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Cole Caulifield
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My gut feeling is that he talked to Gionta, Gorges to get a feel of how PK is in the dressing room and now he doesn't want to commit long term to him. I also agree that it's a mistake.
I thought he got the worst of all worlds in the Price deal. I don't think Price had proven he deserved to be 0.5M away from best paid goalie in the league. Especially on a long term deal. If you sign a long term deal the team should get some sort of discount. The team provides security, the players concedes a little. If we truly believe Price is elite and will only be more consistent with age, then should have added 1-2 years to that deal and gotten a discount like most long term deals.
Prust was a guy that will be useful to the habs but 2.5M for 4 years ? Ridiculous. Dime a dozen really. No need to overpay for guys like that IMO. I didn't mind because the cap kept going up and was already at 70M but with the cap going down, I feel this is the kind of move that add up to problems in the long run.
Bouillon is on the downswing of his career and we already had Diaz, Weber, Emelin... all of whom I would have wanted to give another chance to but I can't see how we will have room for them with Subban signed. At least try to up their value before a trade. I can only assume they signed Bouillon to give him a spot in the top 6 and not have him be the 7th guy. I don't think that's smart.
I was worried when Bergevin snapped at a journalist during the press conference about him not being aware of the possibility of trading cap space in the next CBA. This is worrying to me that the GM of the habs isn't aware of the things going on behind the scene.
And now this silliness with Subban.
But I love the Pacioretty extension. That's a great deal for us, we signed him on the cheap IMO. Was quite the steal.
I also loved the J.J. Daigneault hire.
Not the biggest fan of Therrien but truth be told he was probably the best candidate. Bergevin had no options here.
I will withhold judgement for now but so far I'm with you. Not terribly impressed.
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I guess it depends on who you ask.. Not that fans opinions mean much in such things but I've seen many Oiler fans say they wouldn't trade any of their "big" four for Subban. However me being a Habs fan I wouldn't settle for anything but one of the "big" 4 Oiler fans wouldn't part with.
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Oiler fans are in love with them - and rightfully so. But I have a feeling for a guy like Subban, they consider. We could also toss in Weber (whom Kreuger has coached previously).
Weber + Subban for Eberle. I wonder if Edmonton would bite.
Subban is an RFA. He's bound to the Habs until he becomes eligible for free agency. Maybe he doesn't want to sign for 8 years and miss out on the expected bonanza when he's eligible to become an UFA in a couple of years. Bergevin isn't blind to Subban's (and Meehan's) intentions. No one has tended an offer sheet but I wouldn't be surprised if some GMs have privately proposed trades to Bergevin.
Cole Caulifield
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Eberle
Galchenyuk
Plekanec
Desharnais
Eller
Trading a stud young dmen for a center is a bad move for the habs. We don't need more centers, we actually need to trade centers.
Are offer sheets public? In the past, I only remember them being publicized
when a player accepts one.
If so, he may have received offers that we haven't heard of.
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Can't trade a guy who has not signed a contract yet. And there's no chance we could get Eberle if we did.
If the Habs trade Subban for Eberle, they could continue and trade Plekanec for a dmen like Yandle.
Eberle plays wing in Edmonton.
If Subban doesn't sign soon, I wouldn't mind trading him. If both sides aren't going to budge why not put him to use(in fetching us assets)
Cole Caulifield
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Pretty sure that's false and that we can trade the rights to Subban. Unless it's a new thing in the CBA. In which case nevermind me.
Cole Caulifield
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Sure, but that seems like a huge hassle. And would Phoenix even want to deal Yandle for Plekanec... This seems like a bird in hand, two in bush situation.
I stand corrected.
Also, for the record, I don't mind if Subban is traded for equal or better value. This would be more sensible than this holding out crap.
It's too early to judge definitely but It's too early to judge definitely but I've not been terribly impressed with Bergevin so far.
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I've not been terribly impressed by Subban so far. Subban is proving right now that he plays for the money and not the team. If Subban asked for a reasonnable contract ( less than 5 millions per year) everything would be over ans Subban will have been playing tonight.
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I've not been terribly impressed by Subban so far. Subban is proving right now that he plays for the money and not the team. If Subban asked for a reasonnable contract ( less than 5 millions per year) everything would be over ans Subban will have been playing tonight.
Cole Caulifield
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Well you have no clue what the amounts are that both sides would want. The only thing we know is that Subban wants a long term deal while Bergevin wants a bridge contract. It's the only thing we know.
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Cole Caulifield
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what a bummer, looks like my favorite player ain't playing tonight
We want PK!
We want PK!
We want PK!
I almost guarantee we're going to hear this chant tonight.
This controversy will be Bergevin's doing.
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Cole Caulifield
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Oh so you're saying PK as nothing to do with it?
The habs should be jumping at the chance to ink Subban long term. In a way he's actually doing the right thing for the team by defying his dumb GM
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Cole Caulifield
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My version is:
We want PK! But not any cost!
We want PK! But not any cost!
You won't hear that tonight.
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