Owen Sound Attack 2022 Off-season Thread
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As much fun as that would be, that notion was all but killed on draft day. Apparently the lightning have ties to the NCAA team he is committed to with another prospect on that roster. The coaching staff is considered to be one of the best development systems outside of the NHL.
The kid is a massive personality and maybe it won't be a fit with the NCAA team with him being a younger player on what will likely be an older, more mature roster. Maybe Owen Sound becomes an option in season if he elects to leave. Otherwise I don't see him in an Owen Sound sweater. Too bad.
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I think that line tears up the OHL this season. The way all three of them were playing at the end of the season gives hope that they explode this year. Certainly will be deadly in 2 years time but I think they are just getting started.
Trading in season is interesting as the team looks pretty set with OAs going into next season with all of Goure, Burroughs, Lawrence and Sedley likely available. Acquiring a 19 year old player only adds to the potential glut of OA players or you accept that you are likely paying to suit them up for one season only. In my opinion, to fit with the two year window, you either look for 18 year olds or add an OA to this year's roster. Would likely be a high cost to acquire an 18 year old impact player but if you are going to pay big it helps to have them for two seasons as opposed to one.
AttackSound
Junior Hockey Fan Since Birth
Well, that time frame could be way sooner then 2 years, IF things fall in to place correctly.
A lot of it we depend on a multitude of factors but if played right this team could look like a contender in very short order.
With the way development has been for teams last season a tweak here or there could be the difference between shaking hands in a line and lifting the J. Ross Robertson Cup.
This doesn't guarantee anything but for sure simply because it's junior hockey and anything can happen, but I believe that this group isn't too far off in the very near days.
What are those?
I think Greg Cowan tweeted out that the Attack had the second highest scoring 2020 draft, Sudbury was 1, but Sudbury didn't have an 04 goalie on the roster like the Attack do, either way the best 2 04s it seems. Get Howard or Muldowney, that just ramps it all up
oh, its a math equation, now i see it. Picks are important but only when you use them correctly. We have seen both sides of it, the last 3/4 years it seems like more on the positive vs negative.
AttackSound
Junior Hockey Fan Since Birth
Another player that can be filed under "If We Only Could" or "If We Can".
Not saying that it impossible to happen, but very unlikely for both Muldowney and Howard, it really will be up to the NHL clubs to advise their picks on the best course of action.
If we were to have 1 of them in the lineup bonus of we could convince both to report that would be outstanding. It's really in the NHL clubs who drafted them and what they think could be a benefit to their development.
But we can a still hope and wish they report to camp at the end of August and stay around.
I would say that teams expect their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to play for them. Taking a "high risk" pick in the 5th and 6th round of the draft seems like an acceptable level of risk in my opinion. Doesn't negatively impact the group you expect to play but adds value if they elect to come to the OHL. Can't win the lottery if you never buy a ticket.
AttackSound
Junior Hockey Fan Since Birth
Depends on what you have for picks. You can't to a chance if you don't have the pick to chance.
Wouldn't you agree??
If you have 18 picks, theres very little risk. Howard was the 7th player they took, I would guess that most times the 7th player you take in a draft doesn't make the team regardless.
The 2020 Draft has seen 8 players make to the roster, and at the BBQ it sounded like they hope Luke Bibby makes it this year to make it 9. If they can do that AND draft someone like Howard, go for it.
100%. The Attack organization has done a great job drafting high skill players and getting them to come to Owen Sound with their early round picks in recent years. They've got some additional picks from the big sell off a few years ago so they should be looking to be aggressive on the talent available in the 5th/6th rounds. Howard and Muldowney may never come to Owen Sound but I appreciate the team making the effort rather than just never trying. 5th/6th round pick seems to be the appropriate time to take those risks in my opinion.
You never win the lottery if you don't by a ticket. You may not think its viable to win, but you can't complain about not winning when you make no effort. Say what you will about London and Kitchener, but they try to draft American kids, no reason for the Attack not to do the same, smartly and at the right times.
Pretty quiet here so I'll start a little discussion on another thread discussing available players for this year there are a lot of interesting names. 2 names really jumped out at me as I feel if we want to make a bit of a run this season we could need an older d man to replace Wooley and Chibber. Gerard Keane or Bryce Montgomery of the Knights could fit the bill. We have a history dealing with London and IMHO have done extremely well in those deals. I wouldn't sell the farm by any means but if a deal could be worked out thats reasonable this fan wouldn't mind either one of those 2. Lets hear everyones thoughts good or bad LOL.
sbpointer
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Its an interesting thought for sure. Historically those deals OS has done well on are kind of the reverse of this situation where London trades a under utilized up and coming piece for a today piece. That said I think Montgomery in particular can add value and would probably come at a good deal being an OA that isn't likely to fit in London's plan this year particularly if Brochu is back..
I think that London sees Keane as a key piece/leader this upcoming season so he wouldn't likely move unless a sell situation arises which isn't out of the question this year.
I agree with Keane, but I would bet that he is viewed as a big piece for them. I think Montgomery is over hyped to be honest, he's 20 and not a regular on an OHL team. I assume someone will give London way more then what he's worth, kind of like Kingston and Roger.
AttackSound
Junior Hockey Fan Since Birth
Well teams aside.
Regardless of who could be moved it really will depend on what teams are needing/wanting to improve upon.
Would that involve a player(s) from the Knights well maybe? Maybe not? As most GM's see the season in X number of games and evaluate and tweak if necessary. To say player A should be moved for player or asset B is really hard to gage without seeing what is teams have.
Even from an OS position we all here have opinions on what we want/hope to see the team look like and we can all play armchair GM's myself included. But we aren't DD we aren't GW and we aren't necessarily seeing what the team sees in these kids.
I have to say let's see what happens 10-15 games in to the season to see whether or not DD sees an opportunity or option to improve the team or a player(s) opportunities.
We could get to that 10 game mark and all say why would we make a deal just to make a deal?
If the team is competitive and in the mix right out of the gate then why mess around with the mojo in the room. Unless there's a player that is unhappy with his situation here I believe the best thing is to just wait and see where the cards fall in that stretch of games first and then will see if tweaks need to be made.
If your saying fans shouldn't specular on aspects of the team because they are not a GM or coach, we should shut down all social media and message boards.....
AttackSound
Junior Hockey Fan Since Birth
No that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying we aren't in the GM's head and even though we speculate on how we see the team looks on paper and what we want to see as fans may not mirror what the management and coaching staff sees.
We can speculate all we want but the team is going to do what the team thinks is best for its own success and the players involved. We can't change that.
Accept it... the message board isn't a bad thing but even you can agree that each season takes on its own identity and that we the fans may think we have an idea on what is going on we are really just speculating until the season starts and we see how it all shakes out its all best guess right now.
Ok, so I'm confused on the purpose of the post then.
I don't think anyone thinks they are the GM or that the suggestions that they are offering are a look to the future, but a poster simply wanted to start an open discussion, what's the point in telling people what they already know, that its all just simple speculation. Of course its simple speculation, that's what a message board is,
I'm still not sure what your saying outside of speculation has no baring on what the management will do, we know that, you don't have to say that, but it doesn't mean we can't have a bit of fun and share ideas.
I promise, its ok to let people on here have a dialog in July about off season acquisitions, speculation or not. No one is thinking they have all the answers, they just want a fun discussion.
I thought Roger was quite good for Kingston and worth the 2nd & 3rd picks given up. I think that there is a good chance Roger plays an OA season and is one of if not the top OA RD making the conditional 3rd a bargain.
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