FinnHab
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You won't hear that tonight.
Let`s wait and see, i will watch and listen live stream very very carefully on my secret Hab-headquarter in Finland
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You won't hear that tonight.
I wouldn't trade Subban straight up for Eberle let alone add something else.
We want PK!
We want PK!
We want PK!
I almost guarantee we're going to hear this chant tonight.
This controversy will be Bergevin's doing.
False premise on your part.
We have no idea what the numbers are. We know that Bergevin wants a short deal and PK wants a long term deal. That is ALL we know.
I don't disagree that Bergevin has blame in this situation but if PK is asking for 7 million a season should MB really sign him to that?
No one will care if the Habs score early and/or win.We want PK!
We want PK!
We want PK!
I almost guarantee we're going to hear this chant tonight.
This controversy will be Bergevin's doing.
Would have kinda of whished someone offer sheet Subban so the habs would have matched. Can't believe they couldn't come to an agreement after this bs lockout. Another **** you to the fans.
I don't disagree that Bergevin has blame in this situation but if PK is asking for 7 million a season should MB really sign him to that?
because the fan boys want hiiiiimmmmmm!
The rumour going around has been $6M.No, definitely not, I strongly doubt PK/Meehan are asking for that much though.
Final answer, not even going to Phone-A-Friend on that one?
There would be no chance of landing a special player like Eberle for Subban. You're attached to Subban a little too much to talk trade about him.
The rumour going around has been $6M.
No one will care if the Habs score early and/or win.
When did Eberle become a "special" player? He's a good young player but I think Subban has a chance to be a top 5(in the NHL) d-man. Eberle will be a good player but I doubt he is ever considered one of the 5 best forwards in the NHL.
Short of getting a Stamkos Toews Crosby Malkin Kopitar Tavares Giroux you don't trade Subban.
No, definitely not, I strongly doubt PK/Meehan are asking for that much though.
When did Eberle become a "special" player? He's a good young player but I think Subban has a chance to be a top 5(in the NHL) d-man. Eberle will be a good player but I doubt he is ever considered one of the 5 best forwards in the NHL.
Short of getting a Stamkos Toews Crosby Malkin Kopitar Tavares Giroux you don't trade Subban.
You are way off on Subban's value. Subban will never be in that group of players.
1 - Nobody in this entire thread DOESN'T think that PK Subban is a true impact player with more to come. We ALL think that. That doesn't mean he deserves what (allegedly) he is asking for, which is close to Doughty type money and length.
Disagree...2 - Bergy is holding firm on a figure that is (again allegedly) VERY reasonable. It's not like he's offering peanuts, he just doesn't want to give a player, ANY player an inflated contract cuz they have leverage. There's a poster on HIO who claims to have some inside info (it's in the comments in the article about Price's mask) where (if you believe him, and I kind of do) that Bergevin respects the Habs, the history and the greatness too much to bow to a single player who is trying to ask for more than what he deserves. I totally respect that attitude. YES - it could hurt the team now, BUT, it will hurt the team much more in the grand scheme if he gives PK a 6.5 for 6 years deal.
Stranger things have happened, wouldn't be the first time habs ownership meddled, and molson showed last year that he's very much "engaged" in the team...13 - I assume you realize this scenario is absurd.
That, or MB is trying to lowball...1I do agree that if PK agreed to 5 or even 5.5 for 6 years, that's a deal you should make, although I don't know whether Meehan is willing to go for that. He seems to be trying to replicate the Doughty situation and in a market where the fan pressure is added leverage.
1Scenario 4:
PK doesn't play (you think he'll enjoy that?) until he agrees to a 2 year deal in which he is forced to work his butt off and show that he is what he thinks he's worth, and then gets the big bucks. Why this is such a problem for PK, I don't understand. He loves hockey, he supposedly loves the Habs and Montreal. What...is...the problem? Probably Meehan. This situation sucks hard and I don't like it more than you that things are the way they are, but IMO as much as Bergy can be criticized for limiting the offer to two years, PK can be criticized for not taking it. These threads have made him out to be the best D in the NHL, which he is not. He IS, however critical to our team so I hope this lockout-esque drama is over soon. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to drag on into the season, thus ruining this one for us, but possibly saving future seasons. Hope I'm wrong and they meet half way.
You are way off on Subban's value. Subban will never be in that group of players.
And Eberle will?
That's not way off base if we are talking a 6-7-8 year deal when you look at Hall, Eberle, Zajac etc
6 year 33 mil or 7 year 37.5 would be a good deal IMHO.
Let's try to follow the conversation ok? Subban does not get you Eberle in a trade, end of story.
Subban gets into a 2nd contract squawk with his GM and suddenly he's Orr.
There's a lot more to being a DEFENSEman than scoring points..