Prospect Info: Owen Beck

Rapala

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I do not like his playmaking abilities.
He's also a puck-hog. I have question about his hockey sense.
He's skating around hey look at me mom! with the puck and dosen't develop play enough. Hesitant.

They should morph him dragon ball Z style with Mesar to create 1 excellent sure-fire top6 players.
Many of his weakness are Mesar strong-point somehow.
Exactly a month ago today. :dunno:
 

danisonfire

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I remember talking about what we hoped to see from Beck in the post season.
He obviously didn't put up Suzuki like numbers but he did play very much as expected over-all.

How I look at it is that Beck is a piece of the puzzle that we need. As one of the biggest Suzuki supporters here (He is a first line center, fight me);

Suzuki is not as physical as Beck. Suzuki wouldn't win 79+% of his faceoffs either. We will appreciate Beck for what he does well when the time comes. The faceoffs alone will increase our pick possession numbers even if he is on a lower line. It also can get you out of a dangerous defensive zone faceoffs in key moments. I don't expect him to ever get as many points as Suzuki. I am happy we have both. We really need both types of players to win.
 

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Here is a list of the Memorial Cup MVPs over the last 20 years ... recognize any names?

2000 - Brad Richards, Rimouski Océanic
2001 - Kyle Wanvig, Red Deer Rebels
2002 - Danny Groulx, Victoriaville Tigres
2003 - Derek Roy, Kitchener Rangers
2004 - Kelly Guard, Kelowna Rockets
2005 - Corey Perry, London Knights
2006 - Alexander Radulov, Quebec Remparts
2007 - Milan Lucic, Vancouver Giants
2008 - Dustin Tokarski, Spokane Chiefs
2009 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2010 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2011 - Jonathan Huberdeau, Saint John Sea Dogs
2012 - Michael Chaput, Shawinigan Cataractes
2013 - Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax Mooseheads
2014 - Edgars Kulda, Edmonton Oil Kings
2015 - Leon Draisaitl, Kelowna Rockets
2016 - Mitch Marner, London Knights
2017 - Dylan Strome, Erie Otters
2018 - Sam Steel, Regina Pats
2019 - Joël Teasdale, Rouyn-Noranda Huskies
2020 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2021 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2022 - William Dufour, Saint John Sea Dogs
2023 - James Malatesta, Quebec Remparts
2024 - Owen Beck, Saginaw Spirit
 
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Here is a list of the Memorial Cup MVPs over the last 20 years ... recognize any names?

2023 - Nathan Gaucher, Quebec Remparts
2022 - William Dufour, Saint John Sea Dogs
2021 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2020 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2019 - Ian Scott, Prince Albert Raiders
2018 - Alex D’Orio, Acadie-Bathurst Titan
2017 - Dylan Strome, Erie Otters
2016 - Mitch Marner, London Knights
2015 - Leon Draisaitl, Kelowna Rockets
2014 - Edgars Kulda, Edmonton Oil Kings
2013 - Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax Mooseheads
2012 - Michael Chaput, Shawinigan Cataractes
2011 - Jonathan Huberdeau, Saint John Sea Dogs
2010 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2009 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2008 - Dustin Tokarski, Spokane Chiefs
2007 - Taylor Pyatt, Vancouver Giants
2006 - Alexandre Vincent, Moncton Wildcats
2005 - Corey Perry, London Knights
2004 - Jeff Carter, Guelph Storm
2003 - Derek Roy, Kitchener Rangers
How could we not recognize Michael Chaput's name?
 

KevSkillz4

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I still think he’s a 3C in the NHL, but an indispensable one. Like Staal is for Carolina. The great shot is what’s going to open up offensive chances for him and he’s so good in all three zones and faceoffs.

Like in Penguins too. Jordan Staal type of impact in 3C for Habs, would be perfect with Suzuki and Dach top C's!
 
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Here is a list of the Memorial Cup MVPs over the last 20 years ... recognize any names?

2023 - Nathan Gaucher, Quebec Remparts
2022 - William Dufour, Saint John Sea Dogs
2021 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2020 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2019 - Ian Scott, Prince Albert Raiders
2018 - Alex D’Orio, Acadie-Bathurst Titan
2017 - Dylan Strome, Erie Otters
2016 - Mitch Marner, London Knights
2015 - Leon Draisaitl, Kelowna Rockets
2014 - Edgars Kulda, Edmonton Oil Kings
2013 - Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax Mooseheads
2012 - Michael Chaput, Shawinigan Cataractes
2011 - Jonathan Huberdeau, Saint John Sea Dogs
2010 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2009 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2008 - Dustin Tokarski, Spokane Chiefs
2007 - Taylor Pyatt, Vancouver Giants
2006 - Alexandre Vincent, Moncton Wildcats
2005 - Corey Perry, London Knights
2004 - Jeff Carter, Guelph Storm
2003 - Derek Roy, Kitchener Rangers

Really not bad list !
 

Bacchus1

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I asked ChatGPT to make the list, and of course, there were errors lol -- Alexandre Vincent ... never played for the Moncton Wildcats. Updated list, but possibly with errors!

2000 - Brad Richards, Rimouski Océanic
2001 - Kyle Wanvig, Red Deer Rebels
2002 - Danny Groulx, Victoriaville Tigres
2003 - Derek Roy, Kitchener Rangers
2004 - Kelly Guard, Kelowna Rockets
2005 - Corey Perry, London Knights
2006 - Alexander Radulov, Quebec Remparts
2007 - Milan Lucic, Vancouver Giants
2008 - Dustin Tokarski, Spokane Chiefs
2009 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2010 - Taylor Hall, Windsor Spitfires
2011 - Jonathan Huberdeau, Saint John Sea Dogs
2012 - Michael Chaput, Shawinigan Cataractes
2013 - Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax Mooseheads
2014 - Edgars Kulda, Edmonton Oil Kings
2015 - Leon Draisaitl, Kelowna Rockets
2016 - Mitch Marner, London Knights
2017 - Dylan Strome, Erie Otters
2018 - Sam Steel, Regina Pats
2019 - Joël Teasdale, Rouyn-Noranda Huskies
2020 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2021 - Not awarded (tournament canceled due to COVID-19)
2022 - William Dufour, Saint John Sea Dogs
2023 - James Malatesta, Quebec Remparts
2024 - Owen Beck, Saginaw Spirit

Anyway, many forwards who won went on to have good careers. Goalies are not predictable from this list, and short players who won don't necessarily go anywhere. But players of Beck's size seem to go on to have good careers. Take it for what it is worth.
 
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Rapala

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Hmm I was sure Suzuki was named MVP when they won the memorial cup..?
Suzuki was dominant the entire post season. Beck had his ups and his downs and was never supposed to dominate the score sheet.
His value was always going to be in the details. I watched his entire post season and usually it was his line setting the tone for Saginaw.
 
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Even if he's a Malhotra regen I'll take it.

Disappointing, but at least it'll solidify our 4th line for the next 10 years.
 

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Suzuki was dominant the entire post season. Beck had his ups and his downs and was never supposed to dominate the score sheet.
His value was always going to be in the details. I watched his entire post season and usually it was his line setting the tone for Saginaw.
Dominant is underselling it. 42 points is just stupid. Including a 3-0 series comeback against the Knights. In those 4 straight wins he had 11 points. Then it was followed by a 3-1 series comeback against Saginaw. 6 points in those 3 straight wins. It was the very definition of putting the team on his back.
 

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Snake Boisvert saying his ceiling is 4C😂

I would give equal shot at 2C and 4C with the higher odds of Beck becoming a solid 3C. He is a true type center who has great skating/size/weight to his game at an early age. Plays the game the right way and that should be well suited for when he turns pro next year. Probably needs 1 or 2 AHL seasons but time will tell.
 

Habs Halifax

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The thing with Owen Beck is that it's easy to say that he will be a 3rd or 4th liner only, but the truth is, he has the tools to be one hell of a hockey player....whatever line he plays on. I hate limiting this type of player.

Yup, could turn into a Bergeron type but then could be a 3C type (Poehling type with a brain haha). He does have potential and it all comes down to how obsessive he is to improve. His 1st pro season this year will tell us a lot.
 
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