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rik schau said:
Monahan was a win win, it was speculated and rumored that he would not play again and Montreal got a 1st round pick for taking on that contract that in the scenario he does not play, would be covered by insurance and Monahan then took a friendly deal to show himself and Montreal got another pick when he was moved.
They seem more interested in maximizing return on players with contracts than assembling a competitive roster. That is the impression I get from Molson & company, and who can blame them? As long as the are packing them in at the Bell center and raking it in, what's the incentive to make the team a cup contender? to do so, it will cost them more sooner but taking a more passive approach than proactive it saves them money. The priority from Molson & company is not about winning and contending, just ask any of the board of directors, surely there must be some here than know at least one or more, don't know how honest they would be though when answering. Professional PR and marketing and sales is their objectives. Winning a cup would be by happenstance.
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Bunch of conspiracy theory crap. Duh. Of course they want a cup.
 
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rik schau said:
Monahan was a win win, it was speculated and rumored that he would not play again and Montreal got a 1st round pick for taking on that contract that in the scenario he does not play, would be covered by insurance and Monahan then took a friendly deal to show himself and Montreal got another pick when he was moved.
They seem more interested in maximizing return on players with contracts than assembling a competitive roster. That is the impression I get from Molson & company, and who can blame them? As long as the are packing them in at the Bell center and raking it in, what's the incentive to make the team a cup contender? to do so, it will cost them more sooner but taking a more passive approach than proactive it saves them money. The priority from Molson & company is not about winning and contending, just ask any of the board of directors, surely there must be some here than know at least one or more, don't know how honest they would be though when answering. Professional PR and marketing and sales is their objectives. Winning a cup would be by happenstance.
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Just stop.....this type of thinking has caused enough problems throughout the history of our species.
 
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jaffy27 said:
Winning maximizes profits
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It actually doesn’t in todays sporting landscape depending on the brand + location - using the team for financial leverage / investing & building non core sports business growth does
 
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salbutera said:
It actually doesn’t in todays sporting landscape depending on the brand + location - using the team for financial leverage / investing & building non core sports business growth does
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That’s great….I can assure you now that everything being equal, a losing non playoff team that draws 12000 fans a game will be less profitable then the team that sells out and goes on deep playoff runs.

Winning with a solid core and depth in your farm will always be more valuable when selling.
 
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Habs Halifax said:
When evaluating Beck, we have to look at his 2 way game and points will not the sole factor to what he could potentially be as a center in the NHL when he reaches his prime.
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There’s no expectation on him anyway, besides filing our bottom 2 centerman. That’s all we need, we are looking elsewhere for our top 2 c’s. He’ll be an NHLer no doubt and that’s great.
 
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Gustave said:
There’s no expectation on him anyway, besides filing our bottom 2 centerman. That’s all we need, we are looking elsewhere for our top 2 c’s. He’ll be an NHLer no doubt and that’s great.
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Yeah, he looks like a 3C in the NHL to me. If he reaches 2C, that's a big surprise for me. It's not like it's devaluing him, it's just a reasonable expectation.

I do like his size/skating/IQ/2 way game.
 
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jaffy27 said:
That’s great….I can assure you now that everything being equal, a losing non playoff team that draws 12000 fans a game will be less profitable then the team that sells out and goes on deep playoff runs.

Winning with a solid core and depth in your farm will always be more valuable when selling.
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My only retort - what did Yotes win under their last owner exactly? They didn’t even have a pro sports arena to play in, let alone 12,000 attendance, yet the owner not only handsomely profited when selling the team to Utah but had incredible write offs for his ancillary businesses which profited heavily from investment brought about by leveraging Yotes as collateral (Sahara hotel in Vegas)

Pro sports has become a shell game, todays owners, especially w hedge fund types jumping in view the sports team as a holding company ..

Pro sports ownership has become a pure shell game
 
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Boss Man Hughes said:
They may want to win a Cup but for most owners it is secondary to maximizing profits.
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That was true in the late '90s. Ownership pushed the GMs to get rid of higher paid players and they somehow expected to keep winning. They trashed the team, and they haven't been able to get back to where they were before then.

It's hard to tell how deep the commitment goes but they've been making an effort the last few years.
 
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Boss Man Hughes said:
They may want to win a Cup but for most owners it is secondary to maximizing profits.
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How do you know? And a cup win for Habs could create huge profit. Brand. Time in po. Young fans catching on. Please spare me the they are happy with status quo theories. You know nothing but spout like you know everything.
 
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salbutera said:
It actually doesn’t in todays sporting landscape depending on the brand + location - using the team for financial leverage / investing & building non core sports business growth does
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Yawn. Really impressed. Not. Habs are not General Motors dude. Winning a cup might increase franchise value hugely. It is not a free market system.
 
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bsl said:
Yawn. Really impressed. Not. Habs are not General Motors dude. Winning a cup might increase franchise value hugely. It is not a free market system.
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Molson will realize minimum gains through a Cup winning team, but growing ancillary business led that can use Habs for tax write offs makes his business empire much more profitable
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Bust
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Beck played great in this one too bad Parehk and Lalonde weren't on. Jorian Donavon has been their best Dman by a long shot.
You just can't give London a two goal cushion out of the gates.
There is a reason they were the best defensive team in the league.
That Soo series is going to cost Saginaw in the end.
Losing Oke hurt them bad. Plus the high hit on Parehk who doesn't look that comfortable out there.
 
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