville HAD to get rid of Subban, and there were few potential suitors for two reasons:

1) Only a few teams can absorb Subban's $9M per for 3 seasons
2) Some believe P.K. Subban is not P.K. Subban anymore

Point being, I highly doubt Nashville walks if you give them #55 instead of #34. Just an unnecessary addition of a more valuable asset. At #34 you're still in the "almost sure thing NHL players" in this draft, whereas in the #50'ish area there's more doubt. Which is precisely why you're seeing numerous trades down into the #30s right now.
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34 is not a sure thing NHLer, every draft pick analysis ever done refutes that.
 
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The only question should be about his back. Sounds like he was back up to speed by the end of the season? Anyone know what his actual injury was?
 
BenedictGomez said:
Well, apparently there is. My point is, there was no point in that, Nashville HAD to get rid of Subban, and there were few potential suitors for two reasons:

1) Only a few teams can absorb Subban's $9M per for 3 seasons
2) Some believe P.K. Subban is not P.K. Subban anymore

Point being, I highly doubt Nashville walks if you give them #55 instead of #34. Just an unnecessary addition of a more valuable asset. At #34 you're still in the "almost sure thing NHL players" in this draft, whereas in the #50'ish area there's more doubt. Which is precisely why you're seeing numerous trades down into the #30s right now.
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how do you know ANY Of that? Its all just assumptions.

Its ok to be happy.
 
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At a certain point you have to begin improving the team now instead of continuously loading up on prospects. This will be a huge boost to our team but I am predicting right now that we are not done yet. Our current pairings now look something like this

Andy Greene- PK Subban
Will Butcher- Damon Severson
Mirco Mueller- Sami Vatanen
With Ty Smith needing a spot

If we end up trading Vatanen for a forward, it could look like this

Andy Greene- PK Subban
Mirco Mueller- Damon Severson
Ty Smith- Will Butcher

I am curious to see what other moves we have coming.
 
Wish the trade was announced at the draft on pick #34. Would have been fun but I guess Nashville wanted to ‘weaponize’ that pick which was why it went down earlier.
 
Oh the narrative that we shouldn't have given up #34 because a bunch of teams are trading into the 30s for guys is ridiculous as well because those trades only work when a team with a pick in that range think they can move down and still grab the guy they want, which defeats the entire point of the narrative being pushed.
 
Kind of really excited, kind of really bummed out.

50/50.

Full salary, (2) 2nd round picks and 2 prospects. That is a lot.

I think Ray should have overpaid for Trouba (23 years old) rather than Subban at 30.

On a positive note Subban is a real competitor and does not slack off too much. He should help the PP out. We now have some real talent.

Subban might also bring in some of the Newark locals as new NHL fans.
 
BenedictGomez said:
Well, apparently there is. My point is, there was no point in that, Nashville HAD to get rid of Subban, and there were few potential suitors for two reasons:

1) Only a few teams can absorb Subban's $9M per for 3 seasons
2) Some believe P.K. Subban is not P.K. Subban anymore

Point being, I highly doubt Nashville walks if you give them #55 instead of #34. Just an unnecessary addition of a more valuable asset. At #34 you're still in the "almost sure thing NHL players" in this draft, whereas in the #50'ish area there's more doubt. Which is precisely why you're seeing numerous trades down into the #30s right now.
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How much were you expecting to rob them? We had to give up something of value, either a better player or a better pick. Basically every neutral observer thinks this price was more than fair considering we took on the whole contract. And if you think there was a big difference between #34 and #55, well so did they obviously so it's not fair to say they wouldn't have walked and/or asked for something else back.
 
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This deal was a steal IMO, but PK is not a great PP player. Preds had league worst PP last year, and PK has struggled to get his shot through for years.

Still, great player and deal
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They struggled because their whole strategy on the powerplay was to funnel puck to the point and let their d-man rip it.

Teams adapted, and started to shut them down. Preds have a serious depth and even firepower problem up front.
 
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Thrilled. This is a total steal and a move that shows Shero thinks this team is ready to win now. Fine with taking on the full salary too. We have the cap room, use it. No reason for Nashville to retain and require more assets from us.
 
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Once again Shero kills on a trade.

Instead of rushing and making a move because he can, he waits until a trade comes along in which he makes out like a bandit.

Did I think there were some good players available at #34? Sure, but we got PK Subban and we didn't give up a #1, or Zacha, or Wood, or Bratt.

Fantastic deal.
 
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BenedictGomez said:
Well, apparently there is. My point is, there was no point in that, Nashville HAD to get rid of Subban, and there were few potential suitors for two reasons:

1) Only a few teams can absorb Subban's $9M per for 3 seasons
2) Some believe P.K. Subban is not P.K. Subban anymore

Point being, I highly doubt Nashville walks if you give them #55 instead of #34. Just an unnecessary addition of a more valuable asset. At #34 you're still in the "almost sure thing NHL players" in this draft, whereas in the #50'ish area there's more doubt. Which is precisely why you're seeing numerous trades down into the #30s right now.
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Ray is attempting to push the team into competition stage when it comes to the playoffs. He's been here 5 years, had a lot of cap space, and is now using it to his advantage. Shero believes it's time. I love the bold move
 
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Preds fan here. Poile helping out his old buddy Shero it looks like. It looks terrible on paper for the Preds here but it's a free agency move on our part and fortunately for you guys, you're the beneficiary. In a perfect world we're basically viewing this as PK for picks, prospects and Duchene.

Congrats on the move. PK is awesome. I'll wish him all the best.
 
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BenedictGomez said:
Well, apparently there is. My point is, there was no point in that, Nashville HAD to get rid of Subban, and there were few potential suitors for two reasons:

1) Only a few teams can absorb Subban's $9M per for 3 seasons
2) Some believe P.K. Subban is not P.K. Subban anymore

Point being, I highly doubt Nashville walks if you give them #55 instead of #34. Just an unnecessary addition of a more valuable asset. At #34 you're still in the "almost sure thing NHL players" in this draft, whereas in the #50'ish area there's more doubt. Which is precisely why you're seeing numerous trades down into the #30s right now.
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Reasonable concerns.

But at some point, you have to give to get and Devils desperately need a top defender. If you keep wishing for the perfect dealt to fall out of the sky, you'll likely be waiting forever.

Devils gave up #34 which is rough, but the Devils have a lot of good young pieces at the moment. Hughes - Hischier - Zacha down the middle. Hall (who you're trying to convince to stay), Palmieri, Bratt, Coleman, Wood, and a few promising prospects to supplement them on the wings. You have some nice pieces defensively, but none that can give you what PK will in the next couple years.

I'd love to keep accumulating talent, but this was a risk that needed to be taken to fill a positional need we have no other way of addressing at the moment.
 
Saint Beaurivage said:
Kind of really excited, kind of really bummed out.

50/50.

Full salary, (2) 2nd round picks and 2 prospects. That is a lot.

I think Ray should have overpaid for Trouba (23 years old) rather than Subban at 30.

On a positive note Subban is a real competitor and does not slack off too much. He should help the PP out. We now have some real talent.

Subban might also bring in some of the Newark locals as new NHL fans.
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Are you counting Santini as a prospect? He is the personification of a throw in in regards to this deal.

And Trouba is 25, still younger, but not 23.
 
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