Owen Sound Attack 2022-23 Season Thread

[KFawcett]

What do you guys project to be next seasons line ups to be?

That is a very hard thing to predict. We have 5 '03's and depending if we add another 03 any of which would be good choices for OA's. I believe we will be moving at least 1 d out. In goal we have George and Votary and I believe George will definately put the pressure on Votary. On d I think in no order Steen, Jordan, Rogers,Petrovski, Uens and Up front Barlow,Guindon,Petrovsky,Brennan,Chafe Cormier and Tersigni. I'm leaving out any OA's as there are so many variables with who returns and who doesn't and then who the Attack choose.Add to that an import our 1st pick if Letournau comes back. Jared Langdon has commited to Clarkson but my experience commitments don't mean a whole lot sometimes and that goes both ways from the player and from the school.I totally forgot Boniauto but that could be a wildcard.

 

[Nice2CU]

That is a very hard thing to predict. We have 5 '03's and depending if we add another 03 any of which would be good choices for OA's. I believe we will be moving at least 1 d out. In goal we have George and Votary and I believe George will definately put the pressure on Votary. On d I think in no order Steen, Jordan, Rogers,Petrovski, Uens and Up front Barlow,Guindon,Petrovsky,Brennan,Chafe Cormier and Tersigni. I'm leaving out any OA's as there are so many variables with who returns and who doesn't and then who the Attack choose.Add to that an import our 1st pick if Letournau comes back. Jared Langdon has commited to Clarkson but my experience commitments don't mean a whole lot sometimes and that goes both ways from the player and from the school.I totally forgot Boniauto but that could be a wildcard.

I would bet in favour of Langdon sticking with his Clarkson commitment.
2.5 hours door to door from home and his family probably values the education more than other families.

Just my guess.

 

[AttackBeacher]

If I didn't know my own handle here I would think I'm you because many of your posts are exactly what I'm thinking lol. As far as goaltending the great Constantini has been pulled a few times and the equally great Brochu has looked human at times. The offensive talent in this league is second to none and we are blessed to have our fair share. At the start of the season Wally said that 30 w's wasn't enough he wanted 40 some people chuckled as they thought with the parity that that was a lofty goal. I like it and at the pace we are on would easy surpass that. Will we? It's hard to say we likely will have a losing streak so maybe not. Personally I chuckle at people when they point out mistakes. I have always maintained hockey is a game of mistakes and the team that wins makes the fewest and capitalizes on the other teams.

Its funny, I started posting here maybe 3/4 years ago? At the time I felt that the drafting was starting to turn and show a bit more quality vs the previous years and that the group of Lawrence, Goure, Burroughs may be the start of a nice little core. I got PMd 3/4 times by a very aggressive Attack fan calling me a homer and suggesting that I work for the team.

Im happy to call the team out (mostly management) on bad decisions, but its also fair to call them out on good things, and we are pretty lucky we have a nice team here that could make some noise this year and next.

 

[AttackBeacher]

That is a very hard thing to predict. We have 5 '03's and depending if we add another 03 any of which would be good choices for OA's. I believe we will be moving at least 1 d out. In goal we have George and Votary and I believe George will definately put the pressure on Votary. On d I think in no order Steen, Jordan, Rogers,Petrovski, Uens and Up front Barlow,Guindon,Petrovsky,Brennan,Chafe Cormier and Tersigni. I'm leaving out any OA's as there are so many variables with who returns and who doesn't and then who the Attack choose.Add to that an import our 1st pick if Letournau comes back. Jared Langdon has commited to Clarkson but my experience commitments don't mean a whole lot sometimes and that goes both ways from the player and from the school.I totally forgot Boniauto but that could be a wildcard.

I would think something along the following

Petrovski - Goure - Barlow
Guindon - Lawrence - Brennan
Chafe - Bryant - Fantino
Terisigni - Cormier - ?

Sedley - Steen
Petrovsky - Uens
jordan - Rogers

Votary
George

You will trade 2 03s hopefully, right now probably Burroughs and Sawyer, and you will add an import, probably a forward? Add in 07 D and F probably.

Thats going to be a deep exciting group. If Petrovski can be the guy we say in the playoffs last year and improved, our D will be very solid.

 

[OSA]

I would bet in favour of Langdon sticking with his Clarkson commitment.
2.5 hours door to door from home and his family probably values the education more than other families.

Just my guess.

This “valuing education” trope; that somehow a hockey player can only achieve the best education by going to the NCAA is utter nonsense.

Did you know a relatively recent Attack grad just completed medical school and is now pursuing his surgical residency? I mean, it sucks, I know, because if he actually came from a family that valued education and went the NCAA route, he’d probably be Norman Bethune by now.

If you “value education” here’s an idea….play 4 years in the OHL then get 4 years of University schooling paid for at Queens, or Waterloo, or U of T, or McGill…..all of which are better post secondary institutions than Clarkson.

 

[AttackBeacher]

I would bet in favour of Langdon sticking with his Clarkson commitment.
2.5 hours door to door from home and his family probably values the education more than other families.

Just my guess.

I would think that there are a few variables.

1. Didn't his older brother also commit to Clarkson only to walk away from it and play in Kitchener?
2. He has alot of former teammates from the Quinte area on the team, Uens, Votary, Rogers all in the area and I would think they all know each other in some way.
3. Education is important, then good thing the Attack have more education awards then any team in the league. Previously mentioned Cal Uens already graduated High School a year early with honours.

I won't pretend to know the motives of the family but Jared did come to camp and looked outstanding, he probably could play with one of the best teams in Ontario next year and then be a go to guy in his draft year while playing with an organization that has lots of proof that education is a priority.

We shall see, Jared seemed like a hell of a player, he probably will find the best route for him. I think it would be the OHL personally, but im biased as well

 

[KFawcett]

I would bet in favour of Langdon sticking with his Clarkson commitment.
2.5 hours door to door from home and his family probably values the education more than other families.

Just my guess.

I can't disagree but from experience his commitment is for 25-26 a little bit away. I had a good friend whose son commited and close to the time someone the school thought was better came along so my buddies son was dropped. I know players have walked. Mike Futa sold our very own Bobby Ryan to walk away and more recently Kaleb Pearson gave up an opportunity. I'm not saying he would even consider giving up his commitment but never say never.

 

[AttackBeacher]

I can't disagree but from experience his commitment is for 25-26 a little bit away. I had a good friend whose son commited and close to the time someone the school thought was better came along so my buddies son was dropped. I know players have walked. Mike Futa sold our very own Bobby Ryan to walk away and more recently Kaleb Pearson gave up an opportunity. I'm not saying he would even consider giving up his commitment but never say never.

Even still, as much as I think Langdon would be a top player for us in a few years, Letearneau may be as well.

I remember reading Dale was trying to sign both Langdon and Letearneau, or at least offered contacts. I would think the vaccine issue for Landgon would get in the way, maybe a bit more time with Letearneau. Good thing is he has yet to commit anywhere.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Even still, as much as I think Langdon would be a top player for us in a few years, Letearneau may be as well.

I remember reading Dale was trying to sign both Langdon and Letearneau, or at least offered contacts. I would think the vaccine issue for Landgon would get in the way, maybe a bit more time with Letearneau. Good thing is he has yet to commit anywhere.

His 2 goals and 6 points in 22 OJHL games isn't exactly lighting the league on fire.

I'd assume his family isn't too fond of the OHL after they kicked the older brother out of the league because the family is anti-vaxxers

 

[AttackBeacher]

His 2 goals and 6 points in 22 OJHL games isn't exactly lighting the league on fire.

I'd assume his family isn't too fond of the OHL after they kicked the older brother out of the league because the family is anti-vaxxers

Watch him at camp, he was outstanding.

Jr A numbers don't always tell the story. Look at Tomislav Brennan, he had similar numbers in the CCHL and is now just under a point a game in the OHL at 17. Langdon looked better in camp then him.

Kyle Morey had great numbers in Jr B and has 2 points in 17 games in Kitchener. I think you would agree, thats why they scout more then the boxscore.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Watch him at camp, he was outstanding.

Jr A numbers don't always tell the story. Look at Tomislav Brennan, he had similar numbers in the CCHL and is now just under a point a game in the OHL at 17. Langdon looked better in camp then him.

Kyle Morey had great numbers in Jr B and has 2 points in 17 games in Kitchener. I think you would agree, thats why they scout more then the boxscore.

I'm not saying he couldn't be an OHL player. I'm responding to your "Langdon would be a top player for us in a few years" comment. I think that would be a pretty large stretch. Your example of Brennan doesn't really fit because tho he is off to a good start, he's definitely not one of Owen Sound's top players, which is what I was responding to you saying.

But again, I'm sure we'll never find out as I'm sure its a safe bet that his family hates the OHL

 

[AttackBeacher]

I'm not saying he couldn't be an OHL player. I'm responding to your "Langdon would be a top player for us in a few years" comment. I think that would be a pretty large stretch. Your example of Brennan doesn't really fit because tho he is off to a good start, he's definitely not one of Owen Sound's top players, which is what I was responding to you saying.

But again, I'm sure we'll never find out as I'm sure its a safe bet that his family hates the OHL

Well, if his family hates the OHL, why on earth would they come to Owen Sound to compete for a job for 5 days at their own expense and inconvienience. I would think, logically, if he did not want to go, he would have never showed up in the first place.

If you do not believe that Langdon could be a top player on the team and a very good player in the league, thats fine, we all have opinions and judgements. Id be surprsied if you had enough knowledge of the player given he basically didn't play last year, but the great thing about hockey is we get to find out in a few years. He's a late birth 06 who outplayed Brennan as an 05, and Brennan has 9 points in 13 games this year. Brennan does not need to be a top player, but he probably will be next year, just like the Generals have players who are rookies and will grow into roles. Im not saying Landgon will be a top player right now, Im saying in 2 years he could be.

Even if he has a similar impact at 17, that projects as a core piece down the road.

I mean, if he was as average as suggested, why woud Clarkson even entertain him given the brother broke the committment and went to the OHL?

 

[Millpond]

I would think something along the following

Petrovski - Goure - Barlow
Guindon - Lawrence - Brennan
Chafe - Bryant - Fantino
Terisigni - Cormier - ?

Sedley - Steen
Petrovsky - Uens
jordan - Rogers

Votary
George

You will trade 2 03s hopefully, right now probably Burroughs and Sawyer, and you will add an import, probably a forward? Add in 07 D and F probably.

Thats going to be a deep exciting group. If Petrovski can be the guy we say in the playoffs last year and improved, our D will be very solid.

I'm not so sure Burroughs goes anywhere next year.

He had 30 goals last season, he's durable and a team leader.

An overage needs to produce, and he will.

I wonder if LeTourneau comes in next year ?
He is big, like Kaleb Lawrence and (in two days if training camp) he seems to have nice hands .

 

[AttackBeacher]

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I'm not so sure Burroughs goes anywhere next year.

He had 30 goals last season, he's durable and a team leader.

An overage needs to produce, and he will.

I wonder if LeTourneau comes in next year ?
He is big, like Kaleb Lawrence and (in two days if training camp) he seems to have nice hands .

However it works out, I think they go with 2 OA forwards and 1 OA D. Goure is untouchable at this point, and Sedley is very important, so in theory it comes down to Lawrence vs Burroughs.

 

[Stellar29]

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However it works out, I think they go with 2 OA forwards and 1 OA D. Goure is untouchable at this point, and Sedley is very important, so in theory it comes down to Lawrence vs Burroughs.

While I agree with you 100%, I could also see a scenario where the team goes with 1 F OA and 2 D OAs. The team's strength is certainly with the forward group. If they could land a forward with their import pick that can lessen the blow of losing Burroughs and Lawrence, then the possibility of keeping both Sedley and Sawyer can become a possibility. If a Langdon or Letourneau can have an impact the way Brennan has this season at 17 and Cormier/Tersigni start to contribute with some regularity you would have the forward depth to go with the 2 OA Dmen. D is still likely the weakest part of the team going into next season though I do like the pieces on the roster.

It's still most likely they go with the 2 forward and 1 dman scenario but maybe not as clear cut as we expect.

 

[Stellar29]

Greg Cowan interview with Dale DeGray. Looks to be a typical trade deadline where the team stays out of the big fish market.

 

[HLLYWD99]

Greg Cowan interview with Dale DeGray. Looks to be a typical trade deadline where the team stays out of the big fish market.

Same old same old

 

[StingUpdates]

Greg Cowan interview with Dale DeGray. Looks to be a typical trade deadline where the team stays out of the big fish market.

You guys are obviously set up for back to back elite seasons, but it's shocking how against adding he seems to be.

The conference is wide open. Your division is incredibly weak. You'd arguably be the conference favourite if the playoffs started today, but with a few more additions You'd be a force to be reckoned with.

As an outsider has this been a thing for u guys for awhile? Always seem to have solid cores/rosters but never get the big fish or stack up.

 

[OSAttackFan88]

You guys are obviously set up for back to back elite seasons, but it's shocking how against adding he seems to be.

The conference is wide open. Your division is incredibly weak. You'd arguably be the conference favourite if the playoffs started today, but with a few more additions You'd be a force to be reckoned with.

As an outsider has this been a thing for u guys for awhile? Always seem to have solid cores/rosters but never get the big fish or stack up.

He never goes for the big fish, but who knows if a lot of them want to go to Owen Sound. Plus we really don’t have the draft picks available to get a big fish deal without having to take a younger or quality player back.

 

[DCruickshank]

Very glad he is out on the big marquee names...this market could not handle that. And I beleive with a tweek or two we will be right there, this year and next

 

[AttackBeacher]

You guys are obviously set up for back to back elite seasons, but it's shocking how against adding he seems to be.

The conference is wide open. Your division is incredibly weak. You'd arguably be the conference favourite if the playoffs started today, but with a few more additions You'd be a force to be reckoned with.

As an outsider has this been a thing for u guys for awhile? Always seem to have solid cores/rosters but never get the big fish or stack up.

Why make one big swing and leave the cubbords empty for the true 'go for it' year when you can make a few smart moves to improve this year and then make the big swing for next year.

 

[KFawcett]

Dean Letourneau has committed to Northeastern University so I guess we wait and see.

 

[Millpond]

You guys are obviously set up for back to back elite seasons, but it's shocking how against adding he seems to be.

The conference is wide open. Your division is incredibly weak. You'd arguably be the conference favourite if the playoffs started today, but with a few more additions You'd be a force to be reckoned with.

As an outsider has this been a thing for u guys for awhile? Always seem to have solid cores/rosters but never get the big fish or stack up.

Degray has been around the league a long time. I can tell you he doesn't read these message boards.

His philosophy has never changed.

He's developed some decent players here. Nick Suzuki being the latest. Jordan Binnington . Sean Durzi.

He's got 3 of the top 6 point getters in the league today, and none of the recent big splashes in the OHL trade market to date are ahead of them .

Degray has made 3 solid deals to date, a 19 yrold shut down dman, a near pt- a -game OA forward and recently a monster 17 yr old dman.

None of those deals made the front page of the Hockey News, but all great deals that didn't cost the team's future.

Team chemistry is huge for the Attack .So too is player development.

The team current has all 5 x 1st rd picks on their team .

I recall Sarnia has had some elite players on their team over the years, they haven't managed to parlay into a trip to the Memorial Cup.

 

[AttackSound]

You guys are obviously set up for back to back elite seasons, but it's shocking how against adding he seems to be.

The conference is wide open. Your division is incredibly weak. You'd arguably be the conference favourite if the playoffs started today, but with a few more additions You'd be a force to be reckoned with.

As an outsider has this been a thing for u guys for awhile? Always seem to have solid cores/rosters but never get the big fish or stack up.

In OS we have what we like to call the Golden Rule and our management never strays from that rule. Yes there are always those moves that could be made but the real question is always if it ain't broken why fix it? And the Attack have always stayed within the philosophy, like the standings don't lie here.

 

[StingUpdates]

Degray has been around the league a long time. I can tell you he doesn't read these message boards.

His philosophy has never changed.

He's developed some decent players here. Nick Suzuki being the latest. Jordan Binnington . Sean Durzi.

He's got 3 of the top 6 point getters in the league today, and none of the recent big splashes in the OHL trade market to date are ahead of them .

Degray has made 3 solid deals to date, a 19 yrold shut down dman, a near pt- a -game OA forward and recently a monster 17 yr old dman.

None of those deals made the front page of the Hockey News, but all great deals that didn't cost the team's future.

Team chemistry is huge for the Attack .So too is player development.

The team current has all 5 x 1st rd picks on their team .

I recall Sarnia has had some elite players on their team over the years, they haven't managed to parlay into a trip to the Memorial Cup.

I wasn't taking a shot. Just feels like many times yall have a good roster but go quiet near the deadline. No doubt he's built one helluva team. Your T6 is sweet.

As for Sarnia.. We are unmatched in our suckage come playoffs. It's quite something. We could've had McDavid & we still would've lost in the first two rounds. It's just what we do

GL the rest of the way.